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Polls: Illegals a Serious Problem in U.S. [The Prez and RINO Party Must Not Of Read This]
News Max ^ | March 27, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 03/28/2006 5:22:04 AM PST by conservativecorner

Most people in the United States think illegal immigration is a serious problem. A solid majority oppose making it easier for illegal immigrants to become legal workers or citizens.

Some findings in recent polling:

Some 59 percent say they oppose allowing illegal immigrants to apply for legal, temporary-worker status, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found.

More than six in 10, 62 percent, say they oppose making it easier for illegal immigrants to become citizens, according to a Quinnipiac University poll. Nine in 10 in that poll say they consider immigration to be a serious problem - with 57 percent of those polled saying very serious.

Three-fourths say the United States is not doing enough along its borders to keep illegal immigrants out, a Time Magazine poll found. The NBC-WSJ poll was taken in March, Quinnipiac in February and Time in January. The NBC-WSJ and Time polls surveyed about 1,000 adults and had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. The Quinnipiac poll of 1,892 registered voters had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.


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1 posted on 03/28/2006 5:22:07 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

It's Not Xenophobia, It's Xenonausea--It is not Xenophobia. It is Xenonausea. People are sick of having the whole world shoved down their throats at once and being told it tastes like ice cream. They are sick of every street corner and parking lot being filled with criminal aliens waiting to work off the books and outside the laws that are applied so enthusiastically to actual Americans. They are sick of pressing “1” for English. They are sick of being at war with foreign terrorists and simultaneously being economically and demographically bound more tightly to the nations producing these terrorists. They are sick of being told that the world is global or flat or smaller or at their doorstep or all coming for dinner on Tuesday


2 posted on 03/28/2006 5:23:52 AM PST by robowombat
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To: conservativecorner

The Republicans have lost my support. I am through with this party. Spineless idiots who IGNORE THEIR BASE! Including this President....continually ignoring his base!!!! Spending, weak on terror and allowing illegals and terrorists into your country with so-called SWEEPING reform And yes, I will vote for democrats, at least I know where they stand.


3 posted on 03/28/2006 5:24:59 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: conservativecorner

And what are the good people of the good old USA going to do about this??

Going to just sit back on your laurels and say oh dear?

Going to let these mexican flag wavers slap your face with their defiant acts against us?

Going to let the turncoat traitors turn over America to socialists, terroists?

Than you will get what you deserve.

Remember three words....WAR on terror!


4 posted on 03/28/2006 5:26:40 AM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: Blue Turtle

He's quickly losing my support too. If he (Bush) can be THIS wrong on illegal aliens, the Dubai port deal, spending... well, now I'm wondering if he's wrong on the war.


5 posted on 03/28/2006 5:27:28 AM PST by Mayflower Sister (DEMOCRAT: THE PARTY OF COWARDS AND TRAITORS, and I almost forgot... BABY KILLERS)
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To: stopem

What are your suggestions?


6 posted on 03/28/2006 5:27:59 AM PST by Mayflower Sister (DEMOCRAT: THE PARTY OF COWARDS AND TRAITORS, and I almost forgot... BABY KILLERS)
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To: conservativecorner
LOL, give the MSM time, they have not even begun to demagogue the issue, just wait until we start seeing sob stories, the polls will change, they always do.
7 posted on 03/28/2006 5:28:50 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Mayflower Sister
Don't forget Meirs where they said the opposition was elitist,sexist and finally that no one else wanted the job. They take us for fools.
8 posted on 03/28/2006 5:29:52 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

http://laotze.blogspot.com/2005/05/al-qaeda-tours-and-travel-if-you-have.html


9 posted on 03/28/2006 5:30:21 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Blue Turtle
The Republicans have lost my support

Why .. because 3 senators on a COMMITTEE voted to pass this draft bill?

10 posted on 03/28/2006 5:31:43 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Mayflower Sister

I have some suggestions. Prosecute illegal activity. Close our borders until we can get a handle on the influx of illegal immigration. Use our military to handle any rising up of illegals. Did you watch tv over the weekend? They don't care about america or its forefathers....they insult our heritage and history and wave mexican flags. we are doomed if we allow this.

Cancel ALL visas for people coming from terrorist countries....

Never ever insult the american people by saying: "mexicans do jobs americans won't" that is a bunch of BS. I would also fully prosecute this war and finish these countries off by end of may. have you seen the afghans and their islamic law about converting? I thought we brought freedom to them? this war has turned into a marketing scam. we are allowing terrorists into our country.


11 posted on 03/28/2006 5:32:02 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Mo1

NO, because not one republican besides trancedo has the balls to listen to their base. like the democrats ignore their "black" base....repubs ignore their "conservative base"


12 posted on 03/28/2006 5:33:06 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: robowombat
Well, I agree with your rant, but what is the solution? It cannot be a "felony" conviction that the House proposed for every one of the 11 million illegals because, with 2 million criminals incarcerated in a prison system that is 98 percent saturated, where would we put them? In my little corner of rural Va., I also know many in the agricultural sector who exclusively hire illegals because "they're cheap, they show up, and they do good work!"
Trouble is, they also bring their families with them and put a real drain on our social services and educational systems. Their children begin schools in the fall and are there until the harvest season concludes, then they go home to Mexico, El Salvador, etc., only to return in the spring and therefore missing four-and-a-half months of crucial schooling--meanwhile the state holds the schools accountable on the Va. Standards of Learning requirements when those same kids can't pass their SOL exams.
13 posted on 03/28/2006 5:33:13 AM PST by meandog (Mohammad is the devil!)
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To: Blue Turtle
You are forgetting the House where the Party still has a set. They have a tough Bill that was passed. I want to see how this plays out in negotiations between the House and Senate. All my donations now go to the NRCC which is the House Republican Caucus. Let's not throw away our majority where it still counts.
14 posted on 03/28/2006 5:33:54 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Mayflower Sister

Sooner or later it's going to come down to only one option. The 2nd Amendment! After decades of government inaction, it will be all that's left.


15 posted on 03/28/2006 5:34:10 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Mayflower Sister

This is a fight for America now! It seems like we are under attack by those that mean harm to us because like criminals they sneak in and hide, and than come out of the shadows long enough to demonstrate and take over our streets and DEMAND what they want.

We trusted our politicians to take care of this crisis instead they cave in to them what are we supposed to do?


16 posted on 03/28/2006 5:34:18 AM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: Blue Turtle

Oh, I totally agree with you but what are your suggestions for forcing this to happen? I think the point of the thread is that there are too many RINO's to accomplish this.

We're screwed. Actually, this should have been "nipped in the bud" when Reagan signed his legislation many, many years ago. I remember the outrage at that time but Reagan sold us a bill of goods at that time and now I think it's too late.


17 posted on 03/28/2006 5:35:24 AM PST by Mayflower Sister (DEMOCRAT: THE PARTY OF COWARDS AND TRAITORS, and I almost forgot... BABY KILLERS)
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To: Blue Turtle
The Republicans have lost my support. I am through with this party. Spineless idiots who IGNORE THEIR BASE! Including this President....continually ignoring his base!!!! Spending, weak on terror and allowing illegals and terrorists into your country with so-called SWEEPING reform And yes, I will vote for democrats, at least I know where they stand.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but please shut the h*** up. Thank you.

18 posted on 03/28/2006 5:35:57 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Blue Turtle
I have some suggestions. Prosecute illegal activity. Close our borders until we can get a handle on the influx of illegal immigration. Use our military to handle any rising up of illegals. Did you watch tv over the weekend? They don't care about america or its forefathers....they insult our heritage and history and wave mexican flags. we are doomed if we allow this.

Where would you suggest putting 11 million illegals in a current system where two million convicts are said to be a 98 percent prison saturation?

19 posted on 03/28/2006 5:36:06 AM PST by meandog (Mohammad is the devil!)
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To: Mo1

I could answer for BT on your question. If you think this is about illegal immigration alone, you have not been watching the senate for several years. The RINO Party reins supreme in the senate. It was 4 senators by the way and not 3.


20 posted on 03/28/2006 5:36:27 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Roccus

Amen!


21 posted on 03/28/2006 5:36:37 AM PST by Mayflower Sister (DEMOCRAT: THE PARTY OF COWARDS AND TRAITORS, and I almost forgot... BABY KILLERS)
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To: Blue Turtle
NO, because not one republican besides trancedo has the balls to listen to their base

Oh yea .. they how did the House pass their bill if they don't listen??

22 posted on 03/28/2006 5:36:42 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: stopem

And amen!


23 posted on 03/28/2006 5:36:56 AM PST by Mayflower Sister (DEMOCRAT: THE PARTY OF COWARDS AND TRAITORS, and I almost forgot... BABY KILLERS)
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To: conservativecorner

Hint: Leave the editorial comments off your thread title, at least until you're more comfortable with grammar.


24 posted on 03/28/2006 5:37:14 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: meandog
You are correct, unfortunately, that we are stuck with the illegals that are here. The answer in short form is physically close the border and get control of ports of entry and enforce speedy automatic deportation for anyone caught border jumping. Also anchor baby protection must be terminated.
25 posted on 03/28/2006 5:37:36 AM PST by robowombat
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To: Blue Turtle

What got me was Bush's statement the other day " All we need to do is enforce the existing laws " Well, isn't that your job ? The last time I checked it was the Executive Branch the controlled the Justice Department


26 posted on 03/28/2006 5:38:38 AM PST by cryptomc
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To: conservativecorner
you have not been watching the senate for several years

I've been watching the Senate on cspan2 almost every day for the last few years and I am well aware of what is going on

And 3 Senators on a committee don't speak for the WHOLE party

BTW ... I also see what is going on with some posts around here

27 posted on 03/28/2006 5:39:12 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Blue Turtle
repubs ignore their "conservative base"

-Tax cuts
-Conservatives on the bench
-Stronger military
-Powerful, free-market economy
-More restrictions on abortion and acceptance of a pro-life culture
-Aggressively pursuing terrorists across the globe
-Please see my #18.

Thank you.

28 posted on 03/28/2006 5:40:05 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

Hint: I will do as I please, and you should mind your own business on others threads. Nobody said you had to become a part of this thread. Go back to bed and get up on the other side. The world will be a better place for it.


29 posted on 03/28/2006 5:41:26 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

"Must Not of"????!?!?!?!


30 posted on 03/28/2006 5:41:36 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: robowombat

To all responses: Where would we put them? its called deportation, put them in a plane and drop them off where they came. you people, open your eyes....when an illegal is driving a car and runs over your kid, or kills your family to steal from you....don't say you weren't warned. you are supporting impotent, inactive, ego-driven men who have no desire to change things. And when your taxes, property, auto, insurance go through the roof...thank the illegals for doing that. You are paying for THEIR behavior! and you know what...they don't like you, they hate the white man and they hate america. they want to keep their mexican heritage and spit on our history. Trancedo gets my FULL $upport!


31 posted on 03/28/2006 5:42:09 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: cryptomc
Well, isn't that your job ?

He is doing his job

The problem is .. he can't force the State and Local Governments to do their's

And unfortunately .. some local govs don't want to stop the illegals

32 posted on 03/28/2006 5:42:25 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: conservativecorner

No matter that the overwhelming number of Americans want tough action taken on immigration, the House of Lords cavalierly refuses, taking its marching orders instead from the Chamber of Commerce and La Raza.

I've already put my two Senators (Frist and Alexander) on notice that I will not support them if they approve amnesty ("guest worker") or increased immigration. (I realize Frist is not seeking reelection to the Senate, but he has a burning desire to be president.)

I also will not support a presidential candidate like our current open-borders president, who has been a disaster.

If enough people do likewise, these political plutocrats will not be able to get enough illegal votes to keep them in office.


33 posted on 03/28/2006 5:42:42 AM PST by reelfoot
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To: Mo1

Care to enumerate on your last sentence?


34 posted on 03/28/2006 5:43:27 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: meandog
Where would you suggest putting 11 million illegals in a current system where two million convicts are said to be a 98 percent prison saturation?

We wouldn't have to put them anywhere. Just cut off all the benefits they have here and they will do either one of two things: assimilate or go back home. Once those who intend to immigrate illegally see that the cash cow has been cut off, they won't even attempt to come here.

35 posted on 03/28/2006 5:44:15 AM PST by itsinthebag (E)
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To: conservativecorner
HAVE, HAVE, HAVE!!! ...must not HAVE read this.
36 posted on 03/28/2006 5:44:18 AM PST by love n hate tattoo
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To: stopem
And what are the good people of the good old USA going to do about this??

I, for one, am voting with my wallet. In the past, I have sent several hundred dollars a year to the RNC. Now, when I get their (almost daily) requests in the mail, I write, using a bold red marking pen, that they will never see another dime from me until they get serious about fighting illegal immigration.

It's possible that the staffer who opens the envelope just looks for a check, and, failing to find one, tosses the response into the big round file. It's also possible that if tens of thousands of such responses are opened, someone with some sense might start paying attention.

37 posted on 03/28/2006 5:45:19 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: conservativecorner

I don't think I need to

All the new names popping up around here is more then obvious

And no .. I'm not talking about you


38 posted on 03/28/2006 5:45:34 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: conservativecorner
You had the audacity to post this absurd rant, thereby making me a part of it. So rather than address your content (or lack thereof), I thought we'd start with something easy like your poor comprehension of the English language. Although it is admittedly better than your comprehension of the political scene.

Hey, who wants to bet that CC has already run crying to the mods over mean ol' Coop?!? ROTFL!! If not, then this post should do it.

Run, Forrest, run!!

39 posted on 03/28/2006 5:46:01 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: cryptomc
...What got me was Bush's statement the other day " All we need to do is enforce the existing laws "...

He doesn't mean this at all, it's just words to fool some people. If he was serious, something would be done. Did you see or hear of any enforcement happening in Los Angeles the past few days?? What an opportunity that was to make a show of strength. NOTHING!

40 posted on 03/28/2006 5:46:46 AM PST by sangoo
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
In the past, I have sent several hundred dollars a year to the RNC. Now, when I get their (almost daily) requests in the mail, I write, using a bold red marking pen, that they will never see another dime from me until they get serious about fighting illegal immigration.

Hey, you're the 547th FReeper to make this claim.

And yet the RNC fundraising continues to break records. Go figure! :-D

41 posted on 03/28/2006 5:48:13 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: conservativecorner

Convict them as felons and throw them out. If they return without proper documentation execute them. The rest will learn to follow our laws real quick.

When I was young my father picked apples. The owner of the orchard complained that my dad wasn't picking nearly as many apples as the wetbacks were. My dad asked "did you happen to notice that they are also 'picking' the ones that drop on the ground?"


42 posted on 03/28/2006 5:48:41 AM PST by jjones9853
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To: conservativecorner
Don't forget Meirs where they said the opposition was elitist,sexist and finally that no one else wanted the job. They take us for fools.

AMEN! Sign me, Furious!

43 posted on 03/28/2006 5:48:57 AM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Mo1
I agree....you ain't heard Senator Cornyn, Senator Kyl, Senator Sessions,,,et al start on this yet. All the noise so far is from Kennedy, Durbin, the despicible Spector and other "usual suspects".

Senator Cornyn will pick this to death by himself if needed...

44 posted on 03/28/2006 5:48:59 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: Coop

*snicker*


45 posted on 03/28/2006 5:49:24 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: conservativecorner
Illegal aliens, aliens, aliens, not immigrants!

Quit trying to give these "alhambristas" a false appearance of non-existant honesty and credibility, they are rapers of this nation and are destroying it's sovereignty along with the rabble(politicians "Democrats and Republicans") and their voting enablers)that support their goals of destruction and anarchy!

46 posted on 03/28/2006 5:50:05 AM PST by VOYAGER
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To: jjones9853
The owner of the orchard complained that my dad wasn't picking nearly as many apples as the wetbacks were.

Ahh, wetbacks. What a lovely story.

47 posted on 03/28/2006 5:50:13 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: meandog

On trains to Mexico, and busses or covered wagons.


48 posted on 03/28/2006 5:50:15 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Blue Turtle

I agree with your post so much, thank you.


49 posted on 03/28/2006 5:50:45 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Good idea, they get enough of our money because we do obey the law and pay taxes to support the turncoat traitor politicians in Washington.

The other way is to insist on any company, restaurant, hotel you go to ask that they prove the employees are legal or your leaving, same with companies that work on your property.


50 posted on 03/28/2006 5:51:33 AM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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