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South Dakota Indian Tribe Will Open Abortion Business if Ban Becomes Law
Lifenews.com ^ | March 23, 2006 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/23/2006 4:46:45 PM PST by sgent

Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- A South Dakota Indian tribe is throwing a monkey wrench into the state's plans to ban virtually all abortions in the state. Should the ban become law, one tribe says it will open up an abortion business on their tribal lands, which wouldn't be subjected to the abortion ban.

Cecilia Fire Thunder, president of the Oglala Sioux tribe of South Dakota, says Sioux nation sovereignty means the new ban doesn't apply. As a result, she said she will lead an effort to build a Planned Parenthood abortion center at the Pine Ridge Reservation.

“To me, it is now a question of sovereignty,” she told Tim Giago who runs a web site called Indianz.com.

“I will personally establish a Planned Parenthood clinic on my own land which is within the boundaries of the Pine Ridge Reservation where the State of South Dakota has absolutely no jurisdiction," Fire Thunder said.

A former nurse and health care worker, Fire Thunder is the first woman president of the Sioux nation.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; americanindian; americanindians; ban; cultofdeath; cultureofdeath; deadbabybingo; firethunder; lchaim; redcloud; rightolife; righttolife; sioux; southdakota; womanpresident
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1 posted on 03/23/2006 4:46:46 PM PST by sgent
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To: sgent

Ah, help the paleface kill hisself off.


2 posted on 03/23/2006 4:48:04 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: sgent

open up an abortion business on their tribal lands, which wouldn't be subjected to the abortion ban



custer, where are you....


3 posted on 03/23/2006 4:49:07 PM PST by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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To: sgent

Just stop patronizing their casinos. They'll get the message soon enough.


4 posted on 03/23/2006 4:49:52 PM PST by Ben Mugged (labor unions are socialism's shock troops)
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I wonder if they'll used Cherokee Hair Coathangers?


5 posted on 03/23/2006 4:49:56 PM PST by redlenses
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To: sgent

Do Indians actually need an abortion mill in their reservations? Is this a cruel joke?


6 posted on 03/23/2006 4:51:29 PM PST by daivid
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To: Ben Mugged

Yea, that'll be the day. Go tell Grandma not to play bingo because there's abortion clinic. ROFLMAO!!!


7 posted on 03/23/2006 4:53:36 PM PST by Hildy
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To: sgent

Time top stop all subsidies to thew tribes!


8 posted on 03/23/2006 4:54:01 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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I guess this is their version of Sharia law...


9 posted on 03/23/2006 4:54:10 PM PST by redlenses
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To: sgent

Interesting. Hadn't thought of this angle. But it really doesn't throw a monkey wrench into anything. If the Supreme Court were to overturn Roe v. Wade (considering the bench is doubtful) and the issue were to return to the states, theoretically there would be situtations much the same between states that kept abortion legal and those that didn't. You would have abortion clinics in those border cities as well.


10 posted on 03/23/2006 4:55:19 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Paulus Invictus

Krikee, mate, I'd say ditto, except I'm not sure what you said.


11 posted on 03/23/2006 4:56:53 PM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: sgent
There is presently a national unease brewing just below the surface over the whole notion of tribal sovereignty and Indian Casinos. This kind of crap could be its death knell.
12 posted on 03/23/2006 4:57:02 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: sgent

Predictable. If the courts hadn't gotten involved in this issue, we would have been a country where those people who feel disgust about abortion would have banned it and those people who feel comfortable about it would have legalized it. Americans were heading in this direction before Roe v. Wade. There is nothing in the Constitution that directly addresses the issue of abortion; therefore, it's an issue left to the states and the people. The people of South Dakota want to ban abortion. Good for them. The Lakota people want to support it. I won't say "good for them" but if that's the way they want to govern themselves, that's their business. The Lakota people are a soveriegn people living in the United States, anyway. Until there's an abortion amenedment in the Constitution, this is a local issue.


13 posted on 03/23/2006 4:59:04 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: Ben Mugged

Amen to that. Are these people crazy?


14 posted on 03/23/2006 4:59:06 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Hildy
Yea, that'll be the day. Go tell Grandma not to play bingo because there's abortion clinic. ROFLMAO!!!

It may be funny to you, but many grandmothers DO care about babies being slaughtered for the sake of sexual promiscuity.

15 posted on 03/23/2006 4:59:26 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: sgent

time to put all that territory back on the tax roll.


16 posted on 03/23/2006 4:59:58 PM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: Coleus

ping


17 posted on 03/23/2006 5:00:28 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: sgent; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; anniegetyourgun; applex; ..

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Just doing the job white European men won't do!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

18 posted on 03/23/2006 5:04:24 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Yea, but they won't give up BINGO for it. Believe me.


19 posted on 03/23/2006 5:05:27 PM PST by Hildy
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To: sgent

No problem, just set up a blockade of the roads leading into the Indian nation. Only residents could pass. I give it about 48 hours with empty casinos before the peace pipe was brought out for a round of huffing and puffing.


20 posted on 03/23/2006 5:05:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

'Scuse me, Mr. Noble Savage...exactly how does the willingness to murder babies in the womb fit in with that whole "worship the Great Spirit, one with the universe the great Earth Mother "thing?


21 posted on 03/23/2006 5:06:00 PM PST by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: 50sDad

You beat me to it . I thought Indians were in love with life.


22 posted on 03/23/2006 5:08:13 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: sgent

Now, why would they want to kill off their babies? (I know...white women would come, too, but I'm afraid that the majority of any clinic's vict...er, customers, would be Indian.)


23 posted on 03/23/2006 5:08:14 PM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: sgent

Abortion is not a choice among Native Americans.


24 posted on 03/23/2006 5:08:28 PM PST by joem15 (If less is more, then what is plenty?)
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To: 50sDad
A former nurse and health care worker, Fire Thunder is the first woman president of the Sioux nation.

Well, there's your problem.

25 posted on 03/23/2006 5:08:59 PM PST by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: sgent

I respect native Americans, but I wonder if the elders of ages past could have foreseen a 2006 in which the principal sources of revenue for NAs is gambling, trinkets and perhaps abortions. Some of this is paleface's fault, but it's still unsettling.


26 posted on 03/23/2006 5:10:23 PM PST by pogo101
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To: ElkGroveDan

Exactly. The notion of a nation within a nation is nothing but preservation of white guilt. Enough of it already.


27 posted on 03/23/2006 5:13:52 PM PST by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: 50sDad

It doesn't. Government Schools have fried these Indians brains.

My grandfather use to tell me, "Becareful around white people...they only think of themselves...and they kill like children. (He meant undisciplined, or for sport or fun.)

Oh...he was an Indian.


28 posted on 03/23/2006 5:15:31 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Hildy

You can find a local church 7 nights a week playing bingo.


29 posted on 03/23/2006 5:17:34 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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To: sgent
Anything or any way to murder unborn babies.
30 posted on 03/23/2006 5:17:35 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: sgtbono2002

They've been tainted by liberals at the BIF and Government Schools.


31 posted on 03/23/2006 5:18:21 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Integrityrocks
You really don't know anything about people who play Bingo. I live in Laughlin, NV....I'm an expert. Church Bingo is not like Casino bingo...

We'll see what happens. I suspect the few protests won't make a dent on the bottom line.

32 posted on 03/23/2006 5:19:25 PM PST by Hildy
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To: ElkGroveDan
There is presently a national unease brewing just below the surface over the whole notion of tribal sovereignty and Indian Casinos. This kind of crap could be its death knell.

I don't know much about that but would like to find out. There are reservations all over he!!. One here in downtown LV that you can buy smokes at. ??

At any rate, they may have their reservation to do this on but one has to get to the reservation.

I could project some quick - and very lengthy - maintenance work (total rebuild ?) on the roads connecting your reservation to our STATE. Total traffic disrutpion and all that. So sorry, price of progress, ya know?

33 posted on 03/23/2006 5:22:41 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: 50sDad

A former nurse and health care worker, Fire Thunder is the first woman president of the Sioux nation.
Well, there's your problem



amen...


34 posted on 03/23/2006 5:25:23 PM PST by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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To: 50sDad

Chiefettes.


35 posted on 03/23/2006 5:27:39 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: sgent

The indians rely on the state police to police there nations, Yet they don't believe they should follow a law like this. So let me get this straight...They could murder an outsider and then let the crime go unpunished if they choose to do so?


36 posted on 03/23/2006 5:27:51 PM PST by Revel
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To: sgent

I've long argued that it's time to abolish all indian reservations. The whole concept is so 19th Century.


37 posted on 03/23/2006 5:29:35 PM PST by Dog Gone
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They're a pale echo of the promises made by palefaces. Until the Injuns don't want them anymore, they'll be.


38 posted on 03/23/2006 5:30:45 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: sgent

The majority of America abortuaries are located in the inner city black community.

Not surprising, since the eugenicist Margaret Sanger, (Rudy Giuliani's hero, btw), made it clear that she wanted to do away with anyone with darker skin pigment than hers. Everything has very much gone according to her plan.

The Sioux are foolishly helping the people who will gladly finish off their tribe and people, given the opportunity.

If an abortuary ever went up on the reservation, the vast majority of the children butchered would be Sioux.


39 posted on 03/23/2006 5:30:50 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: sgent
A South Dakota Indian tribe is throwing a monkey wrench into the state's plans to ban virtually all abortions in the state. Should the ban become law, one tribe says it will open up an abortion business on their tribal lands, which wouldn't be subjected to the abortion ban.

Chaos Theory meets the Law of Unintended Consequences.

40 posted on 03/23/2006 5:35:48 PM PST by surely_you_jest
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To: The Red Zone

Probably so, but since a few Indian elite have figured out how to turn the rules into something which is not much different than organized crime, only "legal", the chances of them being eliminated are quite slim.

Casinos, cigarettes, and apparently now abortion clinics. Why they haven't done the whorehouse thing is beyond me. It's a natural.


41 posted on 03/23/2006 5:40:04 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

I recall reading a post on a liberal blog before this law was passed, lamenting the fact there was only one clinic still functioning in S. Dakota. This was considered a great imposition in that a majority of its patients came from the Pine Ridge reservation, and the poor ladies had to go to great trouble to arrange transportation most way across the state. Seems abortion, due to a number of factors, is commonly used as back-up birth control by the impoverished Indian, well, I don't guess Maidens would be quite the correct term, would it?

All makes a strange sort of sense. Personally, I think the state moved one Justice too soon. Time will tell.


42 posted on 03/23/2006 5:46:09 PM PST by barkeep
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To: barkeep

It depends on how quickly the suit(s) regarding the S. Dakota law move through the legal system. It's quite unlikely to be a Supreme Court case before 2008.


43 posted on 03/23/2006 5:53:23 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: sgent

Moving on up from scalping.


44 posted on 03/23/2006 6:11:06 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: ElkGroveDan
There is presently a national unease brewing just below the surface over the whole notion of tribal sovereignty and Indian Casinos. This kind of crap could be its death knell.

My personal view is that "Native Americans" should have to choose. Either they are American citizens or are part of a seperate Nation on a Reservation. If seperate, then they should go back to "wampum" and set an US exchange rate and be subject to visas..

45 posted on 03/23/2006 6:13:32 PM PST by glowworm ( Liberal thot is truly a mental condition...)
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No problem, just set up a blockade of the roads leading into the Indian nation.

Individual states have the power to ban travel to foreign nations by US citizens? When did they get this?

46 posted on 03/23/2006 6:17:53 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: sgtbono2002
I thought Indians were in love with life.

They are in love with heap wampum.

47 posted on 03/23/2006 6:21:11 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Ben Mugged
Just stop patronizing their casinos.

ROTF! A legitimate BOMB threat couldn't pry those old bats away from their slot machines.

48 posted on 03/23/2006 6:21:24 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: Ben Mugged

If they open up an abortion clinic on the reservation, you know its not going to be white girls from Sioux Falls going there..... They don't put these places in the nice neighborhoods for a reason.


49 posted on 03/23/2006 6:41:11 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: sgent

Come one, come all for the killings!


50 posted on 03/23/2006 6:43:58 PM PST by B4Ranch (What has an alimentary canal, a big appetite at one end & no sense of responsibility at the other.)
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