Posted on 03/28/2006 2:18:36 PM PST by razorbak
The Roman Catholic Church, dozens of grass-roots coalitions and Spanish-language radio disc jockeys have helped fuel protests nationwide against congressional efforts to tackle illegal immigration....
The Catholic Church has played a key role in opposing legislation to restrict immigration and rallying protesters....
"As we've been able to reach more and more people, they're waking up to the ills of the proposals made to date and seeing the need to be vocal about the kinds of reforms that would be more acceptable," said Mark D. Franken, executive director of migration and refugee services for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops....
The bishops conference in May began "Justice for Immigrants," a campaign focused on activating a network of grass-roots movements against punitive immigration-reform legislation....
Mr. Franken said all the nation's 197 Catholic dioceses are in some way backing the campaign, with more than 70 being particularly active. Disseminating pamphlets and networking, community-level groups tied to the campaign are operating "in churches and everywhere they can gain access," he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at insider.washingtontimes.com ...
""As we've been able to reach more and more people, they're waking up to the ills of the proposals made to date and seeing the need to be vocal about the kinds of reforms that would be more acceptable,"
It's WAY past time to start making these churches pay taxes. That's shut 'em up quickly.
They just love the leftist idiology. All the while the Churches are rolling on money and demanding the taxpayers use their money to promote socialism around the world.
And I'm sending letters to every Archbishop about that idiotic stance.
My article about Christians and Illegal Immigration. Notice that "Christian" advocates for illegals almost never quote from the Bible.
They supported the Anti-War rallies around the country but locally, they were mostly gray hair, long hair former hippies.
What the Catholic Church is doing is really demeaning to their own mostly blue-collar members, who have gotten the boot from their own employers in favor of hiring illegals.
These are the same people whose children were molested by the Catholic Clergy too. When will some people learn?
The Church (and true conservative Catholics) has been battling the Marxist "Liberation Theology" scourge in Central and other parts of Latin America for a long time. It is contrary to Church teachings.
The US bishops do not speak "for the Church" as a whole.
Hispanics are mostly catholics...follow the money.
Feinstein is a a miserable failure
The R.C. church claims to be aginst abortion but this is just window dressing. Ted Kennedys stance on abortion comes directly from Rome. He is attacking the US on two fronts one is cause genocide of the legal children of this country through abortion. The other front is to flood this country with Illegals from all of South America which are mostly Catholic. Yes The church wants to dominate this country. The concerns people had regarding our frist Catholic president are now being realized.
If I did my html right, this should be the link
"The concerns people had regarding our frist Catholic president are now being realized."
What the hell are you talking about? You don't like catholics, I quess. Stupid post.
I am so damn glad I stopped going to my Catholic church and pumping money into that stupid commie basket that is passed around. I stopped attending church two decades ago. This is nothing new. Priests have been preaching soclaism/communism for decades. Screw 'em.
We're stacking the deck with Catholics to fight off the Islamists!
Silly me, should have seen this before. :-)
"I stopped attending church two decades ago."
I couldn't live with the guilt. The people change in the church, yet cannon law never does. Sad you left.
Thank you.
I like all believers in all churches. But it is their Leaders you have to watch.
I have repeatedly told all of you this and have been flamed for it. Oh well...
Curses, foiled again! Sorry, Benedict. Pack up your idols, for our devious papist schemes have been laid bare and we must retreat to Rome, the whore of Babylon!
I understand your sympathies.
However, I had different priests in differnt churches in different cities in the 70s an 80s who sounded like they were quoting from the Communist Manifesto instead of the bible. Most priests in the Catholic Church tend to lean toward socialist preachings.
Not all of them. My personal experience is that certain orders, like the recent history of the Jesuits, are more apt to be populated with socialists/communists. Joseph Fessio is one exception. The number of devout, faithful Priests that I've met in my life far outweigh the number of kooks, commies and criminals. I don't base my belief in the Constitution on its interpretation by the Clintons nor do I base my Catholicism on the interpretation of the deposit of faith by socialists/communists masquerading as Priests.
Absolutely. Take away the tax exemption, now.
No matter how bad a priest is, his behavior is not going to stop me from confession and communion. The catholic church has been here since Jesus started it and I am just one person in that long history. The catholic church has had horrible leaders in its history, yet it continues to stand. It is greater than me.
"2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."
If you want to know what the Catholic Church teaches, your best bet is to go to the Catechism, which happens to be searchable online:
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm
On immigration:
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2241.htm
If you're going to write to your Bishop, maybe this is the part you should emphasize. (Go ahead, introduce your Bishop to Catholic doctrine...it'll do him good...)
Bump
As a Catholic, all of this commie "social justice" crap within the church gets my blood boiling. This is what the liberal "reforms" of Vatican II have foisted upon us (or the misdeeds that have been done in "the spirit of Vatican II", anyway). Many Orthodox Traditional Catholics want nothing to do with this crap, or the creeping modernism (liberalism) which is pervading the church, and slowly destroying it.
This is why I have stopped going to my local parish, and now drive 30 miles to the one Traditional Conservative parish that is allowed to exist in my diocese. From what I have heard from other embattled Catholics, I feel lucky to have one THAT close.
The problems of liberalism are infesting the Catholic and Protestant churches, just like they are infesting society at large. Unfortunately, people see these articles about liberal Catholics in the news media, and assume the entire church buys into the big lie hook, line, and sinker. Nothing could be futher from the truth. There are also Conservatives there, who are fighting the good fight. But we seem to be outnumbered in the United States.
Yes, it is the Bishops that need to follow the Church's teachings.
It's not free, you know.
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I knew someone hear could express it more clearly (and accurately) that I could.
I couldn't live with the guilt. The people change in the church, yet cannon law never does. Sad you left.
Well said.
Sending a letter to any of the Bishops is a waste of time.
As far as they are concerned, the bishops don't care what the other parishioners think about this issue!
My suggestion is to stop putting money in the collections on Sunday! This will get their attention. Let the Bishops depend on the illegals to support them in their lifestyles.
In our church the illegals place between $200 to $300 in the collection baskets on Sunday. All of their activities are supported by the other parishioners!
MONEY MATTERS TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND WILL HAVE A GREAT EFFECT ON THEIR SUPPORT FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!
Your tinfoil hat is too tight.
Do you have a link to offer for your conspiracy theories?
Will Durant, The Lessons of History
There have been none in Philly (and we do have illegals). I have not seen any in Texas. Has there been?
Durant was a socialist who left the Church and who thought Islam was a great religion.
Bert, this may come as a big surprise to you, but I figure I've attended 5,000+ Masses in my lifetime (so far), and I have never once heard a priest mention any obligation to procreate.
Not even in our pre-marriage classes did a priest, or any other Catholic educator, even breathe the mere suggestion that my husband-to-be and I should think about procreating.
Some (non-Catholic) folks assume that we Catholic are hearing stern sermons against contraception and abortion, and explicit references to self-sacrificial moral duties, week after week at church. This is not the case. I wish it were, but it's not.
The fact is, most of us have to endure Sucralose sermons along the lines of "It's good to be good and it's nice to be nice."
The adult-level Catholic education we get--- including encouragement to be generous in the bearing and raising of children --- we've sought out and gotten on our own.
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