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Bush: Immigrants Are Not a Threat
reuters ^ | 3/27/06

Posted on 03/27/2006 12:42:08 PM PST by mathprof

President George W. Bush, warned the U.S. Congress against fearmongering on Monday as the Senate tackled immigration reform, an issue that has split his Republican party and spurred huge protests.

``The immigration debate should be conducted in a civil and dignified way,'' Bush said, pushing his own proposals at a swearing-in ceremony for 30 new American citizens.

With his job approval rating at the lowest of his presidency, Bush faces a new test of his political strength on the divisive immigration issue.

``No one should play on people's fears or try to pit neighbors against each other,'' he said. ``No one should pretend that immigrants are a threat to American identity, because immigrants have shaped America's identity.''

The public is divided between those who favor curbing illegal immigration with tighter border security and tougher enforcement and those who say it is essential to bring some 12 million illegal workers out of the shadows with a comprehensive overhaul.

Bush has stuck to his three-part plan -- border security, stronger enforcement and a temporary worker proposal, a legal way to fill the jobs that Americans are unwilling to do.

The Senate Judiciary Committee also opened its hearings to craft broad bipartisan legislation that would tighten border security and make it a criminal misdemeanor to be in the country illegally. It too would establish a temporary worker program and provide a way for some of the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country to legalize their status.

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1 posted on 03/27/2006 12:42:10 PM PST by mathprof
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Except for the ones smuggling in shoulder fired anti-aircraft rockets and a whole host of other things that go boom into the country...sure...no danger at all...


2 posted on 03/27/2006 12:43:50 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: mathprof

3 posted on 03/27/2006 12:43:52 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: mathprof

Ok "W" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 03/27/2006 12:44:08 PM PST by jlasoon
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To: mathprof

5 posted on 03/27/2006 12:45:02 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Liberal idiots are more than willing to allow people to die for their stupid idealistic notions)
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To: mathprof

When illegal aliens can march by the hundreds of thousands in an American city waving the flag of Mexico, making demands on this country and nothing is done about it, I call that a threat.


6 posted on 03/27/2006 12:45:04 PM PST by rushmom (l)
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To: mathprof

Amazing, Bush refusing to even utter the word "illegal".


7 posted on 03/27/2006 12:45:08 PM PST by blaquebyrd
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To: mathprof
a legal way to fill the jobs that Americans are unwilling to do.

If you are gonna pay a wage that only an illegal immigrant would find attractive, why should you expect Americans to sign up?
8 posted on 03/27/2006 12:45:12 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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""``The immigration debate should be conducted in a civil and dignified way,'' Bush said, pushing his own proposals at a swearing-in ceremony for 30 new American citizens.""

Gosh, a brave reporter would have quizzed the newly sworn in what they thought about Bush's amnesty program!

P.S. Is Bush going to continue hitting the "civil" insults or talk plainly about his wage depression policy?


9 posted on 03/27/2006 12:46:02 PM PST by Shermy
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To: jlasoon

There goes W's re-election hopes /sarc.


11 posted on 03/27/2006 12:46:23 PM PST by groovejedi
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To: mathprof
"No one should pretend that immigrants are a threat to American identity, because immigrants have shaped America's identity."

This may be, but illegal immigrants are a clear and present danger to this country.

This is a setup for the vetoing of HR 4437 (if it passes both houses), just watch.

12 posted on 03/27/2006 12:46:55 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

If a competetive, market wage is offered, all kind of college students, high school students, people moving off of Welfare, etc. will take those jobs.


13 posted on 03/27/2006 12:47:12 PM PST by rushmom (l)
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To: mathprof
Certainly not a threat to the many limousine liberals, big business chiselers and urban yuppies who refuse to hire black Americans to do low skilled jobs.

The elites definitely prefer brown faces to black ones in their homes and sweatshops.
14 posted on 03/27/2006 12:47:29 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: mathprof

Ten Years Ago: "payroll premiums"=more taxes
Today: "immigration debate"=illegal alien crisis


15 posted on 03/27/2006 12:47:37 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: groovejedi

Whoever hopes to be the GOP candidate in '08 would be well advised to get on the right side of this issue.


16 posted on 03/27/2006 12:47:54 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mathprof

My tag says it all...


17 posted on 03/27/2006 12:48:26 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: mathprof

Bush should just enforce the law and shut up.


18 posted on 03/27/2006 12:48:55 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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Note to President Bush: YES, IT IS


19 posted on 03/27/2006 12:48:59 PM PST by Shimmer128
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To: groovejedi

"There goes W's re-election hopes /sarc."

The funny thing is he thinks, or Rove told him, that he's helping Repub. chances in November. The repubs will have to struggle harder to get out the word they're not with him.
I don't think any but Tancredo are brave enough to say a public "no" to Bush.


20 posted on 03/27/2006 12:49:01 PM PST by Shermy
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To: mathprof

he's partially right. immigrants are not a threat to identity. ILLEGAL immigrants are the threat. immigrants come over and are willing to conform to american ways. ILLEGAL immigrants come over to leach off the system and demand it comform to them.


22 posted on 03/27/2006 12:49:35 PM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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I guess I'm not sure where I first heard the description of the Hispanic illegal aliens as as Mexican colonists, but that mob in southern California surely fit the definition. A nation that can't control its border isn't a sovereign nation. I fail to see the difference between a nation that cannot control its border from one that refuses to do so.


23 posted on 03/27/2006 12:49:37 PM PST by stevem
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"No one should pretend that immigrants are a threat to American identity"

Has Bush ever been to the cesspool that is Mexico? Has Bush ever really talked to illegals? He is selling out the working class people of the US like a good patrician.

24 posted on 03/27/2006 12:50:15 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: mathprof

This issue should be so clear to the president. How can he not see it?

What was it President Reagan used to say?: "A country that cannot defend its borders is not a country."


25 posted on 03/27/2006 12:51:33 PM PST by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: mathprof
We need a new term that refers to Bush as the lesser evil that he is.

"President Better Than Kerry" or something.

26 posted on 03/27/2006 12:51:54 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: mathprof
"fill the jobs that Americans are unwilling to do. "

Whoever makes this statement is a liar. Whoever believes this statement is self delusional.

A true statement would be "fill the jobs that Americans are unwilling to do at the wages currently being offered."

27 posted on 03/27/2006 12:52:21 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: mathprof
It's stunning that President Bush can't see the damage this horde of illegals is creating. Homes on the borders routinely vandalized, hospitals bankrupted, violent crime up, Mexican illegals openly defying our laws and parading around the country waving Mexican flags. He certainly has the courage of his convictions, but on this issue his convictions are wrong.

In the next election I'll be voting for the candidates most determined to stop this illegal migration into our country.

28 posted on 03/27/2006 12:53:42 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: mathprof

After the Dudai thing, can Bush do anything more to alienate people? Yes, this illegal alien matter.

The dems are worse, and I think most people realize that and will vote Rep. However... Jeez, what a mess.


29 posted on 03/27/2006 12:53:51 PM PST by ConTex
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With people in poverty in this country, I find the phrase "jobs Americans are unwilling to do" to be an insulting disaster. We have some damn hard working people in this country, you mean NO ONE will do landscaping, work as a nanny, etc.??? This is just absurd nonsense.

MAYBE you could say there is at times a labor shortage. But unwilling? This immigration thing will take the Bush train off its tracks.

I know Bush is trying to do the right thing, I doubt we can round up all the illegals, but certainly we can stop the flow of new illegals. This country's current policy is insanity.

30 posted on 03/27/2006 12:55:28 PM PST by Williams
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"Amazing, Bush refusing to even utter the word "illegal"."

This is the one issue that pi$$es me off with President Bush. His statement that we should not fear immigrants is correct but out of context. No one is fearing immigrants. It is the ILLEGAL immigrants that are a threat, that are an economic drain, that are trashing the border towns and creating havoc. They don't pay taxes, but they get all the benefits of citizenship. That is a rip off.

31 posted on 03/27/2006 12:55:54 PM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: rushmom
When illegal aliens can march by the hundreds of thousands in an American city waving the flag of Mexico, making demands on this country and nothing is done about it, I call that a threat.

I'm not worried about those at all, I'm worried about the ones who are trying to maintain a low profile.

I guess everything is okay though, President Bush said so!
32 posted on 03/27/2006 12:56:32 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: mathprof

I beg to differ. The number of illegals marching is actually, quite a threat!


33 posted on 03/27/2006 12:59:03 PM PST by jw777
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To: American Quilter

Then you probably won't be votin'. Neither the Demoncrat nor the 'Pubbies are going to take up this issue in a serious fashion.


34 posted on 03/27/2006 12:59:22 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: American Quilter

Then you probably won't be votin'. Neither the Demoncrat nor the 'Pubbies are going to take up this issue in a serious fashion.


35 posted on 03/27/2006 12:59:24 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Williams

BUMP!


36 posted on 03/27/2006 12:59:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: mathprof

The illegals are clearly a threat. But, Bush sitting on his butt and doing nothing is also a huge problem. Maybe he will wake up and actually do his job to protect this country from invasion.


37 posted on 03/27/2006 12:59:44 PM PST by MBB1984
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They don't pay taxes, but they get all the benefits of citizenship.

How come? If they are illegals without papers....

There is something here I don't understand. I saw pictures of the march and was astounded. If they really are illegal immigrants where's the police?

38 posted on 03/27/2006 12:59:49 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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That's MY president!!!!! ;^)


40 posted on 03/27/2006 1:00:37 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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I am sick of this, and will opt out the next election.


41 posted on 03/27/2006 1:01:12 PM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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If a competetive, market wage is offered, all kind of college students, high school students, people moving off of Welfare, etc. will take those jobs.

There was an interesting thread a few days ago about fruit growers who are hiring illegals because they're the cheapest labor. When I said the same thing you did above, about six people pointed out that paying higher wages will drive up the price of his crops (which I knew and don't object to), leading the country's wholesalers to start buying cheaper produce from overseas. That hadn't occurred to me.

I'm against tariffs, so what's the solution? Start buying our food overseas? Accept that growing fruits and vegetables is going to disappear from America? I'd be interested to know what you think about this.

42 posted on 03/27/2006 1:01:21 PM PST by American Quilter (Set up, suckered in, pushed around...)
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"......Bush: Immigrants Are Not a Threat....."

DoctorMichael: Presidente Boosh, is the USA a 'Country' or is it a 'Market'?

43 posted on 03/27/2006 1:02:04 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DCPatriot

That's MY president!!!!! ;^)


Mine too. And he has my full support.


44 posted on 03/27/2006 1:02:40 PM PST by zook
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To: Little Ray

I'll be voting.


45 posted on 03/27/2006 1:03:08 PM PST by American Quilter (Set up, suckered in, pushed around...)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Or the ones who will soon be funded by Castro and Chavez to foment violence in California.

Regarding immigration and spending, the left is right: Bush is an idiot.

46 posted on 03/27/2006 1:03:27 PM PST by pierrem15
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Bush is whistling past the graveyard on this, and it ain't gonna work. Positive reinforcement by the admin. in the way of calling them 'neighbors' not criminals, for heavens sake, will embolden them. They're already demanding US rights, privileges, and the land, itself. US citizens should get the h..ll out, according to that mob with the Mexican flags yesterday. How long before they decide a nice Watts type riot is in order..until they get what they want. They'll burn down LA. Wait and see.


47 posted on 03/27/2006 1:04:03 PM PST by hershey
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I cannot understand why the President will not admit that illegal aliens are hurting this country. It is beyond me how Bush and others will not step up and speak the truth. Just because the Hispanic vote is on the rise we have to cover our eyes and ears and pretend everything is A-OK? I used to totally support Bush and think he was for the American people but this stinks of only doing what business wants just like the Dems used to claim the Republicans did.I hope all the marches of the criminals this past week were a real eye opener for the average American.Could anyone imagine 50,000 Americans marching in Mexico City demanding the Mexican Government give them stuff?
48 posted on 03/27/2006 1:04:20 PM PST by badgerbengal (Good Luck Harper and all of Canada!)
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To: groovejedi

There go the election hopes of ANY Republican who does not strongly repudiate this policy. They ain't going to get votes from Democrats, and many of the regular GOP voters are either going to vote 3rd party or sit it out.


49 posted on 03/27/2006 1:04:22 PM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist; Amnesty for illegals is objectively anti-American)
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To: mathprof
No one should pretend that immigrants are a threat to American identity

There's no one I know who thinks immigrants in general are a threat.

Is Bush now forgetting the difference between legals and illegals? Sorry, I meant to say "document-challenged immigrants." I'm so insensitive.

50 posted on 03/27/2006 1:04:52 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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