"Are you talking about me?"
Posted on 03/25/2006 10:19:43 PM PST by ncountylee
THE career of President Vladimir Putin of Russia was built at least in part on a lie, according to US researchers. A new study of an economics thesis written by Putin in the mid-1990s has revealed that large chunks of it were copied from an American text.
Putin was labelled a plagiarist yesterday after a pair of researchers at the Brookings Institution, a Washington DC think tank, established that the Russian president’s academic credentials were based on a dissertation he had lifted in part verbatim from the Russian translation of a management study written by two professors at the University of Pittsburgh in 1978.
According to the Kremlin’s official biography, Putin, 53, obtained a PhD in economics from the St Petersburg Mining Institute in 1997. But the US researchers also established that his thesis was for a lesser degree that would not have entitled him to a full doctorate.
The embarrassing revelation that Putin, a former KGB agent, may have cheated and lied about his qualifications follows a long search by US scholars for evidence of the president’s academic prowess. A copy of the thesis was eventually located in the electronic files of a Moscow technical library.
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Run Joe, run.
His whole life is based on cheating and lies. What's a little doctoring on a ph.d thesis?
"Are you talking about me?"
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Ripping off American research is a timeless Russian tradition... after all isn't the greatest Russian inventor Regus Patoff?
"the issue is not taken especially seriously in Russia, which is second only to China as a producer of pirated copyright goods..."
You're right.. in addition...I worked in research laboratory.. we made program, technology of extraction Scandium..21-st element of periodic table..all work had been done by Mikhail Klushnikov..Soviet government gave to him "State premium".. but when I looked at newspaper informantion about it...ten persons from Ministry, main institute etc were listed as competitor... Mikhail Klushnikom was last in the end of list
What you want from Putin?
He was communist..it means he was complete scoundrel (bastad) and no more...
You're right.. in addition...I worked in research laboratory.. we made program, technology of extraction Scandium..21-st element of periodic table..all work had been done by Mikhail Klushnikov..Soviet government gave to him "State premium".. but when I looked at newspaper informantion about it...ten persons from Ministry, main institute etc were listed as competitor... Mikhail Klushnikom was last in the end of list
What you want from Putin?
He was communist..it means he was complete scoundrel (bastad) and no more...
It's a trend that continues today - the quickest way to get the coveted "red diploma" (with honors) is to ensure your board gets cake, vodka, or other "tributes" when you're defending your thesis. Plus, you can buy an advanced degree from just about any well-known university down in the perekhod at the end of Staryj Arbat.
That Putin, or anyone else graduating from a Soviet or Post-Soviet university may have cheated is not in the least surprising. It'd happen more here in the US if it was easier to get away with.
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Even after the West began to loosen restrictions on research, and Gorbachev initiated a so-called policy of "glasnost" the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism.
About AD 1400 Duke Louis of Orleans was complaining about the infestation of "people of low degrees and doubtful birth". Not much has changed since.
"THE career of President Vladimir Putin of Russia was built at least in part on a lie, according to US researchers. A new study of an economics
thesis written by Putin in the mid-1990s has revealed that large chunks of it were copied from an American text.
Putin was labelled a plagiarist yesterday after a pair of researchers at the Brookings Institution, a Washington DC think tank, established that the Russian president’s academic credentials were based on a dissertation he had lifted in part verbatim from the Russian translation of a management study written by two professors at the University of Pittsburgh in 1978."
Actually, in the KGB, a performance like this is considered a plus.
"Reading Vasili Mitrokhin and Christopher Andrew's archives of Soviet documents gives you the impression that the USSR's effectiveness and efficiency at espionage wasn't matched by a commensurate desire on the part of the Soviet leadership to foster the sort of values that spur scientific and technological achievement.
Even after the West began to loosen restrictions on research, and Gorbachev initiated a so-called policy of "glasnost" the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism."
I don't know who Christopher Andrews is, but I never liked Mitrokhen much as a source. Not enough to meat there for a man who was supposedly involved with administering the KGB archives. Nor is his story credible. Trucking around copies of KGB files and storing them in his farm for a decade or wherever it was.
"Even after the West began to loosen restrictions on research, and Gorbachev initiated a so-called policy of "glasnost" the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism."
Actually, it seems to me that the US has been surprised by the effectiveness of some Soviet weapons that have appeared in recent years. They seem to be copying some of the stuff that stolen pretty well---and even adding some clever twists sometimes. I don't know weaponry well so I'll admit I can't come up with any specific examples. Perhaps I can be commented on by others.
"Even after the West began to loosen restrictions on research, and Gorbachev initiated a so-called policy of "glasnost" the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism."
In addition, as Golitsyn (high-ranking KGB defector, 1961) has explained in great detail, Stalinism was completely dead by 1957---in no way did it last 50 years. Having completely terminated Stalinism, however, the international Communist movement (in a series of meetings in Moscow in in 1957 through 1960) decided to fake its continuation---for the benefit of the West.
One key aspect of Stalinism was Stalin's idea that Russia had to completely dominate all the Communist parties of the world. This is led to the break with China. This break, however, was completely patched up in the 1957 to 1960 meetings. However, the two countries decided to continue their dispute on a fake level to suck in the U. S.---which worked, according to Golitsyn---when Nixon went to China around 1970 or so.
By opposing Nixon's move, Golitsyn undermined his own credibility in the US government and became effectively exiled from the US intelligence community.
The byproducts of Stalinism.
The purges and witch-hunts conducted by Andropov as head of the KGB, and the endless expansionism embodied by the Brezhnev Doctrine, were expressions of Stalinism, even if it went by a different name.
The refusal to abide by the protocols of the Helsinki Accords, persecuting political dissidents and/or refuseniks like Natan Sharansky and Andrei Sakharov, artistic/literary giants like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nureyev, Mikhail Baryshnikov, etc., these were all manifestations of a condition known as Leninsim/Stalinism, which the Soviet Union never completely abandoned.
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