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Posted on 03/24/2006 9:29:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge
A federal appeals court on Friday ordered a temporary halt to logging in two sections of the Eldorado National Forest east of Sacramento that were damaged by wildfires in 2004.
A lower court in August denied a request by two environmental organizations to immediately end the logging, but the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the Earth Island Institute and the Center for Biological Diversity are likely to eventually win their lawsuit.
Allowing logging to continue could cause too much damage to the forests while the lawsuit proceeds, the San Francisco-based appeals court ruled.
Many of the trees killed in the fires already have been cut by the contractor, Sierra Pacific Industries, U.S. Forest Service spokesman Matt Mathes said.
"The purpose of removing the trees is to help finance our restoration of that area to its previous condition because waiting for nature would take hundreds of years, and the public likes to see green forests as soon as possible," he said Friday in response to the ruling.
"The trees do lose their value rapidly once they've been killed by the fire because they're just standing there rotting."
The environmental groups claim in their lawsuit that the Forest Service used poor science to determine which trees died or are dying because of the fires and failed to compensate for the logging's impact on the California spotted owl.
The Fred fire burned 7,700 acres in El Dorado County north of Highway 50, in the northern part of the forest between Ice House Reservoir and Kyburz. The Power fire burned nearly 17,000 acres east of Pioneer, between Bear River Reservoir and Salt Springs Reservoir near Highway 88.
We have too many lawyers and judges with little to no scientific knowledge making too many scientific decisions.
Biological decisions should be made by the forest service experts with life long experiences in the forests and with graduate degrees in forestery.
They may not be perfect, but the foresters will make better scientific decisions than the lawyers.
Did we ever work together? If I had a dollar for every time I have heard your words. Unfortunately, a forester or biologist always takes a backseat in a room full of enviro and agency lawyers. And like a child in a heated divorce, the species takes a backseat to all.
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Hey! I've got my house, like most environmentalists. Who cares if you get yours! Scarcity will make my property value increase. To hell with everyone else! I say yes to the spotted owls and my profits. Up with environmentalism; its the selfish thing to do!
The environmental groups claim in their lawsuit that the Forest Service used poor science to determine which trees died or are dying because of the fires and failed to compensate for the logging's impact on the California spotted owl.
SHOOT THE DAMN SPOTTED OWLS!!!!!!!!!!
The good ole' spotted owl issue again. One of the most popular sweatshirts in Humboldt County has a picture of a logger on it, and the words "endangered species".
These massive wild fires are amazing.
The lawyers get paid on wining cases, not on really protecting the wildlife nor the environment. One should ignore their slick talk....IMHO.
The air pollution during the massive fires can be a health problem for many folks. Airplanes often must divert for safety and operational reasons.
The water pollution after the fires can kill the fish and other organism. The ash makes the water look and taste bad, at a minimum.
The soil and the organic life can baked to death.
People do sometimes die, lose their homes, lose their jobs, pets, vehicles...
These massive fires contribute to "global warming..."
The insect killed trees could have helped provide jobs, homes, businesses, another source of cheap, renewable energy...
That the old media buys into the above as natural and good for the planet...shows either their ignorance and/or being a shill for "bad people."
Well of course they do, they are bureaucrats. Good government employees don't rock the boat.
BTTT
LOL.
That picture is worth a thousand words.
I have a picture of the Barkhouse burn on the Klamath NF. The enviros threatened to sue until the Ranger took trees out of the salvage harvest that the enviros considered had not been damaged by the fires. Most were in riparian areas.
Now the areas are recovering - except for the riparian areas with dead trees. Now future fire has a conduit right through the forest and up the mountain.
I can't tell you how misinformed and how much damage these enviros have done to our local forests.
Sorry for my delayed reply but I couldn't get into FR yesterday but I agree that selfishness is the key to all these problems.
Muleteam1
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"For a forester, everyday is Earth Day!"
I think every jurist on that 9th District should be enjoined to go out into the very burned forest they rule over and sit on a limb in their ash smeared black robe until their damned feet fit that limb!!!
They should be enjoined to feed the dejected and ejected wildlife that remains and is too stupid, or weak to run over to an adjoining unburned area to live for awhile!!! I tell ya... They got shiffer brains syndrome!!!
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