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MEMO TO YALE ALUMNI/AE re: TALIBAN
Yale Admissions Dept. ^ | March 28 2006 | Jeffrey Brenzel

Posted on 03/29/2006 5:44:21 AM PST by FrPR

Memorandum

From: Jeffrey Brenzel, Dean of Undergraduate Admissions

To: Alumni School Committee Directors

On February 26, the New York Times Magazine ran a cover story profiling Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, an individual who is currently taking undergraduate courses part-time at Yale in a special student program that does not award Yale degrees. Mr. Hashemi is a former member of the Taliban party in Afghanistan. At the age of 21, he visited the United States as a spokesperson for the Afghan government, a few months before the events of 9/11. Following the invasion of coalition forces, he escaped Afghanistan and was later cleared twice by the State Department, both for a temporary visa and then a student visa granting entry to the United States.

The original profile in the New York Times has produced other media stories, including some that have been critical of Yale for allowing a former Taliban member to take courses here. If you have seen this coverage, you may have questions about it, or you may receive questions from applicants, parents, school counselors, or other alumni in your ASC area.

Within the Office of Undergraduate Admissions, we are responding to inquiries with two comments. First, some articles have stated that Mr. Hashemi is occupying a place in Yale College that would otherwise be available to another undergraduate student from the United States or abroad. This is not the case. Mr. Hashemi has not been admitted to Yale College as a degree-seeking undergraduate. Rather, he obtained approval last spring to take courses part-time as a non-degree special student. A small number of non-traditional students use this program to earn a limited number of college level credits. If Mr. Hashemi applies for a degree-granting, we would review that application in due course.

Second, in the Office of Undergraduate Admissions, we are following well-established policy of not commenting publicly on Mr. Hashemi’s case, just as we refrain from commenting publicly on anyone who is a potential candidate for admission. In your work as an admissions volunteer representing the office, we ask that you not make public comments as well, unless you simply seek to clarify the point that Mr. Hashemi has not been admitted or enrolled in a degree-granting program at Yale.

We know that with respect to his presence on campus, views will differ sharply and that you may hear from some who feel strongly on both sides of this issue. You may also have strong feelings of your own, and I would welcome hearing your feedback or having you forward to me correspondence that you receive from others.

I would also just like you to know that we deeply appreciate the enormous efforts that you and your interviewers have made to reach this year’s record number of 21,100 applicants for places in the Class of 2010. In the last two ASC newsletters, I have reported some impressions of my first year as Dean, and I will share some further thoughts with you when we complete the regular decision cycle.

Yours for Yale,

Jeffrey Brenzel

Dean of Undergraduate Admissions


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hashemi; ivy; rahmatullah; sayed; taliban; terror; yale
This is the memorandum sent from Dean Brenzel to Alumni school committee directors, who are active in the applications process.

His presence on campus and in this country is unacceptable.

It was quotas for Jews 'til the late '70s. It's quotas for Asians today. But the Taliban? Now THAT's diversity !

If you want your kids to go to Yale, marry one of them African-Aleutian Taliban gals.

FrPR Yale 96

1 posted on 03/29/2006 5:44:23 AM PST by FrPR
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To: FrPR; sure_fine

The subhuman, murderous POS should be at GITMO, not Yale. He's a war criminal and richly deserves execution.


2 posted on 03/29/2006 5:47:30 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: FrPR
It was quotas for Jews 'til the late '70s. It's quotas for Asians today. But the Taliban? Now THAT's diversity !

Yep!

3 posted on 03/29/2006 5:47:52 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: FrPR

Memorandum

From: Jeffrey Brenzel, Dean of Undergraduate Admissions

To: Alumni School Committee Directors

As you know we have a member of the Taliban attending our institution. We know you may not like it, but keep your yap shut, or you will be FIRED.


4 posted on 03/29/2006 5:50:59 AM PST by Sax (Ahmagonnadoajihad - His name says it all)
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To: FrPR
Yale's got an endowment of...what?....15 billion?

That being the case,I'll wager that "The President And Fellows" of Yale University don't give a rat's hindquarters about what you (or others) think.

5 posted on 03/29/2006 5:51:39 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: FrPR
I would welcome hearing your feedback or having you forward to me correspondence that you receive from others.

Now this reeks of the nazis label they always try to pin on conservatives.

7 posted on 03/29/2006 5:52:40 AM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: FrPR
I wonder what chance a combat veteran of Afghanistan who fought the Taliban, like myself, would have getting into Yale? Yeah, I know - State U for me!
8 posted on 03/29/2006 5:54:23 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: 2banana
Taliban welcome. Military recruiters not welcome.
9 posted on 03/29/2006 5:56:34 AM PST by Drango (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: FrPR

Lots a bureaucratic weasel-words in THAT memo; Completely dodges the issue.


10 posted on 03/29/2006 5:57:31 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: FrPR

If Mr. Hashemi applies for a degree-granting, we would review that application in due course. If he applied for a degree granting course he would be welcomed with open arms.

I just thought I would finish the sentence for them


11 posted on 03/29/2006 5:58:46 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: FrPR
It would be interesting hearing just what Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, an individual who is currently taking undergraduate courses part-time at Yale in a special student program that does not award Yale degrees. is studying that will not count toward a degree...?? Maybe nuclear physics??? chemistry??? engineering of bombs???
12 posted on 03/29/2006 6:00:37 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: 2banana

You're damned right. Yale SHUNS ROTC.

There's an Old Boy's Altar on Bienecke Plaza at Yale with the inscription:

"(Dedicated to) The Men of Yale who Gave their Lives that Freedom shall not Perish from this Earth"

Those men must be rolling over in their graves.

Deconstructionism and secular humanism are destroying us.


13 posted on 03/29/2006 6:01:21 AM PST by FrPR
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To: FrPR
Where are the feminazis on this one? They run rough-shot over college campuses these days, so where are they? It sure would be nice to see them useful for once.

I mean they can't cook
They don't clean
And they ain't worth loving

They are good for a rant and a foaming at the mouth rage. Where they not all over the Taliban just before 911? Now where are they?

While I am on it: Why isn't this guy in a POW camp?
14 posted on 03/29/2006 6:02:41 AM PST by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: FrPR

The fact that liberal-hypocritical Yale wants to educate a former memeber of the Taliban is simply Yale being Yale-like, and Yale lives by Yale's rules.

But the State Department has to answer to public laws and standards. Why has a former member of the Taliban been cleared by the State Department? He couldn't be educated at Yale if the State department didn't clear the way in the first place.


15 posted on 03/29/2006 6:06:43 AM PST by kidd
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To: Pookyhead

What is perversely funny, I guess, is the extent to which down has become up, right has become wrong, evil has become good... I know what you mean. And seeing it for what it is, I think, is hardest on those for whom Duty, Honor, and Country are the core ingredients of life.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 6:07:41 AM PST by FrPR
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To: 2banana

Thank you for your service. And I am sure the women who are now able to vote in Afghanistan are thanking you as well.


17 posted on 03/29/2006 6:11:37 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: FrPR

I wonder if Yale would be so accomodating to an Iraqi student who had fought against Saddam and represented the new coalition government or to an Iranian female who was an outspoken critic of Islamic repression in Iran?


18 posted on 03/29/2006 6:24:37 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Drango

Which is kind of funny, since the military practices, "Don't ask, don't tell", and the Taliban practiced "Don't be, or don't live".


19 posted on 03/29/2006 6:25:35 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: iluvlucy

The feminazis are too busy going after the DUKE Lacrosse team.


21 posted on 03/29/2006 6:26:58 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: 2banana

And you have the gratitude of the American people. Best wishes in your academic pursuits. That state university degree will serve you just fine.


22 posted on 03/29/2006 6:30:43 AM PST by trimom
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To: iluvlucy

The feminazis probably run "roughshod," but maybe Cheney will thake a "rough shot" at them.... I know it's a little early to be such a horse's rear, but gotta get it out of my system sometime.


23 posted on 03/29/2006 6:35:54 AM PST by olrtex
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Yale refers to him as a "former member of the Taliban party," as if this was part of a democratic two or three party system. Please....


24 posted on 03/29/2006 6:56:26 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

HYe's a murderous war criminal, in the same vein many of the WWII nazis who never pulled a trigger, were.

Hang him at GITMO.


25 posted on 03/29/2006 6:59:04 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: olrtex
When it comes to feminazis both terms work, not so with Cheney.

Have a cup of coffee you will feel better.
26 posted on 03/29/2006 7:00:44 AM PST by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: FrPR

On the other hand, Yale would never think of opening its doors to that Afghan Christian convert who is being persecuted -- that would be too "controversial" and "offensive."


27 posted on 03/29/2006 7:03:09 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: FrPR
"It was quotas for Jews 'til the late '70s.."

That's funny: one of my two freshman roommates in '65 was Jewish, and he certainly wasn't the only jew there then.
Quite the opposite: there were numerous jews in all my classes.

But then, that year was the first when over half the class had graduated from public high schools.

28 posted on 03/29/2006 8:06:45 AM PST by Redbob
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To: FrPR

Recap:

Yale is "not commenting publicly on" a "non-traditional," "non-degree special student."


EOM


29 posted on 03/29/2006 8:13:16 AM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Redbob

Apparently, when Yale fully dropped the quota, the number of Jews jumped up to about 1/3 of the class. It's been that way ever since.

Racial quotas are as racist as forced diversity.


30 posted on 03/29/2006 10:17:06 AM PST by FrPR
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To: FrPR
I know!

Given his past, Hashemi should be a shoo-in for membership in...









wait for it...









Skull and Crossbones!

Cheers!

31 posted on 03/31/2006 5:54:19 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: FrPR

Send him to the womyn's studies department!


32 posted on 03/31/2006 5:54:49 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Redbob

My understanding, by the way, was that there was an "unwritten" quota - sort of an understanding in the admissions committee - about limiting the number of Jewish names they put through. The reason, I think, was that schools like the PSs in the Bronx and Brooklyn were still, in those days, turning out kids that were often more academically qualified than the run-of-the mill Andover, Exeter, and Groton kids. As I understand - from an admissions insider - the "unwritten quota" is now applied to kids with asian names. It's three generations from shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves....


33 posted on 09/03/2006 7:23:22 AM PDT by FrPR
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