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Hillary: GOP (Immigration) Bill Criminalizes Jesus
WND ^ | March 23, 2006

Posted on 03/23/2006 5:12:33 PM PST by glad2bdad

Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton invoked Jesus to argue against a House immigration bill that would make illegal presence in the United States a felony.

"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures," Clinton said, according to the Associated Press, "because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself."

Clinton delivered her remarks as the Senate prepared to take up a version of the measure, which passed the House in December.

Unlawful presence in the U.S. currently is a civil offense.

Flanked by New York immigration activists, Clinton called the bill "mean-spirited" and inconsistent with Republicans' professed support for faith and values, the AP said.

Clinton said she hoped the Senate Judiciary Committee would come up with a compromise that would remove the House's severe penalties.

The New York senator said, however, she would back legislation to strengthen U.S. borders and seek more cooperation with Mexico and other neighboring countries.

She also wants to establish a way for the nation's approximately 11 million illegal immigrants to gain citizenship.

While recognizing the distress illegal immigration causes border communities, Clinton insisted Republicans are taking a great political risk in pushing the House bill forward.

"We want the outcome to be that they're on the wrong side of the politics as well as the wrong side of history and American values," she said.

As WorldNetDaily reported, a bill that would give millions of illegal aliens in the United States the opportunity to earn citizenship advanced last week when members of the Senate Judiciary Committee signaled likely passage of a proposal by Sens. Edward Kenney, D-Mass., and John McCain, R-Ariz.

Though a committee vote will not be held until after a week-long congressional recess, likely March 27, committee members appeared ready to back the Kennedy-McCain bill.


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KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; andyouknowwhatimean; gratuitousreligion; hillary; plantationlife
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Hillary speaks for Jesus?
1 posted on 03/23/2006 5:12:34 PM PST by glad2bdad
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To: glad2bdad

Would Jesus come here illegaly?


2 posted on 03/23/2006 5:13:48 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: glad2bdad

I think it's a sign of the rubbish to come.


3 posted on 03/23/2006 5:13:59 PM PST by Bangupjob
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To: glad2bdad

Forgive me, but I don't believe Hilary Clinton knows Jesus.


4 posted on 03/23/2006 5:14:44 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: glad2bdad

I'm glad she uses incoherent rhetoric. It will help us in two years when we will be exposing Democrats as fractured and incapable of rational leadership.


5 posted on 03/23/2006 5:15:14 PM PST by TeenagedConservative
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To: glad2bdad

Wait. The big question is here:

How can she say this:
It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures

Without the ACLU calling for her head, because she invoked religion? And since when, according to the left, does religion become an ok thing in gov't????


6 posted on 03/23/2006 5:15:32 PM PST by DTwistedSisterS
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To: glad2bdad

Excellent campaign fodder . Thanks Hitlary , we will be sure to use it in a campaign ad against you ...LOL !


7 posted on 03/23/2006 5:15:49 PM PST by FRONTLINER ( Out with the RINO's , Defeat Mike DeWhine in the primary ! Libby THE LIBERAL Dole is inept !)
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To: glad2bdad

LOL! What Spin! Holy Crap!


8 posted on 03/23/2006 5:16:18 PM PST by cmsgop ( I love Scotch. Scotchy, scotch, scotch)
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To: OldFriend

the only Jesus she knows is pronounced - "Hay-Seuss"


9 posted on 03/23/2006 5:18:39 PM PST by jsk10
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To: glad2bdad
Something about rendering on to Ceaser comes to mind but then I recall that Jesus will always be welcomed in America. Well from just about everyone except by those in the DNC, the UN, Mosques, Abortion Clincs, ACLU, Scientologists...Etc.


10 posted on 03/23/2006 5:18:51 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: glad2bdad

I wonder if Hillary has ever heard of the term, "Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's."

One meaning of that phrase is that people should not rebel against their government. If that government is at all reasonable, and I think it's clear the Roman Empire wasn't always, Jesus was saying that people should still respect it where they could.

Do illegal immigrants respect the laws of our nation? Do they render unto Caesar that which is Ceasar's? As a matter of fact they steal as much as they can off Caesar.

Hillary, don't quit your day job. On second thought, please do!


11 posted on 03/23/2006 5:19:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: glad2bdad

she's running for president on a 'secure the borders' platform... of course it is unlikely she will consider actually doing it if she is elected but she will run on this platform, mark my words.


12 posted on 03/23/2006 5:19:24 PM PST by Palpatine (Every single liberal is now an enemy of the republic!)
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To: glad2bdad

Hillary Clinton's way of honoring Jesus is to fund partial-birth abortions, oppose faith-based organizations which help damaged people to get their lives on track, evade taxes, hire private investigators to bully & blackmail her political enemies, and lie about everything.


13 posted on 03/23/2006 5:19:39 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: glad2bdad

Here, and she thought that Bible was just for putting on top of that stack of FBI files to keep them pressed nice and neat.


14 posted on 03/23/2006 5:19:46 PM PST by digger48
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To: glad2bdad
She also wants to establish a way for the nation's approximately 11 million illegal immigrants to gain citizenship.

The difference between what Bush proposed and Hillary proposed is significant. Whereas Bush's proposal was to legitimize the presence of illegals already present in the United States, but restrict their ability to upgrade their status to seek citizenship, Hillary's proposal is to bypass "Go" and go straight to citizenship.

Yes, there are problems with what Bush proposed, but those problems are a matter of cost. It would cost an immense amount to round up illegals, detain them, and then deport them to their countries of origin. The attempt would create a huge underground railroad of illegals avoiding Immigration agents, paying exorbitant fees to professionals who will hide them, feeding organized crime and possibly creating a market for Islamic extremist ideology among the illegals.

The best method of dealing with the illegals is to give them work visas without the possibility of naturalization unless they return to their country of origin and apply for a visa through normal channels. Of course, this only works if the borders are closed and a time limit is imposed after which illegals found in country will be deported. The solution to illegal immigration has to be comprehensive, with an eye on the consequences of every step. Hillary's solution is nothing more than an attempt to create a voter base of non-english speaking, poor, welfare cases.

15 posted on 03/23/2006 5:21:45 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: glad2bdad

I think she borrowed the Book of Job from Howard.


16 posted on 03/23/2006 5:22:27 PM PST by Hamrag Yatlerot
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To: OldFriend

"Forgive me, but I don't believe Hilary Clinton knows Jesus."

Hillary needs to know that Jesus is going to tell her, "Depart from me I never knew you."


17 posted on 03/23/2006 5:23:42 PM PST by mothball
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To: glad2bdad

"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures, ...."


That is your first problem, Hildebeast. You don't understand the Scriptures.


18 posted on 03/23/2006 5:26:04 PM PST by Cecily
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To: glad2bdad
She also wants to establish a way for the nation's approximately 11 million illegal immigrants to gain citizenship.

No brainer. All they have to do for citizenship is to go back to Mexico and be good citizens.

19 posted on 03/23/2006 5:26:41 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: pcottraux

If he pronounces it "Hay-zoos".


20 posted on 03/23/2006 5:27:04 PM PST by kenth
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To: coconutt2000

21 posted on 03/23/2006 5:27:32 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: glad2bdad

If Senator Rick Santorum made the same comment as Hillary Clinton, He would be villified in the Press


22 posted on 03/23/2006 5:28:21 PM PST by petkus
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To: glad2bdad
Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton invoked Jesus

Ooops...there goes another 10% of her base.

23 posted on 03/23/2006 5:30:14 PM PST by Eagleami (Israeli Hero - Moses Hess - Communist Manifesto)
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To: glad2bdad

Gee, Hilary, which is it? Be tough on homeland defense or wink at open borders? I know, you'll try to take both positions.

Lucky for her, you probably can fool most of the people most of the time.


24 posted on 03/23/2006 5:31:41 PM PST by rbg81
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To: VU4G10

"The True Face of Her Heinous".


25 posted on 03/23/2006 5:31:47 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: glad2bdad

Well, Jesus would already be in jail for turning water into wine without some sort of license, so...


26 posted on 03/23/2006 5:31:49 PM PST by wizardoz
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To: OldFriend
Forgive me, but I don't believe Hilary Clinton knows Jesus

If you saw her giving this speach, she looked VERY uncomfortable even saying the name Jesus. Perhaps she wasn't sure how to pronounce it since it's probably the first time that word ever crossed those wrinkled lips.

27 posted on 03/23/2006 5:31:59 PM PST by SMM48
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To: glad2bdad
Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton invoked Jesus...

They really do have no limits to their shame, do they?

Unbelievable.

When I read that statement, the mental image was the priest on Caddy Shack getting the ultimate zot.

"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures,"

Just stop, please. This is really embarassing.

28 posted on 03/23/2006 5:32:21 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: glad2bdad

Maybe Hillary should actually take some time to read the bible, instead of mis-quoting from it.



(Taken from Luke 2:1-21)

And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.

(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)

And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judæa, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David).



Joseph and Mary were NOT illegal immigrants, they were following the laws of thier king. They went where they were commanded to go, to pay their taxes. How Hillary can equate this with illegally entering a country is beyond me.


29 posted on 03/23/2006 5:41:08 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: glad2bdad

With the nuts that are in her camp I thought they would want to criminalize Jesus.


30 posted on 03/23/2006 5:43:51 PM PST by takeemout (God Bless Jesse Helms!)
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To: takeemout

They have, in a way. All those challenges to public Nativity scenes, public prayers, Bible studies after school on school grounds, and the Ten Commandments displayed in government buildings. All courtesy of the Red Queen's base of support. How could we also forget the obscene and inappropriate ornaments the Hildebeast allowed on the White House Christmas tree? I'll bet the blasphemous shrew snickered about that every time she looked at them.


31 posted on 03/23/2006 5:49:36 PM PST by Cecily
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To: OldFriend
How many sides of the immigration bill are there cause hill will be on each and every side and some that haven't even been thought about yet!
Tri-angulation has morphed into multi-angulation. What BS. She is still bubba lite, no matter how hard she tries.
32 posted on 03/23/2006 5:51:37 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: takeemout
“Hillary knows that we must take politics out of this decision,” said her campaign spokesman, echoing President Clinton’s position. “Elian’s future should be determined as quickly as possible through the appropriate, ongoing legal process.” The Immigration and Naturalization Service has ruled that Elian belongs with his Cuban father.

Once again, wet your finger, hold it up to the air, ....
33 posted on 03/23/2006 5:51:41 PM PST by Hamrag Yatlerot
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To: glad2bdad
Galilee, Judea, Egypt, Samaria, and all the rest were PROVINCES, or at the very most, vassal states of Rome.

It is no different for Jesus to wander among them at will, than for any American to visit various states & Puerto Rico, or American Samoa without a passport.
34 posted on 03/23/2006 5:53:38 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: glad2bdad

The last time I saw a picture of her in church, she was sleeping next to X-42 at President Reagan's funeral.


35 posted on 03/23/2006 5:55:00 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Don't mess with Texas.)
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To: glad2bdad

Hillary is crazy. No question about it.


36 posted on 03/23/2006 5:57:42 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: wizardoz

Actually, Jesus could probably get away with making wine out of water. He just better not ship it across state lines or else....ATF comes knocking on His door.


37 posted on 03/23/2006 5:59:31 PM PST by bushbuddy
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To: glad2bdad

Looks like Hillary doesn't believe in Separation of Church and State.

What is she trying to do, turn America into a THEOCRACY?


38 posted on 03/23/2006 6:16:59 PM PST by GeorgiaYankee
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To: glad2bdad

Jesus broke customs and laws, and preached charity. So does that mean Christians or good Samaritans should help or advocate the illegal immigrant break laws ?

Well, consider Jesus didn't’t break laws to hurt people; he broke laws to help people, it was the intent of the laws Jesus was opposed to, such as being able to work on the Sabbath to help someone in need.

Illegal immigrants steal and rob civil infrastructure from the legal citizens. Illegal immigrants cut in line in front of legal migrants. So helping illegal immigrants may seem charitable but it actually hurts others. Therefore allowing illegal immigrants break immigration laws and employers break labor laws isn’t the same at all as Jesus breaking the Sabbath to be charitable to someone in need, since others are harmed when these laws are broken.

Would Jesus be in favor of harming US citizens, making them loose their Job's, hospitals, schools and higher insurance and taxes and most specifically law and order or would he be in favor of chaos and anarchy, gangs and undocumented terrorists on the loose preying on innocent people?

Furthermore, consider God is a god of justice, and order, but the chaos created by the lawlessness of plagiarizing the labor of illegal immigration at slave wages, is that truly godly?

Finally take the concept of being forgiven, Jesus didn’t just forgive anybody, he only forgave those who repented. Likewise, giving amnesty to those who have attempted to steal civil infrastructure that doesn't belong to them, by immigrating without invitation and not admitting their sin or acting remorse, or agreeing to assimilate by following the order and customs of the majority of the of people who would offer citizenship and forgiveness if they did apply and ask legitimately is not in accordance with Christian teachings, of repentance.

Therefore it just plain rhetoric to call for Christian charity to be ahead of the rule of law in a country where laws are based upon Judeo-Christian principles. We first have to recognize the sovereignty of God, and the sovereignty of Judeo-Christian principles before we can ask for his fruits.


39 posted on 03/23/2006 6:19:04 PM PST by seastay
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To: Uncle Hal
The ironic thing about Hillary is that by election time she will have taken so many positions on so many issues that no one will know where she stands. But she will be able to claim that she stands on every side of every issue all the time, major BS. In the end it won't do her any good because she does not have the BS charisma that bubba had. She can only turn on so many chicks. Bubba had a line of sh!t that would not quit.
40 posted on 03/23/2006 6:19:28 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: DTwistedSisterS

Her hypocracy knows no bounds. I honestly don't know how anyone in the room could have kept a straight face.


41 posted on 03/23/2006 6:25:22 PM PST by SueRae
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To: glad2bdad
The subtle message here, perhaps even beyond Hillary's consciousness, denies Christ's divinity. In her reference to Jesus, she attempts to subordinate Him to her political dialectic. He can never be refused entrance anywhere. Everything is His.
42 posted on 03/23/2006 6:29:06 PM PST by glad2bdad (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last. (Churchill))
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To: glad2bdad
"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures," Clinton said

Oh-oh, here comes the lightning round!

43 posted on 03/23/2006 6:34:16 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: rodguy911
Was just channel surfing. Basketball, hockey, ice skating, and then found my way to H&C......there was Newt praising Hilary for her mention of Jesus.

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH

Quickly went back to watching LSU beat Duke!

44 posted on 03/23/2006 6:44:58 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: SMM48

I watched a clip on TV and she seemed quite comfortable until she came to the part where she had to mention scriptures, and you're right, she was experiencing a throat closing up moment when it came to mentioning Jesus.


45 posted on 03/23/2006 6:46:14 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: glad2bdad

Hillary thinks that Jesus was an illegal immigrant?


46 posted on 03/23/2006 6:51:02 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: FRONTLINER

Right on target.

Hillary just provided a huge and fertile pile for upcoming late night talk shows and election campaigns.


47 posted on 03/23/2006 6:51:43 PM PST by lsjogren
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To: glad2bdad

Hmmmm. I have to wonder if shrillairy ever found herself in the presence of Jesus, if she would scream at him like she screamed at Dick Morris, or if she would just burst into flames...


48 posted on 03/23/2006 6:54:06 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Rage is the fuel that powers the islamic machine)
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To: glad2bdad

She obviously doesn't know Him at all. Jesus would never break the law in the first place. He would have come here legally!


49 posted on 03/23/2006 6:57:24 PM PST by WeddingPlanner
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To: OldFriend

Newt was being sarcastic and mentioned that Hellary was a member of the Christian bashing Democrat Party


50 posted on 03/23/2006 6:58:37 PM PST by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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