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MASTER THREAD: FReeper Activism -- reports of turning in employers of illegal aliens
U.S. Border Control ^ | 3-28-06 | dfu

Posted on 03/28/2006 1:01:32 PM PST by doug from upland

THE IDEA STARTED ON THIS THREAD.

U.S. BORDER CONTROL
Turn in illegal aliens

We are hearing that reports of employers using illegal aliens or instances of illegal aliens engaged in criminal activity, have been responded to quickly by the new agency. Please note that it is unlikely that ICE will take any action against an illegal alien that is not employed illegally or engaged in some other sort of illegal activity.

The TOLL FREE number to report ILLEGAL aliens or those employing ILLEGAL aliens to ICE is: 866-347-2423

How it works:

You are not required to provide your identity to ICE.  All that is necessary to request an investigation by ICE is mere suspicion of any activity by ILLEGAL aliens. 

ICE and the IRS are especially interested in "visiting" those businesses that employ ILLEGALS "off the books" to avoid the payment of payroll taxes.  

Small and large businesses are equally notorious in the hiring of ILLEGAL aliens to avoid paying fair wages to its workers and to criminally evade the collection and payment of payroll taxes. 

We are interested in getting current information regarding how helpful or unhelpful the new agency has been in taking your information and following up on your complaint, so please drop us an email to keep us current.

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FReepers, here is a chance to make a difference in this battle. The only thing that will stop the invasion is stopping the employers who hire illegal aliens.

Please use this thread to give us reports of what you are doing. We need to develop a list of those businesses who can prove that they do not hire illegal aliens. If, for instance, you have spoken with someone at a certain restaurant and can determine that the restaurant does not hire illegal aliens, let us know about it. Those in the area need to partronize that restaurant. Positive publicity needs to be generated for them for being good Americans.

If you have evidence (perhaps including photos) of a business that is hiring illegals, report it to the number above and give us a report. Please do your homework on this. Make sure you get it right.

This may or may not have a significant impact, but we can't just sit here and watch our nation and culture being destroyed. If we can do this enough times around the country and make sure we get publicity, we have the potential to do something really important here.

Who is going to be first?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; illegal; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; invasionusa; mexico
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1 posted on 03/28/2006 1:01:37 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Bump.


2 posted on 03/28/2006 1:04:38 PM PST by Rocko (If we can't afford to deport, how can we support?)
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To: doug from upland

All the local Mexican restaurants around here don't even pay their waiters/waitresses, they just get tips only. That way they don't pay taxes and the owners don't pay for them at all.


3 posted on 03/28/2006 1:04:52 PM PST by Shimmer128
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To: doug from upland

ping


4 posted on 03/28/2006 1:05:53 PM PST by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" - Anonymous)
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To: Shimmer128

I have always suspected that the same is the case in most Chinese restaurants I go too.


5 posted on 03/28/2006 1:06:09 PM PST by twigs
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To: doug from upland
Who is going to be first?

Sounds interesting. However, unless they are taking flying lessons I doubt much will come of it.
6 posted on 03/28/2006 1:06:54 PM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: doug from upland

sounds like a job for (insert fanfare here) THE PAJAMA PATROL!!


7 posted on 03/28/2006 1:07:08 PM PST by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
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To: doug from upland

Place an ad in the paper: "SHEETROCK HANGERS NEEDED. APPLY IN PERSON AT 1234 OAK STREET, ANYTOWN, USA" Call the ICE to be there at the appointed time.............


8 posted on 03/28/2006 1:07:59 PM PST by Red Badger (I must not fear.)
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To: doug from upland

Putting the umber on speed dial. Employers hiring illegals beware. You are being watched and will be reported.


9 posted on 03/28/2006 1:08:13 PM PST by Butcher Kilroy
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To: doug from upland

...and when the government does nothing about?


10 posted on 03/28/2006 1:09:03 PM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: camle
(get yours at 0cents.com)


11 posted on 03/28/2006 1:09:23 PM PST by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
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To: doug from upland

Here's another place to report illegal employers:

http://reportillegals.com/index.html


12 posted on 03/28/2006 1:09:32 PM PST by Buffettfan
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To: doug from upland

No person will be employed at my company unless the person can complete a I-9 form with legitimate documents, which I copy and staple to the form.


13 posted on 03/28/2006 1:09:53 PM PST by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: bcsco

Any talk of boycotting any company that employs I.A.'s?

We must be prepared to pay the price of what we are demanding. ... in my opinion, it is worth it. I imagine, in the long run (after the strain on all our systems is decreased, it will be financially beneficial to have all the illegals out of here).


14 posted on 03/28/2006 1:10:38 PM PST by Mayflower Sister (DEMOCRAT: THE PARTY OF COWARDS AND TRAITORS, and I almost forgot... BABY KILLERS)
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To: Buffettfan

"Here's another place to report illegal employers:

http://reportillegals.com/index.html "




What a deal! You pay them $10 and they "report" the illegals. Sure they do....


15 posted on 03/28/2006 1:11:33 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: doug from upland

States need to propose STRONG CONTROL legislation against the illegals and their employers since our traitor Senators gave them all they demanded.

We have a federal minimum wage and any employer paying below minimum needs to be turned into the authorities and fined.


16 posted on 03/28/2006 1:12:24 PM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: Mayflower Sister

During the summer and fall I buy my veggies at a local farm that I know doesn't hire illegals. It costs more but it helps the local economy.


17 posted on 03/28/2006 1:12:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: doug from upland
REPORT - March 28, 2006

RESTAURANT: Applebees - Montclair, CA

I have eaten there many times and spoke with the manager, telling him that I am making an effort to patronize businesses who do not hire illegal aliens. The manager told me that they check ID cards, green cards, and make them file I-9s. He cannot guarantee that someone might slip through with fraudulent documents. If they find out, that illegal will be gone - it is corporate policy. He told me they cannot risk facing the fine for hiring illegals. It seems like Applebees corporate execs get it.

Note: this seemed to work very well. As a customer, he wanted to continue having me come into his restaurant. He seemed to genuinely understand the concern. And, yes, is name was Jose.

18 posted on 03/28/2006 1:13:12 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

You would be surprised how many legal immigrants from Mexico and other Hispanic countries are not happy about the illegals and are on our side.


19 posted on 03/28/2006 1:14:22 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: cripplecreek

Please call the farm, ask the question, and give them some good publicity here. Maybe others in the area will patronize them. Try to get an article in the local paper.


20 posted on 03/28/2006 1:14:37 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

I know far too many. The bay area is engulfed with this.


21 posted on 03/28/2006 1:15:00 PM PST by Rick_Michael
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To: areafiftyone

Not surprised at all. They are good Americans who waited their turn. They love America, not just people who are brown. Those who put race or ethnicity above America are the true racists.


22 posted on 03/28/2006 1:16:02 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Rick_Michael

Well, how about a report?


23 posted on 03/28/2006 1:16:27 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
Not again, not more freggin` aliens...


24 posted on 03/28/2006 1:17:02 PM PST by Screamname (Tagline)
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To: doug from upland

Curtis Farms is fairly well known around here.

Lyle Curtis Farm
10990 Austin Rd.
Napoleon Township, MI 49261
Phone: 517-536-4158
I-94 Exit 142
US-127 South to M-50 Exit. East on M-50 to Austin Rd. One of the largest growers of sweet corn and garden vegetables.


25 posted on 03/28/2006 1:17:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: doug from upland
He cannot guarantee that someone might slip through with fraudulent documents.

That is every companies out and this is why ICE loses it's court cases. Any two-bit lawyer can get the employer off by saying the employer is not a counterfeit document expert and the employer had no way of knowing the docs were bad.

Until the FEDs come up with a quick and required way to check the authenticity of documents, employers will always get away with hiring illegals.

26 posted on 03/28/2006 1:20:11 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: doug from upland

I don't like the idea of ratting people out. For terrorism-related activities, of course. But other than that, in general, no thanks.


27 posted on 03/28/2006 1:21:31 PM PST by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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To: doug from upland

Feels a tad "Brown Shirty" to me.


28 posted on 03/28/2006 1:22:53 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Marine Inspector

As customers, we can put on the pressure, especially if we can get publicity in the local newspapers. If you are really sure they are hiring illegals, perhaps you can call them and tell them you know they are doing it. You will give them seven days to solve the problem and you had better see some employment ads in the newspaper. Will it work? I don't know. But it may be worth a shot. If we do this in large enough numbers, we may make a difference.

Too bad KFI's John Kobylt is on vacation this week. He would be going crazy. When he gets back, perhaps he will carry this ball.


29 posted on 03/28/2006 1:23:33 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: areafiftyone
You would be surprised how many legal immigrants from Mexico and other Hispanic countries are not happy about the illegals and are on our side.

Then why aren't they more vocal about it? Why don't more legal Hispanics join groups like the Minutemen and report employers that hire illegals?

Reminds me of the so-called 'moderate Muslims' who 'condemn' terrorism (yeah, right).

30 posted on 03/28/2006 1:23:39 PM PST by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: bassmaner

The hispanics in the last shop I worked at were always the ones to turn the illegals in.


31 posted on 03/28/2006 1:25:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Oh, good. The racist Nazi thing. If you have a better idea, let's hear it.

Those employers who are cheating have an unfair and immoral business advantage over the competition that is playing by the rules and obeying the law. If you think that makes me a brownshirt, so be it. People were also angry with me for trying to expose Clinton as a rapist.


32 posted on 03/28/2006 1:26:41 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Bookmaestro

ping


33 posted on 03/28/2006 1:27:54 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: veronica
Look very close at the sign they're carrying.

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34 posted on 03/28/2006 1:28:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: veronica

That's fine. Businesses are violating the law, harming this country, and cheating to have an advantage over a competitor. But let's not rat them out. How about if they are not paying payroll taxes? Would you rat that out. What if they are not obeying health rules? Would you rat that out?


35 posted on 03/28/2006 1:28:36 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: cripplecreek

Of course. The illegal invaders have pushed down their wages and made it more difficult to compete for jobs. Those who waited in line and obeyed the law are getting screwed.


36 posted on 03/28/2006 1:29:45 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I look good in brown.


37 posted on 03/28/2006 1:31:37 PM PST by 4U2OUI
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To: doug from upland

The biggest problem here is that many of these same employers pay substandard wages because they know their employees will have some living expenses will be paid for by taxpayer $. So, in addition to evading numerous payroll taxes they also are causing big problems for the welfare system and this being the case, they deserve to be "outed".


38 posted on 03/28/2006 1:34:04 PM PST by american spirit
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To: doug from upland

Whole bunch of them marching all over the place for the last few days. ICE doing anything?


39 posted on 03/28/2006 1:35:26 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

We may have more power than ICE. If enough people tell businesses they will lose them as customers, it may do some good.


40 posted on 03/28/2006 1:36:29 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

Here's my take on this:

Sounds like a good idea, but this is what I think (know) will happen:

You witness an employer hiring an illegal so you call;

ring ring

"ICE"
"Yes, I would like to report Mom and Pops Lawn Service for hiring illegal aliens"
"OK sir, thank you very much"

(insert sound of crickets churping)


41 posted on 03/28/2006 1:36:39 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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REPORT: March 28, 2006

Restaurant: Brandon's Diner, Upland, CA

I spoke with the manager and told her I hope to keep eating there but I have to know their policy on hiring illegal aliens. They check the SS card and California ID. If they find out the docs are phony, they will terminate the person. According to this manager, in the time she has worked there, there has been only one case they found where the person could not prove they were here legally. That person was not hired.


42 posted on 03/28/2006 1:44:42 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

If you see by my reports, I am calling businesses I patronize and asking for a guarantee that they do not hire illegal aliens. That may do more good. If enough people complain, however, about some local business, it should worth a story in the newspaper. The business will not want that to happen.


43 posted on 03/28/2006 1:46:24 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
Great idea, doug.

The IHOP in North Little Rock and the IHOP in Hot Springs are suspicious to me. They should be checked out.

They can ask for Green Cards at most any new home construction site here in Arkansas. Wait till lunch, when half a dozen are tail gating their lunch around a loaf of bread..

Course Tyson's chicken plant in Springdale Arkansas is the first place they need to check out.

Arkansas is a hot bed of Illegals, due to the welcome mat Huckabee laid out.

44 posted on 03/28/2006 1:48:38 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Marine Inspector
>>Until the FEDs come up with a quick and required way to check the authenticity of documents,<<

National I.D. perhaps?

45 posted on 03/28/2006 1:49:46 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: twigs

"I have always suspected that the same is the case in most Chinese restaurants I go too."

Yes. There is a Chinese joint in Bellevue, WA catering to the computer executive crowd that has a cash register for show and puts cash into, and makes change from something looking like a cigar box.

I was told by a Seattle Gang Unit detective that The I-5 corridor between Vancouver, BC, Canada and Southern California is the favored route of Chinese illegals, smugglers, and gangs.

Chinese Tongs and Triads are well ensconsed in the Pacific NW.


46 posted on 03/28/2006 1:51:20 PM PST by doxteve
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To: spectre

I think there was a lawsuit filed against Tyson that went to the appellate level. I don't know where it is now.

You call or give me the phone number and I'll call. They need to be told that they will have two weeks to solve the problem or massive bad publicity and complaints are coming their way.


47 posted on 03/28/2006 1:52:14 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Feels a tad "Brown Shirty" to me.

Oh, please. First, they are criminals. Hundreds of Americans have been killed by illegal aliens since September 11, 2001. Glenn Beck mentioned on his show today that illegals cost this country $55 BILLION per year. We could use that money elsewhere.

48 posted on 03/28/2006 1:52:39 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: doxteve

Are you going to call them?


49 posted on 03/28/2006 1:52:50 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Mayflower Sister
"Any talk of boycotting any company that employs I.A.'s?"

It's becomming painfully obvious that the Senate isn't going to do anything. They're running scared on the issue, thinking that to offer a strict bill will turn away 'potential' voters.

They're probably right. But they fail to remember where their 'current' votes come from. And polls (I hate to use that word) show that most Americans are for a tough policy.

It also seems that what they're proposing relies on the Illegals to go along with the program (also true of business). But what's to prevent undocumented workers from ignoring the law (just as they are now) and carry on as before. We'd still be no closer to getting them out (or even insuring their compliance.

From that standpoint a boycott makes sense IMHO. Pressure on the businesses would obviously carry more weight than the proposals I've seen. But, for it to work, it would have to be widespread to have affect.

BTW, looking at your tagline, let me say that my ancestors arrived from Germany in 1854; all legally. They learned English, developed businesses, and made a life for themselves. I have NO problem with anyone wanting to do the same, regardless of where they come from. I only ask that they do so legally.

50 posted on 03/28/2006 1:53:35 PM PST by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" - Anonymous)
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