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SPECIAL STATEMENT ON GOVERNMENT'S ATTEMPTS TO DESTROY THE INTERNET [FR Mentioned]
thedeadpelican ^ | 3/25/06 | Chad E. Rogers

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:20:21 AM PST by ncountylee

I’m enraged folks, at a single quote from this column that was forwarded to me today. The column starts by saying that “The Internet continues to confound Congress and the courts when it comes to free speech.”

Uh, excuse me? What right does the congress and the courts have to be thinking about it AT ALL?

The only thing they are allowed to do is PROTECT the current freedoms we have that already exist.

Even more disturbing is the quote from the article which states that “The Federal Elections Commission will decide Monday whether political blogs like the conservative Free Republic or the liberal Daily Kos should fall under the McCain-Feingold Bill and should be forced to register with the FEC.”

This is not something that should take place in a free society.

Registration with the FEC opens a pandora’s box that can’t be closed again, and when that happens its over.

“Oh, but it will ensure honesty and fairness,” you say.

That may be true, but what it won’t ensure is freedom, a word I’m repeating ad nauseam in this article because it’s a concept that this country seems to have lost sight of.

Freedom of speech is a simple prospect: either you have it, or you don’t. I own this domain name and this web page, and as long as the company who hosts it on their server doesn’t have a problem with what I write, then I can get paid however I want by whomever I want and post anything I want, and so can moveon.org and freerepublic.com.

THAT IS FREEDOM.

Screwing with that in any way whatsoever is government coercion, pure and simple.

I don’t give a damn what the government says- we’ve sacrificed enough of our freedoms in this country over the years and I’ve had it.

I will continue to operate this web site in the exact manner in which I do today, regardless of whatever laws are passed. I am willing to engage in willful civil disobedience if they screw with our right to unregulated internet free speech.

Men have gone to jail and/or died for lesser causes and I’m willing to do both if necessary because I’ve had it with government coercion!

If you agree with me, then get on the phone to your local congressman, senator, mayor, household pet, anyone and everyone who is interested and also those who aren’t.

Let them know you’re mad as hell!

In plain English, here it is: THE INTERNET MUST REMAIN FREE FROM THE KIND OF GOVERNMENT REGULATION ALLUDED TO IN THIS ARTICLE.

If you agree with me, then contact your local officials, national officials, and elected officials that you don’t even know and aren't in your district.

If you disagree with me don’t bother emailing me because you won’t change my mind and frankly I don’t care!

The internet is the last free place on earth and if the government gets its slimy scaly wretched hands on it, IT’S ALL OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--Chad E. Rogers.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 03/25/2006 11:20:23 AM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

That sums it up for me.


2 posted on 03/25/2006 11:22:02 AM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: ncountylee

--amen, brother-!!


3 posted on 03/25/2006 11:23:39 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: ncountylee
.."I got sum'in you can register', right hyr! .. , register 'dis!"
4 posted on 03/25/2006 11:25:48 AM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: ncountylee
Hello,

Count me in ~ I will not stand to have my freedoms taken away from me by faceless and unaccountable government employees!!!

Glad to be here, ready to fight this madness, MOgirl
5 posted on 03/25/2006 11:27:05 AM PST by MOgirl (Hillary. She's a totalitarian freak. And you know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: ncountylee

Congress cant touch it. As soon as they do they will be mobbed,like they have never seen. They are P*ssy's and when they are flooded they will crawl back to their hole.


6 posted on 03/25/2006 11:27:53 AM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: ncountylee
I don’t give a damn what the government says- we’ve sacrificed enough of our freedoms in this country over the years and I’ve had it.

This was my argument against the 'New and Improved Patriot Act'. Once government takes away a liberty, we will NEVER get it back. But the lemmings here on FR will gladly step in line and relinquish the rights our forefathers sacrificed everything for, in the name of 'security'.

I am thoroughly disgusted with what this country has become.

7 posted on 03/25/2006 11:33:43 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: ncountylee
"What right does the congress and the courts have to be thinking about it AT ALL?"

Exactly!!

8 posted on 03/25/2006 11:39:42 AM PST by davisfh
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To: ncountylee
"You better watch what you say or I'll rip your head off and shove it hard where the sun don't shine, and then I'll throw you in the brig and.... hey! Where's my strawberries?""


9 posted on 03/25/2006 11:40:43 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: CrawDaddyCA
This was my argument against the 'New and Improved Patriot Act'. Once government takes away a liberty, we will NEVER get it back.

Nonsense. We got habeas corpus back after Lincoln suspended it. During times of war it is natural and necessary that things tighten up. What FDR did during WWII would get him impeached today. A free people will always press for expansion of their liberties but it will be occur during peace time.

But this is something they would do in China and has no place here. We must protect the internet at all costs because the freedoms allowed here rightfully belong to all the citizens of the world.

10 posted on 03/25/2006 11:41:11 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: davisfh

"You CAN'T touch this!

11 posted on 03/25/2006 11:45:02 AM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: ncountylee
They wont, however, interfere with the pushers of porn - "free speech"

Did I see that MoveOn.org was on their hit list? Did I miss that?

The first thing the Hitler's/Stalins/etc of the world do is shut down communications between citizens.

The Internet is the greatest tool for freedom man has ever known.

Trouble for the libRats is that their lies get exposed and they are no longer in total control of the dissemination on news - Dictators don't get elected with an informed electorate.

12 posted on 03/25/2006 11:45:11 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: ncountylee

Let the Demonazis and Republifascists pass their sh!tty little law. I dare them to try and enforce it.


13 posted on 03/25/2006 11:45:47 AM PST by lesser_satan
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To: ncountylee

That about says it.


14 posted on 03/25/2006 11:47:40 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: ncountylee

I hope we all are pounding our Senators and Congress critters to make sure they know if they let mclean and goldfinger anywhere around the internet, they won't be voted back to Washington Doesn't Care.....

Not a threat, just facts folks....


15 posted on 03/25/2006 11:47:42 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: ncountylee

George Soros, Moveon.org, Streissand and the lot will NEVER allow this to happen. If they shut down conservative sites, they'll have to shut down liberal sites.

Now... are they going to stop me from sending political email??? Hmmmmmm???

First email I will send: REMOVE MCCAIN NOW!


16 posted on 03/25/2006 11:51:55 AM PST by Jo Nuvark ((Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3))
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To: ncountylee
The politicians' twisted logic is to call political speech that endorses one candidate or opinion, or attacks another candidate or opinion, an "in-kind contribution."

It is no longer acceptible to speak out against something if the opinion helps an opposition candidate. To the incumbant, the opposition opinion is no different than a paid campaign commercial, and so should be treated as such. This is a ridiculous position to take.

At what point will my vote be considered an in-kind contribution to a candidate?

-PJ

17 posted on 03/25/2006 11:52:27 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: HarleyLady27
I believe that the founders wisely saw that there someday could be a gutting of the 1st Amendment.

Wisely, they put in a 2nd Amendment as a fallback mechanism.

18 posted on 03/25/2006 11:53:15 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: thegreatbeast
Nonsense? I disagree. Let's look at recent history as an example. We have 'progressive' gun laws, aimed at 'protecting the children', but have only succeded in disarming citizens. We will never see them overturned. Now we have 'limits' on free speech, and this will never be returned.

Our politicians are nothing but a pack of lawyers that will twist the word of the law into whatever they decide it is. They no longer care if it's illegal or not, but if they can get away with it and for how long.

During 'times of war' you say? Well, we have The War on Poverty (still fighting it, no end in sight), The War on Drugs (ditto), and now The War on Terror (ditto again). Government will always create an enemy to take the heat off their screwups.

19 posted on 03/25/2006 11:53:52 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: LK44-40
Wisely, they put in a 2nd Amendment as a fallback mechanism.

Until we lose the 2nd amendment, that is. Oh, wait...most citizens already have, through 'progressive' gun laws.

Keep that powder dry, amigo...you will be needing it.

20 posted on 03/25/2006 11:57:19 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: ncountylee

Vote McCain!


ROFLMAO!!!!!


21 posted on 03/25/2006 11:59:41 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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To: ncountylee

If it's not Bush's fault, I'm not interested.


22 posted on 03/25/2006 12:08:03 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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To: maine-iac7

Wow, did you write the scripts for Max Headroom??


23 posted on 03/25/2006 12:09:02 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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To: trubluolyguy

Heck, they're trying to get us to vote McCain in order to get Hillary back in. GAG!!


24 posted on 03/25/2006 12:10:48 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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To: Lancey Howard
This piece of crap can stuff it, along with George Bush's CFR. Greasy, Big Stupid Government politicians can go to hell.

I'm rooting for The Lump. Ignore stupid laws!

25 posted on 03/25/2006 12:11:49 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: maine-iac7
Trouble for the libRats is that their lies get exposed and they are no longer in total control of the dissemination on news -

...which is why the MSM are all for it (and specifically exempt from the ban). This would re-establish their monopoly of information flow. McCain is pandering to the KingMakers like nobody's business.

26 posted on 03/25/2006 12:13:35 PM PST by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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To: ncountylee
Free Republic IS NOT A BLOG ! ! !

Give me a break Bump.

27 posted on 03/25/2006 12:15:37 PM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: cake_crumb

If McCain gets the nomination, that to me is a guarantee of Hillary being POTUS because I sure as hell am not going to vote for him. I like my rights too much.


28 posted on 03/25/2006 12:15:45 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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To: CrawDaddyCA
"Now we have 'limits' on free speech, and this will never be returned."


Please add "hate crimes legislation" to your list! In America, we will soon be prohibited from free speech, freedom of religion, and the free expression there of" The entire First Amendment will be up in smoke, except of course for the MSM who's propaganda follows the progressives.

Those laws fall right in line with this proposed legislating of FR and other places people gather to get news the Old Media will not publish.
29 posted on 03/25/2006 12:19:59 PM PST by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: ncountylee
The internet is the last free place on earth and if the government gets its slimy scaly wretched hands on it, IT’S ALL OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

###

Should be repeated often in as many places as possible.

30 posted on 03/25/2006 12:24:08 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: ncountylee
“The Federal Elections Commission will decide Monday whether political blogs like the conservative Free Republic or the liberal Daily Kos should fall under the McCain-Feingold Bill and should be forced to register with the FEC.”

If the expression of political opinion is the reason for registering a blog or a forum, then shouldn't most newspapers and magazines and news/commentary/analysis programs on TV and on radio also have to register. What would Rush say if he had to register with the FEC? Slippery slope indeed!
31 posted on 03/25/2006 12:24:55 PM PST by adorno
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To: Jim Robinson

bump


32 posted on 03/25/2006 12:28:48 PM PST by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: LK44-40

"Wisely, they put in a 2nd Amendment as a fallback mechanism."

Seems to me that even when the government starts to think along the lines of what is stated in the article that the "fallback mechanism" should be in full force.


33 posted on 03/25/2006 12:32:13 PM PST by jwh_Denver (If liberals had any brains they wouldn't use them anyway.)
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To: All; ncountylee; thegreatbeast; Mia T; Sic Luceat Lux; JLO; Alamo-Girl


.


NEVER FORGET


If we Vietnam Vets had had http://www.Freerepublic.com as our weapon to fight against the TV Lies the Anti-Freedom media and...

(sound familiar..?)
HILLARY RODHAM
BILL CLINTON
JOHN KERRY
TED KENNEDY
WALTER CRONKITE
DAN RATHER
BARBARA BOXER
JESSE JACKSON ..and all..



...were telling the American People about our fight for Freedom in Vietnam long ago,

...the once Free People of South Vietnam would still be Free today.

Instead we have these to sadly look at and to quickly learn from:


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts



For these same Anti-U.S. Activists would still have it all happen again here now with Freedom at stake at home and in the Middle East.


For...
the enemy is now within...
...and always has been.



The "With Liberty and Justice for all" words from our American Pledge of Allegiance are not just empty words.

They define the new Liberty Century we live in,

...if we are to be true to ourselves...

...and remain Free.






Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veterans-1st Major Battles for Freedom of the Vietnam War 1965-66

(Pictures)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
http://www.Freerepublic.com/~JLO
http://www.Freerepublic.com/~ALOHARONNIE


NEVER FORGET


34 posted on 03/25/2006 12:36:21 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: maine-iac7

ping


35 posted on 03/25/2006 12:36:51 PM PST by pointsal
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To: trubluolyguy
http://constitutionparty.com/

Yeah, there will be those that will accuse me of 'throwing away' my vote. Whatever...the lesser of two evils is still evil. The Constitution party is the closest to my political leanings.

36 posted on 03/25/2006 12:37:16 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

I have already read their platform, and agree with it 99%.

If there is no acceptable Repub candidate in '06 where I am, I will vote Constitution Party. If the Repubs nominate McCain in '08, I will vote Constitution Party again. If the Repubs keep going the direction they have been on issues that are important to me, I won't even keep looking to see who they are running in a particular election.

The only way a third party gets off the ground is when the Repubs and Dems are next to impossible to tell apart. On too many issues it's getting that way.


37 posted on 03/25/2006 12:45:00 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam is a Cult of Death that has been infiltrated by a few non-violent believers.)
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To: ncountylee
The Federal Elections Commission will decide Monday whether political blogs like the conservative Free Republic or the liberal Daily Kos should fall under the McCain-Feingold Bill and should be forced to register with the FEC

So the FEC is now deciding what is or is not constitutional based on CFR which is obviously unconstitutional? Do I have that right?

38 posted on 03/25/2006 12:46:00 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Jim Robinson; holdonnow; Tony Snow

ping


39 posted on 03/25/2006 1:13:32 PM PST by AliVeritas (“Pacifism is objectively pro-Islamo-Fascist.”)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

God bless you Ronnie, Outstanding!

Thanks to all of you... fallen, remaining and presently fighting for freedom... we will never forget.


40 posted on 03/25/2006 1:18:39 PM PST by AliVeritas (“Pacifism is objectively pro-Islamo-Fascist.”)
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To: Hank Rearden

Welcome back, Hank. Haven't seen you around for awhile.


41 posted on 03/25/2006 1:25:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ncountylee

Republicans are in the majority so this should never have come up.If they are pushing this they will lose the next election.We don't need any reform!


42 posted on 03/25/2006 1:31:28 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: drypowder
So the FEC is now deciding what is or is not constitutional based on CFR which is obviously unconstitutional? Do I have that right?

Bingo.

43 posted on 03/25/2006 1:31:59 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: MOgirl
We are in Missouri -- Morgan County, just NW of the Gravois arm of Lake of the Ozarks. I don't understand why Bush didn't just veto this bill when he had the chance instead of leaving it up to the courts.

Carolyn

44 posted on 03/25/2006 1:35:41 PM PST by CDHart
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To: CDHart
Hello,

How cool, I grew up in Lakeland (North Shore of Lake of the Ozarks), and now live in SW St. Louis County. I totally agree that President Bush should have vetoed the bill. I can only guess that he was convinced that the court would overturn at least parts of it. That was quite a gamble, given the makeup of the USSC at that time. Hence, our current problem.

Glad to be here, good to talk to you neighbor, MOgirl
45 posted on 03/25/2006 1:50:40 PM PST by MOgirl (Hillary. She's a totalitarian freak. And you know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: AliVeritas; All

.

Thank you for your kindness, AliVeritas.

The most Outstanding Vietnam Veteran of us all was:


The Man Who Predicted 9/11: RICK RESCORLA, ..r.i.p.

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361

.


46 posted on 03/25/2006 2:00:07 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


47 posted on 03/25/2006 2:19:02 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: CrawDaddyCA
Nonsense? I disagree. Let's look at recent history as an example. We have 'progressive' gun laws, aimed at 'protecting the children', but have only succeded in disarming citizens. We will never see them overturned. Now we have 'limits' on free speech, and this will never be returned.

The right to carry is sweeping the nation, haven't you heard? It isn't happening at the national level but it is happening one state at a time. I think Kansas very recently amended their laws. As a prisoner in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, I won't get there with you but some thirty odd states are reinstating the rights of their citizens.

48 posted on 03/25/2006 2:50:20 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: ncountylee

WTF? First of all FR is NOT a 'blog', but a 'bulletin board' for free speech and the free exchange of ideas...secondly, LEAVE YOUR STINKING CENSORING HANDS OFFA MY INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!


49 posted on 03/25/2006 5:03:19 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

I'm disgusted with American citizens who assume they have rights that don't really exist except in their imaginations. I'm also disgusted with courts that take it upon themselves to interpret the plain words of the constitution to mean whatever suits their particular agenda.


50 posted on 03/25/2006 8:58:10 PM PST by jess35
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