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Thousands line Phoenix street in protest march (immigration bill)
WIS TV ^ | 3/24/06 | Chantelle Janelle

Posted on 03/24/2006 3:25:57 PM PST by Libloather

Thousands line Phoenix street in protest march


Thousands of supporters of immigrant rights march to the office of U.S. Sen. Jon Kyl in Phoenix. Many said they were most incensed by what they see as punitive immigration reform proposals, especially one approved by the House in December that would make unlawful presence in the United States a felony.

(Phoenix, Arizona-AP) March 24, 2006 - One of the protesters in a big march in Phoenix says immigrants are "here for the American Dream."

Police estimate at least 10,000 people joined the rally calling for more "humane" changes to immigration laws.

A 50-year-old resident of the city says the punitive measures being eyed on Capitol Hill are "racist." He says, "You're not going to find terrorists outside a Home Depot looking for a job."

The protesters marched to US Senator Jon Kyl's office. He's sponsoring an immigration bill.

In Georgia, activists say thousands of workers took part in a work stoppage Friday to protest a measure passed by the state House Thursday.

It would deny state services to illegal immigrants and impose charges on their wire money transfers.

About 200 protesters gathered on the steps of the Georgia Capitol. Some had Mexican flags and others carried signs reading: "Don't panic, we're Hispanic."


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"Don't panic, we're Hispanic."

I like - 'Report & Deport'...

1 posted on 03/24/2006 3:26:01 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
"Thousands line Phoenix street in protest march"

...RINOs everywhere in positions of power are listening.

2 posted on 03/24/2006 3:30:54 PM PST by lormand (...the wrong person came out of the water that fateful night in Chappaquiddick)
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To: Libloather

Did you expect ZERO backlash against legislation cracking down on illegal immigrants? The following provision in HR 4437 is what has me most concerned re: criminalizing charity work done by Churches:

". . . assists, encourages, directs, or induces a person to reside in or remain in the United States, or to attempt to reside in or remain in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such person is an alien who lacks lawful authority to reside in or remain in the United States;"

Do you think that could never be applied to serving illegal aliens in a soup kitchen?


3 posted on 03/24/2006 3:32:21 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Libloather
A 50-year-old resident of the city says the punitive measures being eyed on Capitol Hill are "racist." He says, "You're not going to find terrorists outside a Home Depot looking for a job."

Hmmm? Sounds like a general contractor afraid his minimum wage help is going to disappear.

4 posted on 03/24/2006 3:33:10 PM PST by rocksblues (John McCain says adopt a terrorist today!)
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To: clawrence3

Some churches now have an underground railroad going to help illegals get established. Should that be overlooked also?


5 posted on 03/24/2006 3:34:10 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Libloather
"You're not going to find terrorists outside a Home Depot looking for a job."

No, but you may find them inside a crowded stadium setting off a bomb, or releasing ricin on a subway car. When Juan and Mohammed both sneak across the border, how do we know who is who?

Of course, this all begs the question: "What part of 'illegal' don't you understand?" "Rights for illegals" is oxymoronic as well as just plain moronic.

6 posted on 03/24/2006 3:35:55 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

They should not be "harboring" criminals. One hot meal, or a roof over their head for one night, is not "harboring" though.


7 posted on 03/24/2006 3:36:06 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Actually, the U.S. Constitution contains many "rights" whether you are a citizen or not.


8 posted on 03/24/2006 3:36:59 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Libloather

It sure would be nice if the immigration boys would get together with the cops and load these mobs onto buses and take them back to Mexico.


9 posted on 03/24/2006 3:37:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Sacrificing unity and national identity for "diversity" and "multiculturalism" is a really dumb idea)
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To: clawrence3

And you are the only one to realize this?

These rallys are part of Hillary's election campaign in 08.


10 posted on 03/24/2006 3:37:53 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Libloather

The March of the Criminals. Great...


11 posted on 03/24/2006 3:39:29 PM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Did you read the proposed law (HR 4437) above? That seriously could be used against legitimate charities, and as soon as Priests start getting arrested for that, where do you think Hillary has positioned herself?


12 posted on 03/24/2006 3:41:27 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Tarantulas

Some of those marching are U.S. citizens - can U.S. citizens no longer protest either?!


13 posted on 03/24/2006 3:42:15 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Actually, the U.S. Constitution contains many "rights" whether you are a citizen or not.

Sure, like the right to not be murdered. It doesn't include the right to work at Home Depot or the right to get a driver's license.

14 posted on 03/24/2006 3:42:59 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: clawrence3

These churches need busting and quick. They are the same ones whipping up the dumbasses against the War and the President.
The sooner these phony Christian are exposed as criminal assessories the better.


15 posted on 03/24/2006 3:43:14 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: clawrence3
Actually, the U.S. Constitution contains many "rights" whether you are a citizen or not.

And there are specific laws governing how one goes about becoming a citizen.

And more laws that state if you don't have the proper documentation to be here.........

You are in this country illegally.

You have committed a crime.

16 posted on 03/24/2006 3:46:35 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Just to be clear, if all a Church does is operate a soup kitchen and offer Holy Communion to illegal aliens, they need to be "busted and quick"?


17 posted on 03/24/2006 3:46:53 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Some of those marching are U.S. citizens - can U.S. citizens no longer protest either?!

NO ONE said they couldn't protest. Gawd, you are a broken record.

Did you know it's against the law in Mexico for ANY foreigner to protest? What do you think about that?

18 posted on 03/24/2006 3:48:06 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: LasVegasMac

Well, the "crime" is entering the United States other than a at emarkation / debarkation point and not submitting to inspection within 48 hours. Short of HR 4437, being in the country "illegally" is simply a civil offense. I am an American citizen - what "proper documentation" am I supposed to have? What's next, your own little KGB?


19 posted on 03/24/2006 3:49:52 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
The constitution was written before 20 million illegal criminals sneaked over the borders and forgot to assimilate and pledge allegiance to the American way of life.
20 posted on 03/24/2006 3:51:05 PM PST by garyhope (Simplicity is best in everything)
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To: clawrence3
Actually, the U.S. Constitution contains many "rights" whether you are a citizen or not.

forgot....sure they have rights.

The Right to be arrested, detained and deported.

That's 3 rights, right?

What part of illegal - criminal can't you grasp?

21 posted on 03/24/2006 3:51:52 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: clawrence3

There are "rights" and there are "responsibilities" WITH those rights.......Responsibilities include LEGALLY entering the U.S......


22 posted on 03/24/2006 3:52:00 PM PST by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: Libloather
"You're not going to find terrorists outside a Home Depot looking for a job."

Correct; what you will find is criminals that sneak across the border, and if a common criminal can do it, so can a terrorist.

23 posted on 03/24/2006 3:52:46 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Actually, Tarantulas posted on 03/24/2006 3:39:29 PM PST:

"The March of the Criminals. Great..."

To answer your question, though, I do know about that that law. It is a bad law, but ultimately irrelevant to this discussion. For instance, Afghanistan has a law prohibiting a Muslim from converting to Christianity - do you want to adopt that one as well?
24 posted on 03/24/2006 3:52:48 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

That is not the object of this legislation and you know it.
Transitory and incidental actions are completely different than the organized, admitted, brazen defying of Law by Illegals advocates operating the Sanctuary Programs.

Why are you pretending the object is something else?


25 posted on 03/24/2006 3:53:24 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: goodnesswins

True - now, do you want to criminalize Priests offering "hot meals" to illegal aliens? See HR 4437 (the entire reason for this protest).


26 posted on 03/24/2006 3:54:31 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Libloather

Where are the cluster bombs when you need them?


27 posted on 03/24/2006 3:54:45 PM PST by garyhope (Simplicity is best in everything)
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To: clawrence3
Actually, the U.S. Constitution contains many "rights" whether you are a citizen or not.

And the Supreme Court has ruled they have less rights then Citizens and they damn sure have the right not to be here.

28 posted on 03/24/2006 3:54:54 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

We have plenty of people here at FR who would not mind that being the object of said legislation, so that's why I am dealing with it (not pretending about anything).


29 posted on 03/24/2006 3:55:26 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
now, do you want to criminalize Priests offering "hot meals" to illegal aliens?

Yes.

30 posted on 03/24/2006 3:55:35 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: LasVegasMac; Marine Inspector

Did you know they have First Amendment rights?


31 posted on 03/24/2006 3:56:18 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Marine Inspector

Well, you see - we disagree on that. How about Holy Communion offered to an illegal alien at a church - should Priests be arrested for that?


32 posted on 03/24/2006 3:57:14 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
What's next, your own little KGB?

I don't need anything like KGB.

I need for my government to enforce the existing rules.

Black and white pal.

You are here legelly or you are a criminal.

Get real.

33 posted on 03/24/2006 3:57:20 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: clawrence3

Did you know they have the right to be arrested?


34 posted on 03/24/2006 3:57:27 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: clawrence3

Bring your straw man up to them then. Though I note you are trotting it out to other related threads as if you believe it demonstrates some kind of insight.


35 posted on 03/24/2006 3:57:33 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: garyhope

Yeah - it was also written before moderan-day cluster bombs - thanks for the reminder.


36 posted on 03/24/2006 3:58:22 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
How about Holy Communion offered to an illegal alien at a church - should Priests be arrested for that?

Nope.

37 posted on 03/24/2006 3:58:36 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: clawrence3

"Do you think that could never be applied to serving illegal aliens in a soup kitchen?"

Interesting idea. I doubt that was intended but maybe could read that way. You should ask the Church should lobby to ameliorate and clarify those provisions.

I suspect they'll attack the bill as a whole because they're not so much concerned about soup kitchens but coffers.


38 posted on 03/24/2006 3:58:52 PM PST by Shermy
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To: LasVegasMac

cl3 is an admitted traitor who wants to soothe his liberal conscience with your wallet.

He condones and SUPPORTS those who aid and abet these criminal invaders.


39 posted on 03/24/2006 3:59:04 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Diplomacy is what you do after you kick the enemy's ass and define their lives afterward)
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To: Marine Inspector

Well, I'm glad you draw the line somewhere - others here at FR would disagree with you - that's why I'm posting to make sure you guys realize what HR 4437 would result in.


40 posted on 03/24/2006 3:59:57 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Shermy

You're wasting your time arguing with the tiny squeaking minority.


41 posted on 03/24/2006 4:00:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: freedumb2003

Not at all - I don't want Priests arrested at soup kitchens though - Hillary's campaign would eat that up (pardon the pun).


42 posted on 03/24/2006 4:00:58 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
I'm in complete support of HR 4437; and it will never criminalize communion at church.
43 posted on 03/24/2006 4:01:41 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Shermy

My concern is the legitimate charity work, not coffers.


44 posted on 03/24/2006 4:01:46 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Do you think that could never be applied to serving illegal aliens in a soup kitchen?
45 posted on 03/24/2006 4:02:11 PM PST by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Libloather

5,900,000 residents stayed home.


46 posted on 03/24/2006 4:02:20 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Marine Inspector

You "guarantee" that? Perhaps you have not read the "cluster-bomd" vitriol here lately?


47 posted on 03/24/2006 4:02:33 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law..."
48 posted on 03/24/2006 4:02:39 PM PST by clyde asbury (apolitical skeptic)
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To: itsahoot

Did you have an answer to my question?


49 posted on 03/24/2006 4:03:10 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Did you know they have First Amendment rights?

Did you know they have entered this country illegally?

Did you know they are bringing a health hazard into this country?

Did you know they are backrupting state coffers for health care that they do not deserve nor qualify for.

Did you know that they are sucking federal relief programs dry?

Did you know that their children are over-taxing the school systems?

50 posted on 03/24/2006 4:03:33 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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