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In Spaghetti Monster they trust
Kentucky.com ^ | Mar. 25, 2006 | By Jim Beckerman

Posted on 03/26/2006 6:26:35 PM PST by MRMEAN

Is God a flying ball of pasta? It's one theory -- just like intelligent design

KNIGHT RIDDER NEWS SERVICE

HACKENSACK, N.J. - Unlike a certain other religion in the news, the First United Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't object to cartoon depictions of the supreme being.

For one thing, he's easy to draw: a tangle of pasta strands with a meatball body.

In some pictures, he is shown reaching out to confer the blessings of life and happiness with what church members like to refer to as his "noodly appendage."

Flying Spaghetti Monster could be the next big thing on the pop culture menu.

His al dente visage can be seen on T-shirts, coffee mugs, magnets, flags, computer games. His Buitoni No. 10 tentacles can be seen reaching out to Adam in a Photoshop version of Michelangelo's Creation, and to the disciples in Da Vinci's Last Supper. "Flying Spaghetti Monster Bless America" appears on bumper stickers.

He even has his own Bible: The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, to be published Tuesday from Random House. It's written by his foremost prophet, Bobby Henderson, who launched this satiric dig at so-called intelligent design about a year ago, and lived to see it take on a life of its own.

"It's amazing that a satirical monster could get this big, but then, he did create the universe," says Dee Dee McKinney, content administrator for the FSM online discussion forum and the reclusive Henderson's primary mouthpiece.

Henderson, a 25-year-old physicist and graduate of Oregon State University, conceived of the Flying Spaghetti Monster last year as a reductio ad absurdum of the intelligent design argument for inclusion in curriculums.

According to intelligent design boosters, since evolution is only a "theory" and not provable, an alternative -- that the universe was created by an intelligent designer -- should be given equal time in science classes.

The "alternative" they presumably had in mind was Christianity.

But, said Henderson to some chums over beers, by the same logic the "intelligent designer" could just as easily be, say, a Flying Spaghetti Monster.

It was only a short step to what happened next.

Last summer, as the Kansas School Board was having a fierce debate over whether information about intelligent design should be required in public school curriculums (in November, the board voted 6-4 in favor), board members received an odd letter:

"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of intelligent design," it read in part. "I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. ... It is for this reason that I'm writing you today, to formally request that this alternative theory be taught in your schools, along with the other two theories."

Members of the Dover, Pa., school board, voted out of office in November for supporting a measure similar to Kansas', also heard from the Spaghetti Monster.

But Henderson didn't stop with letters. He also created a Web site, venganza.org, as a rallying place for what were quickly dubbed "Pastafarians." While there are officially 3,332 "church" members worldwide, based on online response, the real number is doubtless much higher, McKinney says.

"We got one e-mail from a guy from Italy, who speaks almost no English, who wants to start a European seminary to train priests for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster," McKinney says. "The fact is, we don't have a priesthood. Our church is a very bottom-up structure."

Some Pastafarians are just people looking for the Next Big Quirky Thing -- the kind of free spirits who gravitate to things like the Church of the Subgenius or the Church of Stop Shopping.

Others are students -- sincerely troubled by the rise of fundamentalism and its impact on education.

"I think it's a brilliant concept, and I've been trying to promote the idea," says David Linley, a 15-year-old high school student who discovered the Web site in October.

"I've just been disgusted by some of the pseudo-science I've seen," Linley says. Finding the site, he says, was a "wake-up call."

In addition to keeping tabs on the anti-science right and hawking various Flying Spaghetti Monster paraphernalia, the site also lampoons the kind of pseudo-science, bolstered by dubious charts and graphs, favored by creationists in books like Of Pandas and People.

One favorite chart correlates the rise of global warming with the decline of pirates. That explains the "pirate" iconography -- eye patches and cutlasses -- that goes hand-in-noodle with the church's spaghetti-and-meatball motif.

Naturally, the Web site gets plenty of hate mail from the devout. "You're an idiot. I'll pray for you," one message read.

"They send Bobby threatening letters, they curse him, they call him a blankety-blankety-blank-blank," McKinney says. "And at the end, they say God loves him."

Most people -- pro and con -- assume that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the creation of atheists, or at the very least agnostics.

Actually, McKinney is a Christian, and Henderson won't say one way or the other.

"It's appalling what has been done and what has happened to my religion in the name of politics," McKinney says.

With the money from the Spaghetti Monster book, McKinney says, the "church" is planning its major investment: a pirate ship that can go from port to port, spreading the word about His Noodleness.

"It would go from place to place, so (church) members could come to visit," McKinney says. "And they're hoping to make cannons. Some say it should fire T-shirts. The other half say it should be meatballs." email this print this


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1 posted on 03/26/2006 6:26:39 PM PST by MRMEAN
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To: MRMEAN

2 posted on 03/26/2006 6:34:15 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MRMEAN

I see they are faithfull believers in pasta?


3 posted on 03/26/2006 6:35:52 PM PST by DurtySanches (Army 8 Yale 0)
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To: MRMEAN

Well, it makes as much sense as Darwin's General Theory of Evolution.

Ooops! Did I say that?


4 posted on 03/26/2006 6:37:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Or the Cult of the Nazarene.


5 posted on 03/26/2006 6:38:26 PM PST by dyed_in_the_wool ("O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends" - Koran 5.51)
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To: MRMEAN
Click Here for more

6 posted on 03/26/2006 6:38:28 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: PatrickHenry

May you be touched by His noodly appendage.....


7 posted on 03/26/2006 6:44:23 PM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: Fiddlstix

Hmmm, based on that picture I have to believe Flying Spaghetti Monster is, in fact, Azathoth.


8 posted on 03/26/2006 6:44:36 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: MRMEAN
PROOF!!!

Doubters see for yourselves!.....behold.......

http://www.venganza.org/images/fsm-spotting.mpg

Arrrrrrrg matey.


9 posted on 03/26/2006 6:47:24 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: MRMEAN

I'm amazed this got so much press. It goes to show there is an active hostility in the media for anything that begins to give God any credit.


10 posted on 03/26/2006 6:48:14 PM PST by dan1123
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To: MRMEAN

It is amazing what people will think of these days.


11 posted on 03/26/2006 6:51:19 PM PST by PilotMountainGirl
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To: MRMEAN

Just another thing Creationists and vegans will unite to oppose.


12 posted on 03/26/2006 6:53:33 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Red meat, we were meant to eat it - Meat and Livestock Australia TV ad campaign)
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To: MRMEAN
"It's appalling what has been done and what has happened to my religion in the name of politics," McKinney says.

Really, then maybe his next media push should combat global warming, faked stem cell research, or junk studies claiming conservatives are mentally ill. But I think he's just a liberal, that made this up because he can't stand religious conservatives.
13 posted on 03/26/2006 6:53:40 PM PST by dan1123
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To: MRMEAN

14 posted on 03/26/2006 6:54:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: dyed_in_the_wool

Nazarenes are no cult. They're conservative Methodists, more or less. Old fashioned Nazarenes mostly disapprove of going to movies, which seems odd to me, but they might have a point.

Here's a link: http://www.epinions.com/content_2721620100

-Dave


15 posted on 03/26/2006 6:54:11 PM PST by ncdave4life
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To: dyed_in_the_wool

It's a bit disingenous to call 2+ billion people part of a cult isn't it? Compared to the number of those that believe we came from monkeys?


16 posted on 03/26/2006 6:55:20 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: longshadow
May you be touched by His noodly appendage.....

Sounds like bad porn.

17 posted on 03/26/2006 6:55:59 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: MRMEAN

I heard this guy on the Phil Hendrie show.


18 posted on 03/26/2006 6:56:13 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 119:97-176)
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To: billbears

"...that believe we came from monkeys?"

Common ancestor actually, not "came from".



19 posted on 03/26/2006 6:57:02 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: MRMEAN
I'm sure this young fellow will have a fine life. After all, he's got it all figured out at the mature age of 25 with some fine tuition receipts to put on his wall.
20 posted on 03/26/2006 6:58:21 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Whatever. Same difference. I personally have no common ancestor with a monkey. God made one and then he made Man separately. I don't believe in the 'young earth' theory but I don't believe I share ancestry with an ape


21 posted on 03/26/2006 6:59:51 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
Evolution Ping

The List-O-Links
A conservative, pro-evolution science list, now with over 360 names.
See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped.
To assist beginners: But it's "just a theory", Evo-Troll's Toolkit,
and How to argue against a scientific theory.

22 posted on 03/26/2006 7:01:15 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: billbears

And if you actually studied evolution, you'd know that's not what it says. So how did God make modern man? Conjur him out of thin air?


23 posted on 03/26/2006 7:02:14 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: PatrickHenry

First one to mention the Pastafarian term. ;-)


24 posted on 03/26/2006 7:03:02 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: MRMEAN
In the name of the pasta
And of the sauce
And the Holy meatballs

Ramen.

25 posted on 03/26/2006 7:04:06 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: dan1123
It goes to show there is an active hostility in the media for anything that begins to give God any credit.

Or anything remotely rooted in Judaic culture... the war against Genesis... dopers, murderers, leftists, homosexuals and other perverts...

26 posted on 03/26/2006 7:05:54 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: dan1123
I'm amazed this got so much press. It goes to show there is an active hostility in the media for anything that begins to give God any credit.

I think the FSM is more of a reaction to ID trying to wedge its way into the classrooms under the guise of science.

"If that version of ID is acceptable, then why not FSM?"

At least, that's the way I see it. ;-)

27 posted on 03/26/2006 7:06:22 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: BenLurkin

Gives you a bit of a turn on, does it?


28 posted on 03/26/2006 7:06:26 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: MRMEAN

If you're too stupid to understand Darwin, then the Flying Spaghetti Monster makes as much sense as anything else you'll find in church, on Art Bell, or in the new age or philosophy section of a paperback bookstore.


29 posted on 03/26/2006 7:08:13 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
I hear you. Give him 25 more years and see what he thinks.

"If you really want to know something, ask a young person. They know everything."
Supposedly an old Indian saying, but I wonder.

30 posted on 03/26/2006 7:08:21 PM PST by labette (Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?)
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To: BenLurkin

31 posted on 03/26/2006 7:09:57 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MRMEAN
"Pastafarians."

I could do this. LOL. My favorite food by far. From angel hair to orecchiette, I'm devoted.

I've read through this article twice and still I'm not sure if this guy is being sarcastic or just being a nut. I guess I'll side with nut with too much time on his hands.

Pasta is one of the better gifts from heaven but that's as far as it goes. I'm hard pressed to worship lasagne, no matter how tastey.

32 posted on 03/26/2006 7:09:59 PM PST by lizma
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To: Cicero
Well, it makes as much sense as Darwin's General Theory of Evolution.

As opposed to what? Darwin's Special Theory of Evolution?

33 posted on 03/26/2006 7:12:08 PM PST by Bubbatuck
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
How does the religion of evolutionism feel if it is taught life came from outer space???

That is right, they already teach the Big Bang theory!

34 posted on 03/26/2006 7:12:21 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Coyoteman

FSM is much more plausable.

I demand the Flying Spaghetti Monster creation story be taught in public schools!


35 posted on 03/26/2006 7:12:33 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Stunned, he asked: "What do you call your act?" "The Aristocrats!")
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To: Dog Gone

How does the religion of evolutionism feel if it is taught life came from outer space???

That is right, they already teach the Big Bang theory!


36 posted on 03/26/2006 7:15:11 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Dog Gone

37 posted on 03/26/2006 7:15:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
God Created all the animals, and gave Adam dominion over them.

I'm too lazy to get out my Bible and quote it exact, but y'all know what I mean.

38 posted on 03/26/2006 7:16:43 PM PST by PilotMountainGirl
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To: PatrickHenry

I thought I was just pinged to the evo-list...

This addresses evolutionary theory about as much as John Kerry addresses his voting record (they both mock their opponents without mentioning their standpoint).


39 posted on 03/26/2006 7:18:18 PM PST by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: Junior

http://www.fbchiram.com/templates/col28or/details.asp?id=20519&PID=92936


40 posted on 03/26/2006 7:19:05 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

I guess the appropriate response to that would be-

Ok, reproduce the results that "prove" we evolved.


41 posted on 03/26/2006 7:20:03 PM PST by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: billbears
It's a bit disingenous to call 2+ billion people part of a cult isn't it? Compared to the number of those that believe we came from monkeys?

What makes you think the two are incompatible?

42 posted on 03/26/2006 7:20:29 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Evolution and the Big Bang theory are not even in related sciences or dependent on each other.

That could be difficult to comprehend if your mindset is that the entire universe was created 6,000 years ago.


43 posted on 03/26/2006 7:21:42 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Junior

Hehe, you're going to Hell, but at least you'll make us laugh here. :)


44 posted on 03/26/2006 7:22:13 PM PST by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: Junior
"What makes you think the two are incompatible?"

Considering the fact that the Catholic Church (1 Billion+) teaches that the two are not incompatible, I think you're posing a very good question.
45 posted on 03/26/2006 7:23:24 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: Cyclopean Squid

"Hmmm, based on that picture I have to believe Flying Spaghetti Monster is, in fact, Azathoth."

Egad man! You have NAMED him! Do you what kind of trouble you're in now?


46 posted on 03/26/2006 7:25:54 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Coyoteman
I think the FSM is more of a reaction to ID trying to wedge its way into the classrooms under the guise of science. "If that version of ID is acceptable, then why not FSM?" At least, that's the way I see it. ;-)

Except that FSM is a subset of ID, not an alternative to it.

47 posted on 03/26/2006 7:27:12 PM PST by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: MacDorcha
Hehe, you're going to Hell...

I should be in damned fine company...

48 posted on 03/26/2006 7:27:54 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Sloth
"Except that FSM is a subset of ID, not an alternative to it."

From the perspective of pure ID, FSM, Raelianism, and Scientology are each as likely and possible as Genesis.

I should think it would be downright offensive for believers in the Bible to find their faith placed on the same level as L. Ron Hubbard's cult.
49 posted on 03/26/2006 7:31:17 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: dan1123

dan1123 wrote:
> there is an active hostility in the media for anything
> that begins to give God any credit.

I think you're mostly right, Dan. But it isn't all religions they are mocking. "First United Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" is mocking Christianity, specifically.

There is a remarkable hostility toward Christianity among the liberal institutions in America, such as academia, the press, and (north of the Mason-Dixon line) the Democrat Party. Oddly enough, they do not demonstrate the same hostility toward other religions.

You'll never hear them criticize the Dalai Lama. They think feng shui is interesting. Even L. Ron Hubbard is tolerated.

They can't even muster much outrage at Muslim terrorism, and they are horrified at the "blasphemy" of depicting Muhammad in a cartoon, and think it is understandable that the "Muslim street" would erupt in riots as a result of an obscure Danish newspaper printing such cartoons.

They don't hate Muhammad or Confucius or Buddha. It is Christ, alone, that they hate. But He told us they would:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015:18

-Dave
dave07 at burtonsys dot com but please no spam


50 posted on 03/26/2006 7:32:22 PM PST by ncdave4life
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