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Prince Philip pictured at Nazi funeral
Dailymail UK ^ | 3/25/06 | ANDREW LEVY

Posted on 03/25/2006 3:11:13 PM PST by freedom44

Prince Philip has broken a 60-year public silence about his family's links with the Nazis.

In a frank interview, he said they found Hitler's attempts to restore Germany's power and prestige 'attractive' and admitted they had 'inhibitions about the Jews'.

The revelations come in a book about German royalty kowtowing to the Nazis, which features photographs never published in the UK.

They include one of Philip aged 16 at the 1937 funeral of his elder sister Cecile, flanked by relatives in SS and Brownshirt uniforms.

One row back in the cortege in Darmstadt, western Germany, was his uncle, Lord Mountbatten, wearing a Royal Navy bicorn hat.

Another picture shows his youngest sister, Sophia, sitting opposite Hitler at the wedding of Hermann and Emmy Goering.

Explaining the attraction of the Nazis, 84-year-old Prince Philip told an American academic: "There was a great improvement in things like trains running on time and building. There was a sense of hope after the depressing chaos of the Weimar Republic.

"I can understand people latching on to something or somebody who appeared to be appealing to their patriotism and trying to get things going. You can understand how attractive it was."

The revelations are in the book Royals and the Reich

He added that there was 'a lot of enthusiasm for the Nazis at the time, the economy was good, we were anti-Communist and who knew what was going to happen to the regime?'

Philip stressed that he was never 'conscious of anybody in the family actually expressing anti-Semitic views'. But he went on to say there were 'inhibitions about the Jews' and 'jealousy of their success'.

Philip was born Prince of Greece and Denmark on Corfu in 1921, the youngest of five children and the only son of Prince Andrew of Greece and Princess Alice of Battenberg. All four of his sisters married German princes and three - Sophie, Cecile and Margarita - became members of the Nazi party.

Sophia's husband, Prince Christoph of Hesse, became chief of Goering's secret intelligence service and they were frequent guests at Nazi functions.

Philip went on to fight with distinction for the Allies in the Second World War before marrying the young Princess Elizabeth in 1947, five years before she became Queen. He served with the Royal Navy where, by 1945, he had risen to the rank of first lieutenant on a destroyer and was mentioned in despatches.

All of his sisters and brothers-inlaw are now dead but he keeps in contact with his German relatives.

His comments on the family's Nazi connections appear in Royals and the Reich, by Jonathan Petropoulos, to be published in Britain in May.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bigearedgalut; nazi; naziindisguise; princephilip; royals; wwii
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1 posted on 03/25/2006 3:11:14 PM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44
But he went on to say there were 'inhibitions about the Jews' and 'jealousy of their success'.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

2 posted on 03/25/2006 3:14:42 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: freedom44

Thanks. I was not aware of all that information about his family.

Hitler probably believed that England would be an ally in the war. The abdication of the king probably had more to do with his Nazi ties than his wife's history as a prostitute.


3 posted on 03/25/2006 3:15:11 PM PST by sine_nomine (Every baby is a blessing from God, from the moment of conception.)
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To: freedom44
--IMHO, Prince Phillip of Battenberg has a less dubious record during the run-up to WW 2 than the Queen's Uncle Eddie, Duke of Windsor--

--Churchill, et al, had to cover up his near-treason and ship him off to the Bahamas in exile to save the reputation of the "royal" family--

4 posted on 03/25/2006 3:18:52 PM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: freedom44

Am I the only one who doesn't see why this is news worthy?


5 posted on 03/25/2006 3:20:11 PM PST by right wing (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: freedom44

This is reaching to say the least. Were Prince Phillip of Greece and Lord Louis Mountbatten (to give them their titles at the time) not supposed to attend the funeral of their sister and niece?


6 posted on 03/25/2006 3:22:08 PM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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To: freedom44

In 1937 WW II as two years away. Diplomatic protocol required people at funerals to be there with odious people from other countries.


7 posted on 03/25/2006 3:25:14 PM PST by pabianice
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To: freedom44
and who knew what was going to happen to the regime?'

Maybe reading Mein Kampf might have given the Prince an idea where Hitler was headed.

8 posted on 03/25/2006 3:28:27 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: freedom44

Neville Chamberlain played ball with the Nazis too.

"Peace in out time"...


9 posted on 03/25/2006 3:28:27 PM PST by Supernatural
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To: freedom44
Philip stressed that he was never 'conscious of anybody in the family actually expressing anti-Semitic views'. But he went on to say there were 'inhibitions about the Jews' and 'jealousy of their success'.

European royals b*tching about successful Jews. Geez...

10 posted on 03/25/2006 3:31:05 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: freedom44

They should also mention that his mother, Princess Alice hid Jews in Greece during the war and is officially listed in Israel as one of the Righteous Gentiles. Also, after 1933, Philip left Germany for good and attended Gordonstoun in Scotland, which was founded by a virulent Hitler-hating headmaster.


11 posted on 03/25/2006 3:32:29 PM PST by soozer47
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To: Christopher Lincoln

They were supposed to tell people what to wear. </sarcasm/off>


12 posted on 03/25/2006 3:34:09 PM PST by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: soozer47
There are too many who would deny the truth to sell books or in their hatred of England pretend that they were nazi sympathizers.

There were many people here in the US with far worse opinions of the jews and far more admiration for the nazi's.

13 posted on 03/25/2006 3:35:54 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: freedom44
The Duke of Windsor was the real Hitler-lover of the family, which is often forgotten by the media which idolizes his "style" and ignores his (and his wife's) lack of substance.

For all its faults, Kitty Kelly's book, The Royals, does a fairly good job in explaining the Windsor's German roots and the Masterpiece Theatre "Bertie and Elizabeth" does a nice job of portraying English royalty during WWII.

14 posted on 03/25/2006 3:38:32 PM PST by MHT
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To: OldFriend

Prince Phillip bore arms and risked his life in battle for Crown and country. That is all you need to know or understand, the rest does not mean a damn thing.


15 posted on 03/25/2006 3:43:09 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: freedom44

This British hanged "Lord" Haw Haw after WWII whereas there is considerable belief that the US would have let him live if we had tried him on treason (he was an American born immigrant to England who became an English language Nazi propaganda broadcaster in Germany).


16 posted on 03/25/2006 3:48:57 PM PST by weegee ("Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.")
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To: freedom44
Anti Jew sentiments were once quite the fashion in bourgeoisie WASP circles. They were just too pushy and lean and hungry, and didn't call it a day at 5 pm. The film footage of the ovens ended all of that.
17 posted on 03/25/2006 3:50:46 PM PST by Torie
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To: sine_nomine
I don't know about Hilter, but Ted Kennedys daddy sure thought we should have backed the Nazis over England and he wasn't shy about saying so.

As if one needed another reason to despise the Kennedys.

L

18 posted on 03/25/2006 3:52:39 PM PST by Lurker (I trust in God. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: sine_nomine
I don't think Hitler would have counted on such an outcome.

Allying with a Nazi Germany about to overrun Europe would conflict directly with the traditional British policy of maintaining the "balance of power" in Europe.
19 posted on 03/25/2006 3:55:36 PM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: Lurker

Joe Kennedy didn't like the English, but Jack loved them. Go figure. Jack I guess was more assimilated.


20 posted on 03/25/2006 3:56:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: freedom44
Below: Prince Phillip (circled, obviously) at a 1937 Nazi funeral.


21 posted on 03/25/2006 4:12:34 PM PST by montag813
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To: sine_nomine

His wife's history as WHAT? Please provide some historical links - Mrs. Simpson was ostracized enough - but this is a slander I have never heard....


22 posted on 03/25/2006 4:14:44 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Torie
Are you sure? The bourgeoisie churches today are passing resolutions and support an endorsement of the anti-Israel disinvestments campaign. World Council of Churches indornment of disinvestments from Israel is disturbing and distasteful. It is designed to show Israel in a bad light and encourage anti-Semitism. Some things never end.
23 posted on 03/25/2006 4:14:52 PM PST by FreeRep
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To: billorites
But he went on to say there were 'inhibitions about the Jews' and 'jealousy of their success'.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

Then of course you support the re-writing of history books, as practiced by the commies in this country as well as elsewhere?

Or just in putting your head in the sand and yelling 'lalalalala' when inconvenient historical facts are admitted to ALONG WITH THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT THAT THEY OCCURED IN, which is NOT the same as trying to justify them....

24 posted on 03/25/2006 4:16:42 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: freedom44
Explaining the attraction of the Nazis, 84-year-old Prince Philip told an American academic: "There was a great improvement in things like trains running on time and building. There was a sense of hope after the depressing chaos of the Weimar Republic.

And Osama Bin Laden builds hospitals.

25 posted on 03/25/2006 4:18:18 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Gee, is it news to you that the European Jews were historically viewed with suspicion for centuries? But I do not recall them being rounded up in the UK, however, do you?

I would suggest reading some history and not judging how people behaved 80 years ago through "20-20 hindsight"....

26 posted on 03/25/2006 4:19:10 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Supernatural
Neville Chamberlain played ball with the Nazis too.

Chamberlain had a relative (I think it was his brother) who was an all-out Nazi sympathizer.

27 posted on 03/25/2006 4:19:41 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: OldFriend
"There were many people here in the US with far worse opinions of the jews and far more admiration for the nazi's."

Quite correct...most prominently one Charles Lindbergh, probably considered the greatest living American hero between the wars..

28 posted on 03/25/2006 4:20:23 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Al Simmons

Before Hitler Germany, compared to most of the rest of Europe, was probably one of the least anti-semitic countries. Especially compared to Britain and France.


29 posted on 03/25/2006 4:21:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Dude, this was BEFORE the persecutions started in earnest...Kristalnacht did not occur until 1938...learn some history...


30 posted on 03/25/2006 4:22:40 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: freedom44

"Philip went on to fight with distinction for the Allies in the Second World War...."

Interesting and honest revelations in the story.

Probably had waning enthusiasm for the Reich once the bombings of London started


31 posted on 03/25/2006 4:24:15 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: dfwgator
"Before Hitler Germany, compared to most of the rest of Europe, was probably one of the least anti-semitic countries. Especially compared to Britain and France."

I am not educated enough to dispute your statement above, but I will say that, IF it is true, then the Krauts sure "went balls to the wall" when they decided to change, didn't they??

32 posted on 03/25/2006 4:24:38 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Al Simmons

What is your problem? My comment was in response to Philip's QUOTE about his family's jealousy of successful Jews.


33 posted on 03/25/2006 4:25:28 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: dfwgator

There was an interesting story on the History Channel this week. It was about Churchill.

England was ready to surrender to Germany in 1940 or 41. In a heated discussion and a passionate, long speech, Churchill convinced Parliment not to surrender to Germany.

As Maxwell Smart used to say, "They were that close".


34 posted on 03/25/2006 4:26:43 PM PST by Supernatural
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Well, I read it as being unduly harsh towards him, given how long ago it was - unless your purpose is to equally slander the majority of well-meaning people on both sides of the pond who nonetheless held similar views BEFORE 1938, yet did not condone discrimination in any way...in which case I would just repeat that one should study history in context, not through "Monday morning quarterbacking"...


35 posted on 03/25/2006 4:27:52 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Al Simmons

Your mention of Charles Lindbergh and the mention of Wally Simpson on the thread is interesting as both of them at different times lived in the same apt. bldg. a mile up the street from me here in San Diego.


36 posted on 03/25/2006 4:28:37 PM PST by SoCalPol (Hillary kvetching is like Jack the Ripper moralizing to my neuro surgeon)
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To: freedom44
"There was a great improvement in things like trains running on time."

Wrong dictator Sparky, it was Mussolini who made the trains run on time!
37 posted on 03/25/2006 4:31:18 PM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Al Simmons
I am not educated enough to dispute your statement above, but I will say that, IF it is true, then the Krauts sure "went balls to the wall" when they decided to change, didn't they??

It really is an amazing phenomena. I think it was a case of a few distorted individuals taking advantage of the German penchant for obeying orders without question. Hitler was able to seize on Germans' frustration with their loss in stature after their WWI defeat. It made them more open to accepting the Nazi's crazy racial theories, or at least quietly acquiescing to them. I've read William L. Shirer's works on life in Germany before the war, and it really is amazing how quickly a people was transformed. People who just a few years before wrote Hitler off as a lunatic, now praised him to the gills, and it wasn't out of intimidation, they really meant it.

38 posted on 03/25/2006 4:31:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: OldFriend
There were many people here in the US with far worse opinions of the jews and far more admiration for the nazi's.

True. Henry Ford, for one.

39 posted on 03/25/2006 4:32:15 PM PST by Young Scholar
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To: Al Simmons

You're not getting my comment at all. It has nothing to do with who thought what when on which side of the pond in 1938.

Do you see the absurdity of royals - privileged, wealthy people - being jealous of successful others simply because they're of a certain religion/ethnicity?

And please stop jumping all over people in this thread!


40 posted on 03/25/2006 4:33:42 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: mkjessup

"There was a great improvement in things like trains running on time."




Talk about a stock answer! I think old Phil's been senile for awhile now.


41 posted on 03/25/2006 4:36:48 PM PST by Tevin
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To: right wing

"Am I the only one who doesn't see why this is news worthy?"

No, you're not!



42 posted on 03/25/2006 4:37:07 PM PST by BW2221
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To: pabianice
Diplomatic protocol required people at funerals to be there with odious people from other countries.

Still does!


43 posted on 03/25/2006 4:37:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Reiterating facts or setting the record straight is not 'jumping all over people on the thread'.

Seems only certain opinions are allowed by you?

44 posted on 03/25/2006 4:37:41 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
"Do you see the absurdity of royals - privileged, wealthy people - being jealous of successful others simply because they're of a certain religion/ethnicity?"

Well, now that you put it that way, it does sound absurd....(thinking of Monty Python's sendup of Royal members as stuttering, sillywalking, inbred twits..)

Didn't mean to jump all over people..just too quick on the trigger and perhaps a bit too sensitive to a '20-20 hindsight' reading of history...being an (amateur) historian few things tick me off as quickly (particularly as I attended commie schools as a kid before I emigrated to the USA, and let me tell you, those people cornered the market on that stuff....)

45 posted on 03/25/2006 4:37:42 PM PST by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Al Simmons

If you would have asked Brits in 1936 who was loonier, Hitler or Churchill, most probably would have said Churchill. He was a 'voice in the wilderness' when he was warning them about Hitler.


46 posted on 03/25/2006 4:39:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: freedom44

No mention of Joe Kennedy, who served as ambassador to britain and told FDR we should support Hitler? Gee, why not?


47 posted on 03/25/2006 4:39:41 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: MHT
Kitty KellEy is a whore.
48 posted on 03/25/2006 4:40:03 PM PST by BW2221
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To: OldFriend

I wasn't talking to you.
See Al's response in http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1603094/posts?page=45#45


49 posted on 03/25/2006 4:40:43 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Do you see the absurdity of royals - privileged, wealthy people - being jealous of successful others simply because they're of a certain religion/ethnicity?




Sure do. Beggars the question why didn't they convert. lol
Seriously, be wary of those who "admit" to jealousy. they're usually hiding motives much more sinister.


50 posted on 03/25/2006 4:40:48 PM PST by Tevin
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