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Kiss Me, I'm Illegal
NY Times ^ | 3/26/6 | Paul Vitello

Posted on 03/26/2006 11:09:56 AM PST by Crackingham

Murky self-described patriot groups call them "terrorists." On combative talk radio shows the term is "illegal aliens." Advocates for immigrants prefer the Emma Lazarus-evoking "economic refugees." The most common label attached to the estimated 12 million foreign-born people living in the United States without visas may be "illegal immigrants," even though some grammarians argue that the adjective can modify actions and things (like left turns and hallucinogenic drugs) but not people. President Bush, a proponent of offering citizenship to at least some of them, has used the more optimistic and implicitly promising term "undocumented immigrants."

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Tumbling in the air of the debate like so many juggled balls are enough words and catch phrases — some old, some new — to form a peculiar dialect of the national ambivalence: Guest workers. Willing workers. America's security. Permanent temporary residents. Immigrant smuggling syndicate. Earned legalization. Virtual fence. Birthright citizenship abuse (coined by lawmakers who would cancel the citizenship rights of children born here to illegal immigrants). Anchor babies (the term coined for such children). Police state (what Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York says would result if illegal immigration were criminalized). Two-time losers (Justice Antonin Scalia's phrase for illegal immigrants who are deported twice — one such immigrant brought a case heard by the court last week).

George Lakoff, a linguistics professor at the University of California at Berkeley and author of "Don't Think of an Elephant: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate," says the different language used in any public policy debate is ultimately a contest for the public mind. "Metaphors repeated often enough eventually become part of your physical brain," he said. "Use the word 'illegal' often enough, which suggests criminal, which suggests immoral, and you have framed the issue of immigration to a remarkable degree."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bodersecurity; border; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration

1 posted on 03/26/2006 11:09:59 AM PST by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

FRONT DOOR OR BE BOOTED!


2 posted on 03/26/2006 11:10:55 AM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: Crackingham

Great title! and the NYT allowed it!


3 posted on 03/26/2006 11:17:32 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Crackingham
Murky self-described patriot groups call them "terrorists."

Not surprisingly for the Times, two lies in the first sentence.

4 posted on 03/26/2006 11:20:34 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Crackingham
Advocates for immigrants prefer the Emma Lazarus-evoking "economic refugees."

BARF!!!!!

5 posted on 03/26/2006 11:23:12 AM PST by guestfox01
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To: Crackingham
On combative talk radio shows the term is "illegal aliens."

Ummm...in reality it's "ilegal aliens," too.

6 posted on 03/26/2006 11:23:40 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Crackingham
"Metaphors repeated often enough eventually become part of your physical brain," he said. "Use the word 'illegal' often enough, which suggests criminal, which suggests immoral, and you have framed the issue of immigration to a remarkable degree.""

Precisely!

Good article.

7 posted on 03/26/2006 11:27:57 AM PST by TAdams8591
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To: Crackingham
George Lakoff, a linguistics professor at the University of California at Berkeley and author of "Don't Think of an Elephant: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate," says the different language used in any public policy debate is ultimately a contest for the public mind. "Metaphors repeated often enough eventually become part of your physical brain," he said. "Use the word 'illegal' often enough, which suggests criminal, which suggests immoral, and you have framed the issue of immigration to a remarkable degree."

So...they violate the law to come here, but that doesn't make it "illegal." The best sign the Dem party is on its way to the dustbin of history is the fact that they think this Lakoff guy is going to help them win elections. All he's going to do is help cement the public perception of the Dems as the party of weasel words.

8 posted on 03/26/2006 11:31:13 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Crackingham

Passive agressive invasion....always works against the angst ridden....with pseudo Christian morals....

One born every minute and two to take em...

Americans better get hard fast...or get gone


9 posted on 03/26/2006 11:44:17 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: Crackingham

More bullshit and outright lies from the NYT.


10 posted on 03/26/2006 12:01:54 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Crackingham; HiJinx; gubamyster
B>Ya viene la Guerra Civil Dos.


11 posted on 03/26/2006 12:19:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: joesnuffy
400,000 criminal invaders marching in Los Angeles equals what, 30 enemy divisions?

Even if only ten percent of them will fight, that is 40,000 enemy, armed with rifles, pistols and firebombs, when CW2 begins.

Our major cities will look like Fallujah....unless we simply surrender.

12 posted on 03/26/2006 12:22:01 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Crackingham
The strategy of "immigrants" is strange --they show up chattering in Spanish and waving MEXICAN flags.

What is the message they get in Peoria? That we are FLOODED with illegals.

I sure hope these activists really open the floodgates of their activist passion!

13 posted on 03/26/2006 1:04:40 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Travis McGee

Just wait until Orbidor takes over Mexico. These illegals could become a real thorn in our side if Orbidor calls for gurellia warfare.


14 posted on 03/26/2006 2:08:06 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Travis McGee

And they will be armed by Venezuela, which in turn gets weapons from the future USSR2 and the PRC.


15 posted on 03/26/2006 2:08:51 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Cicero
Great title! and the NYT allowed it!

*shurg* It started out as 'Kiss My Ass, I'm Illegal'...

16 posted on 03/26/2006 2:12:51 PM PST by null and void (Perhaps hating America is for those for whom hating Jews just isn't enough. - Philippe Roger)
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To: null and void
*sigh SHRUG

Preview is my friend.
Preview is my friend.
Preview is my friend.
Preview is my friend.
Preview is my friend.

17 posted on 03/26/2006 2:14:58 PM PST by null and void (Perhaps hating America is for those for whom hating Jews just isn't enough. - Philippe Roger)
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To: Travis McGee

Well come on in..the waters warm!


18 posted on 03/26/2006 2:18:57 PM PST by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Crackingham
There are many laws which have historically only been enforced when lawbreakers draw attention to themselves. For example, many campuses had a policy that they would not crack down on underage drinking unless underage drinkers caused problems. Enforcement of things like sodomy laws would have been done on a similar basis.

While it might have been better for the laws to explicitly state that people should not be prosecuted if their actions only came to the attention of police as a result of factors beyond their control, I don't think that the tacit acceptance of lawbreaking in cases such as those undermined the social order.

On the other hand, when illegal aliens openly flaunt the fact that they're illegal, failure to immediately round them up and deport them does undermine the social order and rule of law. Failure to act against such brazen and overt lawbreaking represents a clear unwillingness to enforce the law. How can a country hope to enforce its laws if it isn't even willing to act against those who make such a public spectacle of their disobedience?

19 posted on 03/26/2006 2:23:14 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Travis McGee

In one article about yesterdays showing in L.A., "Elger Aloy, 26, of Riverside, a premed student, pushed a stroller with his 8-month-old son at Saturday’s Los Angeles march.
“I think it’s just inhumane. ... Everybody deserves the right to a better life,” Aloy said of the legislation."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442705/

Any bets this 26 year old opposes our efforts in giving the Iraqis a chance at a better life without being under the thumb of a brutal dictator?


20 posted on 03/26/2006 2:34:46 PM PST by DakotaRed
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To: Crackingham
Note to self:

Twice a week visits to the range is now prudent.

21 posted on 03/26/2006 2:40:35 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Travis McGee
400,000 criminal invaders marching in Los Angeles equals what, 30 enemy divisions?

I am sure that they will have "force multipliers" meanwhile the American patriot will continue to be disarmed by the one world traitors in office regardless of party

22 posted on 03/26/2006 4:26:40 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: Travis McGee
400,000 criminal invaders marching in Los Angeles equals what, 30 enemy divisions?

I am sure that they will have "force multipliers" meanwhile the American patriot will continue to be disarmed by the one world traitors in office regardless of party

23 posted on 03/26/2006 4:26:43 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: Travis McGee
that is 40,000...

Which is, coincidentally, just about the number of active gang members in LA county.

And then there's this:

"...some gangs actually direct members to join the military to learn how to handle weapons. "The intelligence that we have thus far indicates that they may try to recruit young people who have clean records and encourage them to keep their record clean to get into the military. They would get great weapons training and other types of training and access to weapons and arms, and be able to use that knowledge," she said. "They're taking training that is great and very altruistic and turning around and using it for criminal activity."

Source is here: http://www.nysun.com/article/29230

24 posted on 03/26/2006 4:33:13 PM PST by absalom01 (NRA,CRPA)
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To: absalom01; vrwc0915

Winds of CW2 stirring.....


25 posted on 03/26/2006 8:19:08 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee; All

26 posted on 03/26/2006 10:29:50 PM PST by vrwc0915
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