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LA Times : Russians Told Iraqi Regime of U.S. Troop Movements
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 25, 2006 | By Peter Spiegel and Greg Miller, Times Staff Writers

Posted on 03/25/2006 9:32:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

WASHINGTON — Russian diplomats passed detailed but sometimes inaccurate information about American troop movements to senior Iraqi officials even as U.S. troops closed in on Baghdad during the 2003 invasion, according to a Pentagon study released Friday.

The revelations, based on captured Iraqi intelligence documents, could jeopardize U.S.-Russian relations more than any single event since the end of the Cold War, analysts said. Although they cautioned that Moscow might have an explanation, the analysts said some of the details were so sensitive that they would be difficult for the government of President Vladimir V. Putin to justify.

One of the documents, which purports to be a summary of a letter sent to Saddam Hussein's office by a Russian official, claimed that Moscow had "sources inside the American Central Command in Doha," the U.S. military's headquarters in Qatar during the war.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: espionage; iraq; iraqiintelligence; kgb; mole; nonallyrussia; prewardocs; russia; sovietunion
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Finally the MSM found their voice....
1 posted on 03/25/2006 9:32:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And from the NY Times.....

ESPIONAGE

U.S. Inquiry Finds Russians Passed Spy Data to Iraq in '03

By THOM SHANKER
Published: March 25, 2006
A Russian spy operation provided information on U.S. war plans to Iraqi officials in the early days of the war, documents show.
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2 posted on 03/25/2006 9:34:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Funny, this was all on Drudge two days ago...

The left rolled out the father of the first casualty of the Iraq War, that Marine from Camp Pendleton. Someone should ask him what he thinks of the Russians giving out our troop positions. I suppose it will still be Bush's fault.


3 posted on 03/25/2006 9:38:47 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And the Washington Post:

Russia Denies Leaking U.S. Intelligence To Iraq in 2003

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Associated Press
Sunday, March 26, 2006; Page A15

MOSCOW, March 25 --

MOSCOW, March 25 -- Russia's foreign spy agency denied Saturday that Moscow had given former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein information on U.S. troop movements and plans during the invasion of Iraq, while analysts speculated that the Pentagon claim was tied to a growing rift between the West and the Kremlin.

A Pentagon report Friday cited two seized Iraqi documents as saying Russia obtained information from sources "inside the American Central Command" in Qatar and passed battlefield intelligence to Hussein through the former Russian ambassador in Baghdad.

The Russian Foreign Intelligence Service dismissed the claims.


4 posted on 03/25/2006 9:40:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: BurbankKarl

It took them awhile to say anything!


5 posted on 03/25/2006 9:42:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We simply must pull whatever "favored trading partner" status or the like from Russia...they tried to lead to our defeat...that's not the actions of a friend, or even an neutral party.


6 posted on 03/25/2006 9:47:15 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It took them a while but maybe they're starting to realize they can't sit back and ignore what's going to get out anyway.


7 posted on 03/25/2006 9:48:15 PM PST by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: BurbankKarl

Well...Bush did look into Putin's soul and found a swell fella ;)


9 posted on 03/25/2006 9:49:41 PM PST by teldon30 (Far right, elitist, sexist, cynical religious bigot and looter)
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To: confederatetrappedinmidwest

The one interesting thing from this entire story...which few grasp unless you read twice...the Russians got their data from an inside source...yep, pointing towards CENTCOM itself. The type of data they passed to the Iraqis...either came from breaking into their network, or by a human source. Either way, you've got a major issue now. A couple of years have passed now...and it will be hard to track who knew what and might be considered a suspect. And the search might not even be worth it...if it was your network or a bugging device. This part of the story is just as interesting as the Russians being named.


10 posted on 03/25/2006 9:54:57 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: jazusamo; BurbankKarl; pepsionice
It took them a while but maybe they're starting to realize they can't sit back and ignore what's going to get out anyway.

I bet they are going to Cherry Pick ....watch and see if the links to bin Laden and Saddam training terrorists to go to London show up....this revelation is big enough that they may just print this as the story about the documents....

11 posted on 03/25/2006 10:07:21 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Far less than the American press has done!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


12 posted on 03/25/2006 10:09:36 PM PST by bray (Proud Bushbot for 6 years going on 8)
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To: confederatetrappedinmidwest
I still believe to this day that most of the world was very happy on Sept 11 2001. We saw the pictures of the celebrations in rag head land, but secretly in Europe many were happy there too.

BS. It is obviously that your outlook on the world seems to be trapped in the rural midwest too. Maybe even if we Germans (I come from Germany) did not loose 3000 people, we lost over 30 people in this insane terrorist plot. My mother made the painting below to show her compassion with America two days after 9/11. Since we have some close familymembers who are living in New York this was not just an empty gesture:

Blown up and selfish people that seem to be addicted to political auto-erotic make me sick.

13 posted on 03/25/2006 10:14:13 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When I first read this I wasn't too surprised because the LA Times has printed 2 other conservative type pieces this last week. But then I saw where the NY Slimes and WaPo picked it up too, that surprised me.
14 posted on 03/25/2006 10:14:35 PM PST by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Finally the MSM found their voice...."

And I'm sure someone is being fired,as we post.


15 posted on 03/25/2006 10:16:51 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: confederatetrappedinmidwest
I say the hell with them, Russia France and Germany all had alterior motives in mind when they obstructed our war effort.

In one of the Leavenworth documents, it was stated by a high Iraqi official that French leadership (Chirac et. al.) view the US as a big a threat to them as Islamic Terrorism.

Stunning considering that all we have wanted to do since liberating them is to buy their wine, eat their cheese and visit their tourist traps.

The reality is that the anti-Americanism is really all about geopolitics, international oil politics and the envy of our 'hyper power' status.

16 posted on 03/25/2006 10:27:08 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: pepsionice

a thought. this "info/intel" possibly "provided to" the russians could have been an intentional misinformation/misdirection campaign designed and transmitted/leaked, by our war planners to confuse the enemy. our forces in other conflicts used this tactic to great advantage. what do you think?


17 posted on 03/25/2006 10:55:51 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oh golly, gee whiz, certainly that can't be true. Russia! Say it isn't so.

They are so red, inside and out and we call them friends. Politically; friends! No wonder Stella won a cool million over hot coffee at Mickey Dee's. We're stupid. Does the public buy that crapola or just the politicians? I'd really love to know.

God help us. We can't seem to help ourselves.

18 posted on 03/25/2006 11:10:38 PM PST by Frwy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

'Didn't seem to help them much.


19 posted on 03/25/2006 11:19:20 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Atlantic Bridge; confederatetrappedinmidwest

Oh please. confederatetrappedinmidwest has it exactly rihgt. Europe is so jealous of the US, and while they would probably never wish 911 on their worst enemy, they were secretly happy that the US had it's "comeuppance." And don't waste your breath trying to tell me how Germans stood in solidarity. That lasted like two f&*king minutes until we wanted to invade Iraq and then the Germans staretd crying like a bunch of bitches...probably because they were swinging from Saddam's nutsack. And BTW, your mom can't paint worth a sh&$.


20 posted on 03/25/2006 11:43:36 PM PST by steel_resolve (An intolerant culture will seek to impose it's will on the tolerant one.)
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To: confederatetrappedinmidwest

This is why we should never allow the coalition to define the mission.


21 posted on 03/25/2006 11:45:32 PM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: pepsionice
Re either came from breaking into their network, or by a human source.

I Disagree.

1) General Tommy Franks said in his 2004 book, American Soldier, that CENTCOM had a very active disinformation team that produced old, outdated, and mocked up data.

2) We know other nations can use commercial and government Sat images to identify our troops, so it is in our interest to provide a false narrative to the data before them.

3) Iraq was not able to use this data to effect any meaningful military counterattack. In fact, they did not display a single military significant maneuver during their pitiful defense.

22 posted on 03/25/2006 11:54:42 PM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let's face it, Russia is an evil empire and so is China.


23 posted on 03/26/2006 12:27:23 AM PST by garylmoore (Homosexuality: Obviously unnatural, so obviously wrong.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Russian diplomats passed detailed but sometimes inaccurate information

Ha! That's cool.
Bush obviously asked Putin to help with this basic war tactic, the misinformation ploy. Nice to see the Russians lent us a hand.
It worked, that's for sure.

24 posted on 03/26/2006 12:40:34 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And they still couldn't do anything to stop the US.


25 posted on 03/26/2006 1:02:13 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: justa-hairyape
The reality is that the anti-Americanism is really all about geopolitics, international oil politics and the envy of our 'hyper power' status.

Yes, especially envy. I could tell you a hundred stories of conversations I had with Europeans recently in Thailand, but on one occasion I was talking with a young guy from somewhere in central Europe.

I touched a few times on our vast military superiority and got no real reaction, but then when I said "And we're so much richer than your countries.." he sat up and sneered hatefully "I am not care about your MONEY!". Really struck a nerve. I giggled my butt off. The money is what really eats them alive.
26 posted on 03/26/2006 2:04:25 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: steel_resolve
That lasted like two f&*king minutes until we wanted to invade Iraq and then the Germans staretd crying like a bunch of bitches...probably because they were swinging from Saddam's nutsack.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. We helped and still help with our (of course limited - Germany is a small country) means in Afghanistan.

Personally I regret the stance of most of my compatriots on Iraq since I believe it was nessecary to get rid of Saddam Hussein because he was simply a man-eater. On the other hand there is obviously no connection between him and 9/11. I am well aware that some people in your country try to construct a alliance between him and Bin Laden. Anyway this is rather unlikely to me and nobody has given a conclusive proof for this predication so far. Therefore Iraq is for sure a party we Germans are not obligated to dance on.

Why?

The alliance that connects our countries, the NATO, is only restricted to defensive actions. You just have to read Article V of the NATO Treaty. To fulfill its duties Germany helped and helps the US in Afghanistan after 9/11 because the war there was and is a defensive action:

http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom1/CoalitionPages/Germany.htm

If Saddam Hussein would have attacked the US or any other of our allies directly we would have helped with everything we have. Defensive help and actions are not the question. This much is for sure.

But... ...Saddam Hussein did not attack you - he was attacked. The preemptive strike of the US in Iraq is something that is offensive. Offensive wars are strictly forbidden in the German constitution, the so called "Grundgesetz". Besides of this legal problem there was absolutely no majority among the German people to support offensive actions. Nobody in my country believed in large amounts of WMDs or that Saddam Hussein was a eminent danger to Germany or the US. He was a danger to Israel, but this is also a different party. Since our gouvernment is (like it should be in every other democracy) a instrument of its voters, it was clear that it was never possible for our country to take part in a American "alliance of the willing". José Maria Aznar is a tragic example for what happens to those who ignore openly the will of their people.

As I already said personally I would have appreciated a German contribution to the Iraq war. Not because of some WMDs that never have been found, but because of the fact that there was a bloody dictator that slaughtered ruthlessly his own people. But... ...I would have only supported this if there would have been a majority of my compatriots to support this war just like I do. This was definitly not the case. To me our working democracy is much more important than to join into a war that was not really nessecary to our own or the security of our allies.

27 posted on 03/26/2006 2:56:12 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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The Commander-in-Chief is taken for a ride by his good friend Vladie Pootin.

28 posted on 03/26/2006 4:00:56 AM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yes, Finally they have.....but why is THIS the only information from the documents they are focused on? I wonder why none of the information that would attack the whole "Bush Lied" mantra is simply being ignored, except for a few small reports/interviews on Fox. Is it because they haven't figured out yet how to spin it to the left's advantage?


29 posted on 03/26/2006 4:48:24 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: WideGlide

The problem with our relationship with Russia is not simply George Bush and his pootie-poot, but Condoleeza Rice and the CSIS and Brookings crowd who believe that detente with Russia -- an oriental despotism -- actually works.


30 posted on 03/26/2006 5:05:06 AM PST by gaspar
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. They were spirited out of the country and are most likely in the Bekka Valley in Syria. I don't care whether or not you believe this. FACTS are coming to light that support this view. Saddam's general recently wrote a book about it. But you will ignore all this because it doesn't fit your oil/Halliburton/revenge/whatever conspiracy theories. Also, Saddam had connections to Al Quaeda. Again, I care not whether you believe this, but more and more documents are coming to light that paint this picture very distinctly. See the problem is that your pacifist socialist nanny state has drained you and your countrymen of any ability to see a gathering threat, and moreover to do a damn thing about it. (HELLO IRAN? NUKES? HELLO?). I am sure This is probably our fault as we provided for Western Europe's security for the last 50 years. This allowed you to grow your welfare state and sneer at the cowboy Americans and their warmongering ways. That's fine. We'll goon being the cowboys and eliminating threats before they show up in our ports or our cities and you keep sitting there mouthing garbage like "Saddam didn't attack you" and "NATO is defensive only". We already know what side your country and people like you stand on. Thankfully there are places like Australia and England that took their head out of their ass and realized that threats must be eliminated before they are allowed to destroy our way of life. Germans - Freeloaders.


31 posted on 03/26/2006 8:40:56 AM PST by steel_resolve (An intolerant culture will seek to impose it's will on the tolerant one.)
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To: ChadGore

1) General Tommy Franks said in his 2004 book, American Soldier, that CENTCOM had a very active disinformation team that produced old, outdated, and mocked up data.

2) We know other nations can use commercial and government Sat images to identify our troops, so it is in our interest to provide a false narrative to the data before them.

3) Iraq was not able to use this data to effect any meaningful military counterattack. In fact, they did not display a single military significant maneuver during their pitiful defense.
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Don't miss the point. Whether info was disinfo, outdated or not effectively used by Iraq is not relevant. It was obtained and passed on by the Russians. Add revelations of the "Oil for food" program and we see how Russians worked against American interest. It proves we cannot trust Russia to act any different with the developing problems with Iran.


32 posted on 03/26/2006 8:44:41 AM PST by hdstmf
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To: Atlantic Bridge

STFU


33 posted on 03/26/2006 8:46:48 AM PST by hdstmf
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To: Atlantic Bridge

You have room for 10 million French refugees? You might need to plan for it.

We would not be in Iraq today if Saddam Hussein had not invaded Kuwait.
We would not be in Iraq if Hussein had not violated 17 United Nations resolutions.
We would not be in Iraq if Hussein had not violated the cease-fire he signed after he lost the first war.
We would not be in Iraq if Hussein had allowed the weapons inspectors to do their job.
If we were misled, we were misled by Saddam Hussein, who acted like he had weapons.
Saddam Hussein is solely responsible for the invasion of Iraq, not President Bush.
We would not be in Iraq today if the United Naions had not vacillated and failed to hold Iraq accountable and enforced their resolutions.


34 posted on 03/26/2006 9:18:45 AM PST by listenhillary (The original Contract with America - The U.S. Constitution)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
On the other hand there is obviously no connection between him and 9/11.

You really believe that?

No connection of any kind?

The airplane at Salman Pak, just happened to land there?

35 posted on 03/26/2006 9:57:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All; listenhillary; Atlantic Bridge; ChadGore; steel_resolve
Just came across this:

Terrorist made calls to Syria.....from the USA...in 1999

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Posted on Thu, Mar. 23, 2006


Terrorist made calls to Syria


Albany Times Union

The spiritual leader of an Albany mosque repeatedly called a phone number in Syria that an FBI report indicates had been used to gather terrorist intelligence for Osama bin Laden, according to classified documents unsealed late Tuesday in U.S. District Court.

The FBI report, which was based on information from a confidential informant, was among several once-secret documents that federal authorities say raise questions about Yassin Aref's connections to terrorist organizations across the Middle East.

Aref, 35, a Kurdish refugee who moved to Albany with his family in 1999, is in jail without bond while awaiting trial on charges related to an FBI counterterrorism sting. He has denied any connections to terrorism.

But federal authorities paint him as an intelligent religious scholar with strong ties to some terrorists.

The FBI report is undated and heavily redacted. It states that an informant told the FBI that during October 2001 he was approached by someone soliciting intelligence about "flight training schools, access to airports in (redacted)" and information about "how close the individual could get to an aircraft."

The informant said he was instructed that any information could be distributed to "brothers" through two phone numbers in Damascus, Syria. One of the numbers was called repeatedly by Aref from his Albany home.


36 posted on 03/26/2006 10:17:53 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All

Guess he came to this country in 1999, calls made in 2001.


37 posted on 03/26/2006 10:19:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All

Hattip to the ThreatsWatch Blog for the Grand Forks article on the Imman in Albany NY.


38 posted on 03/26/2006 10:22:57 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; tubebender; Mo1; onyx; snugs; listenhillary; ..
And from the Gateway Pundit Blog:

Saturday, March 25, 2006
Ouch! Photos Show Iraqi & Russian Defense Reps Days Before War!

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Russia's UN mission spokesman blasted the Pentagon report released on Friday. The Pentagon report was based on documents taken from Iraq after the collapse of the Saddam Hussein regime. One translated memo addressed to a Saddam secretary from the Russian Ambassador to Iraq details US military plans on the eve of the War in Iraq...

But, it will be difficult for the Russians to slam photos of Russian military officials receiving awards from Saddam's Defense Minister for assisting the regime days before the startup to the war.


Col. Gen. Vladimir Achalov and Col. Gen. Igor Maltsev, both former high-ranking officers involved in Soviet rapid-reaction and air defense forces are seen at an awards ceremony with Iraqi Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Ahmed in early March 2003, less than 10 days before the start of the war.
(Gazeta)

39 posted on 03/26/2006 10:34:15 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All
From PajamasMedia Blog:

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PJM SPECIAL COVERAGE


SADDAM DOCUMENT PROJECT: IRAQFILES

tape.jpgThe Pentagon is releasing many never before seen Saddam era documents and media. A large number of these are still in the original Arabic. The hope is that the blogosphere will help translate. At our new IRAQFILES blog PJM will monitor and post the growing number of translations from an Army of Translators of these documents and media. The first two, of the same document, are here (by Iraq the Model) and here. Others are being posted (with analysis) at the IRAQFILES.

IMPORTANT: As new documents are posted on the Pentagon site, please send your translations from the Arabic and analyses to the following email: iraq dash-sign translations at-sign pajamasmedia dot-character com. Please type "Translation Project" in the subject line.



40 posted on 03/26/2006 10:41:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas
Your thread at FreeRepublic referenced ....click on here just after Iraq the Model....on the post above.
41 posted on 03/26/2006 10:46:54 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"And from the Gateway Pundit Blog:"
As you said the other day, things are sure heating up. Nothing like a picture.
42 posted on 03/26/2006 11:32:57 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; Dog Gone; NormsRevenge; dalereed; forester; hedgetrimmer; ...
Am I the only kook (Keeper Of Odd Knowledge) that still remembers that band of about 5 or 6 Russians (supposed diplomats) that got hit and killed just north of Baghdad on the road toward Syria by fire from our warplanes just a day or two after our troops helped the Iraq people pull down that statue of Saddam?

Am I the only KOOK that still speculates and thearorizes that the danged Rooskies were DEEPly involved with Saddam's Weapons Of Mass Destruction, most certainly including the nuclear weapons so as to be a client/puppet of Russia withwhich to threaten the US AND THE WORLD's ECONOMIC LYNCH-PIN OF OIL SUPPLY?

And furthermore... Am I the only KOOK that believes strongly that the Russians saw to it that the WMD's were snuck into Syria, where they remain today for the same reason they were in Saddam's Iraq in the first place?

I just don't think "W" got all the way into rootin tootin boot skootin putin's soul through his eyes like he said he did!!!

There! Now whaddaya think of them apples, gang???

43 posted on 03/26/2006 12:35:33 PM PST by SierraWasp (Without knowing the force of words, it is impossible to know man!!! (or especially Waspman!!!))
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To: SierraWasp
kook (Keeper Of Odd Knowledge)

ROFL!!!!

44 posted on 03/26/2006 12:44:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: SierraWasp
They are talking about that in the Blogosphere....item (one of many )here:

Friday, March 24, 2006
Criswell predicts ...

************AN EXCERPT ********************

Update

The other striking thing in Document CMPC-2003-001950 was why the Russians should be particularly worried about the smallest component of the deployment:

4- The ambassador pointed that what worried us (most probably “us” refers to the Russians) was the increase in the number of planes in Jordan where the number of planes in Al Sallt base was as follows: 24 planes F-16 10 planes Tornado 11 planes Harrier He also mentioned that there were 10 A-10 tank destroyers in the Jordanian base of King Faysal.

Why were these relatively small forces so worrisome? My guess is their location near the Iraq-Syrian border and the composition of these air units were suggestive of support for an air assault attack on traffic to and from Syria. What was moving between Iraq and Syria that would be of concern to the Russians?

45 posted on 03/26/2006 12:49:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: SierraWasp

>> "...rootin tootin boot skootin Putin's soul "

You certainly have a way with words!
As to your theory, it wouldn't surprise me although I didn't follow the specifics closely.


46 posted on 03/26/2006 1:07:52 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Wull... I loves wurds!!! Stately ones and slovenly wuns... all the way from highrowglyfics to ebonics... I loves 'em!!! I loves messin wif 'em, too!!!

By the way... the CA situation is just getting so depressing and demoralizing I can hardly stand those threads anymore, especially with the koolaid inhalers... they gag me!!! (not sayin I won't be back, just waitin for my stomach to settledown, I guess)

47 posted on 03/26/2006 4:04:04 PM PST by SierraWasp (Without knowing the force of words, it is impossible to know man!!! (or especially Waspman!!!))
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To: SierraWasp
I agree it's depressing, and demoralizing. But we need to show up in force in June and November. Regardless of how ugly the top of the ticket looks, there are some solid down-ticket conservatives that need our support! Hey, weren't you the one givin' me a peptalk a while back? LOL.
48 posted on 03/26/2006 4:07:46 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: SierraWasp
Am I the only kook (Keeper Of Odd Knowledge) that still remembers that band of about 5 or 6 Russians (supposed diplomats) that got hit and killed just north of Baghdad..."

Foggy Bottom no doubt sent formal letters of apology along with assurances that we love and trust our Russian "friends".

49 posted on 03/26/2006 6:26:29 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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I just got a reminder from a relative, who is lurker about a previous FR thread on the Russian involvement in Iraq before our invasion in 2003.

'We didn't fly to Baghdad to drink coffee' (Former Russian Generals help Iraq prepare for war)
Gazeta.ru ^ | 04/02/03 | Alexander Kornilov


Posted on 04/02/2003 4:02:24 PM PST by Smogger




Gazeta.Ru has obtained sensational evidence proving the involvement of a group of former Soviet generals in preparing the Iraqi army for war against the United States. The generals in question refused to discuss their degree of involvement, but admitted that just before the beginning of the US-led campaign against Iraq they received state awards from the Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

Photos, which Gazeta.Ru has acquired, show an awards ceremony (namely awards, our sources emphasized, and not gifts), involving two very prominent Russian generals.

They are retired Soviet officers, Col.-Gen. Vladimir Achalov and Col.-Gen. Igor Maltsev. The former completed his military career as the Soviet deputy defence minister, after being the Air-Borne Troops commander and the first and last Soviet commander-in-chief of the rapid-reaction forces. The latter resigned from the post of the chief of the Main Staff of the Soviet Air Defence. In 1991 both generals backed the GKChP, (the State Committee for the State of Emergency, set up by a group of Gorbachev opponents with the goal of supplanting him and preventing the disintegration of the USSR) and were consequently dismissed from military service.

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50 posted on 04/11/2006 3:01:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Donate to Free Republic now, not tomorrow: [https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate]))
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