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Teddy Roosevelt on Immigration
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Posted on 03/29/2006 7:50:20 AM PST by narby

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; assimilation; borderlist; immigration; invasion; teddyroosevelt; whackypedia
There are no significant numbers of politicians promising to do what it takes to remove illegals from this country. If we can't get politicians to even promise something, then you can bet they won't do it.

So we're going to have to deal with 10+ million illegals somehow. The answer today is the same as it was in Teddy's day, assimilation. And the obstruction to doing that is liberalism, not the illegals themselves. We need to be fighting the liberals about assimilating new arrivals, rather than beating our heads on the wall of sending illegals home. Because that's just not going to happen, even if it is the "right" thing that should be done.

1 posted on 03/29/2006 7:50:21 AM PST by narby
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To: narby

The Congress and the President are desperate to get this issue off the table, and they will do ANYTHING to America and its real citizens to make that happen. They are worried about votes, not America. Power and control are the top priority in Washington -- not doing what is right for America, and what the WILL OF THE MAJORITY dictates.

Washington is a disgrace and I am sure, a MAJOR embarrasment to our founding fathers.


2 posted on 03/29/2006 7:54:04 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: narby
We have room for but one flag, the American flag

Teddy would've been horrified to witness the sea of red, white, & green at the "protests" this last week.

We need to be fighting the liberals about assimilating new arrivals, rather than beating our heads on the wall of sending illegals home.

No, we need to discourage them from coming here in the first place and provide incentive for the ones already here to march back to their homeland. How? By cutting off their taxpayer freebies and heavily fining employers who hire them.

3 posted on 03/29/2006 7:57:04 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: narby

Why can't Washington grasp this simple formula?


4 posted on 03/29/2006 7:57:23 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Plus, no right to vote, and no citizenship for their spawn.


5 posted on 03/29/2006 7:58:42 AM PST by 4U2OUI
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To: narby

Teddy Roosevelt ping!


6 posted on 03/29/2006 7:59:14 AM PST by i_dont_chat (I defend the right to offend!)
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To: narby

Teddy Roosevelt on immigration:

Puerto Rico and Panama look out baby cuz here we come. We are looking for a better economic future yo!



I say we apply the same doctrine today and air drop 500,000 hardy indivuduals to find their economic pot of gold in some oil rich parts of Mexico and Venezuela. Hey, this stuff works both ways. This civil invasion business is s sloppery slip.


7 posted on 03/29/2006 7:59:22 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: 4U2OUI

Correct. .....the anchor baby laws have to go.


8 posted on 03/29/2006 7:59:40 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
By cutting off their taxpayer freebies and heavily fining employers who hire them.

And 6 months to 1 year in a federal penitentiary.
9 posted on 03/29/2006 7:59:46 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: JamesP81

that's teh only moral solution. to punish the worker and not the profiteer is morally bankrupt.


10 posted on 03/29/2006 8:00:29 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: Mr. Mojo

No, we need to discourage them from coming here in the first place and provide incentive for the ones already here to march back to their homeland. How? By cutting off their taxpayer freebies and heavily fining employers who hire them.
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Exactly. The liberal sickness that set these criminals up in the first place needs to be terminated. And the concept of "anchor babies" needs to be squashed. That is total BS. The entire thing is such a huge mess, fostered and perpetuated by Washington pols....our great "leaders". And of course, they have done an excellent job of protecting themselves from any serious accountability...their priorities are very clear.


11 posted on 03/29/2006 8:00:52 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Colorado Doug

Republicans want the legal vote, while the Democrats want the illegal votes, we are stuck in the middle..


12 posted on 03/29/2006 8:01:23 AM PST by just me
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To: EagleUSA
Washington is a disgrace and I am sure, a MAJOR embarrasment to our founding fathers.

I can see Bush's finger prints all over what's going on right now. One of his priorities when he ran in 2000 was to normalize this situation.

I've noticed reports in the last year of tightening on the border, with employers of illegals griping they can't get enough workers. This ramps up the pressure on their side to ask for some kind of guest worker program.

Also, It's apparent that the Catholic Bishops have helped organize a lot of these marches. These were synchronized with a full-court-press in the senate by the Republicans. This is like when Reagan worked with John Paul II against the communists. It's good to see Bush has the brains to work quietly with the Catholic church.

All these things didn't happen by chance. Bush is synchronizing a very large effort to turn up the heat on everybody involved so that he can get a permanent and workable fix for this.

The greatest disgrace would be if nothing were done. Bush is making d@mn sure that something gets done. It won't be perfect, and nobody will be entirely happy. But I believe we will be better off if we can get the "illegal" stigma out of the way, and begin to assimilate these people. We simply must do that, or this country becomes Mexico North. Not by "revolution", but with demographics.

13 posted on 03/29/2006 8:04:34 AM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: narby

That's my Teddy--actually my great-grandmother's second cousin.

Sure glad I am related to Teddy and not Bush. If I were related to Bush, I would expunge the family tree.


14 posted on 03/29/2006 8:06:04 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: narby

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1604618/posts


15 posted on 03/29/2006 8:06:55 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Oh well. Great minds think alike. Who would have thought that a 90 year old quote would be pulled up twice. I didn't even look.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 8:09:23 AM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: EagleUSA; just me
They are worried about votes, not America

If the GOP is so worried about votes they'd do everything within their power to stop this invasion/amnesty, for there's no way in the RNC's wildest dreams that these people would ever vote Republican. ....no matter how enthusiastic their pandering/ass-kissing.

And of course the GOP should be worried about losing a significant number of their traditional voters if they continue to pursue this course. I'm sure they believe that we have "nowhere else to go," but they're dead wrong.

17 posted on 03/29/2006 8:09:27 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: narby

Bush is synchronizing a very large effort to turn up the heat on everybody involved so that he can get a permanent and workable fix for this.
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Yeah, it is called AMNESTY, all at the expense of the American citizen. This cannot be sugar-coated. Curing the symptom rather than the cause, is a failure and a cop-out upon American soverigty and the rights and majority mandates of REAL U.S. citizens. Bush has had SIX YEARS to do something meaningful with this situation and has done nothing tangible. I disagree he is in control of this or is in any way going to fix the real problem. With liberal leftist morons like McCain and Kennedy trying hard for AMNESTY, willing to give away America, its laws and soverignty and reward law-breaking criminals with citizenship is onto itself the real testimony about where our Congress sits on this issue...for once I agree with Frist and his position on this issue. Too bad his voice will be lost in the oinking of the vote-greedy Congress...


18 posted on 03/29/2006 8:12:34 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: narby
So we're going to have to deal with 10+ million illegals somehow.

No, they will have to deal with you!

Let me explain:

1] the number is low--probably 15 million.

2] about 5 million are here that came here illegally in the 1980s-early 90s and have become citizens but never assimilated and fly the Mexican flag. That takes it to 20 million.

3] Once manest hits, all the chicos and chicas, tias and tios, primas and primos, and dozens of other relatives and even amigas and amigos will find there way here in a hurry--add on about 50 million more. That takes it to 70 million.

4] the birth rate. The birth rate of theirs dwarfs the birth rate of American citizens. Look to add another 50 million babies real quick. That takes it to 120 million.

5] As quickly as you must say, "Debo apprender Espanol", we will be in the minority, the slum USA will be ruled by Mexicans, and we will be the ones carrying banners begging for representation that they control. The Senate, the House and the White House will be run by Mexicans.

Buy stock in Taco Bell and Pepto Bismo. Store water. (and ammo)

19 posted on 03/29/2006 8:14:07 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: narby
and begin to assimilate these people.

Assimilation is an impossibility when you're dealing with a people who view a large portion of the U.S. as Mexican land. They have no intention of ever assimilating, and they never will (despite our best efforts).

Again, providing incentive for them to go back home (and to never come here in the first place) is the only answer.

20 posted on 03/29/2006 8:14:27 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: narby
The true figure is more like 18 - 20 million The U.S. government is lying to us when they claim only 10 - 12 million illegals are in the country. Time to build the fence. Lock down the borders!
21 posted on 03/29/2006 8:25:53 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Again, providing incentive for them to go back home (and to never come here in the first place) is the only answer.

It might be your "only answer". But it isn't going to happen.

So now what?

22 posted on 03/29/2006 8:26:49 AM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: narby
Answering a DJ’s Call to March
23 posted on 03/29/2006 8:29:32 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: narby
So now what?

I already told you, assimilation of these people into American culture is an impossiblility. So if the measures I (and many other Americans) recommended are duly ignored by the braindeads in Washington, prepare yourself to eventually assimilate into Mexican culture.

24 posted on 03/29/2006 8:31:46 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: narby

ping


25 posted on 03/29/2006 9:02:04 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: EagleUSA
"Washington is a disgrace and I am sure, a MAJOR embarrasment to our founding fathers."

Total agreement here. I would even go a step farther.

The citizens that elect these nincompoops in DC are the real embarassment to our American legacy.

Thomas Jefferson (I think he was the one) said that American soil needs to be irrigated with blood every so often, both the blood of invaders and the blood of patriots.

26 posted on 03/29/2006 9:16:52 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: Mr. Mojo

We need to get these invaders back to there own country before it is to late.


27 posted on 03/29/2006 9:27:45 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Andy from Beaverton; narby

From that other thread, you will see that Teddy Roosevelt was for "UNLIMITED" legal immigration - would either of you agree with that?


28 posted on 03/29/2006 9:28:28 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: narby

"Bush is making d@mn sure that something gets done. It won't be perfect, and nobody will be entirely happy. But I believe we will be better off if we can get the "illegal" stigma out of the way, and begin to assimilate these people. We simply must do that, or this country becomes Mexico North. Not by "revolution", but with demographics."

Tolerance is the virtue of a person with no convictions!
Appeasement is the trait of a person with no balls.

I think both of these lines suit you quite well.


29 posted on 03/29/2006 11:54:30 AM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: B4Ranch

You seem to be dealing out the personal insults today. Why is it that you do that when people disagree with you?


30 posted on 03/29/2006 12:15:33 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: B4Ranch
Tolerance is the virtue of a person with no convictions! Appeasement is the trait of a person with no balls. I think both of these lines suit you quite well.

And throwing insults is a window into your character.

31 posted on 03/29/2006 12:16:37 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: Mr. Mojo
I already told you, assimilation of these people into American culture is an impossiblility. So if the measures I (and many other Americans) recommended are duly ignored by the braindeads in Washington, prepare yourself to eventually assimilate into Mexican culture.

Since Washington isn't going to do anything, and you've surrendered on the job of assimilation, then I guess we'll soon be mexican.

32 posted on 03/29/2006 12:18:29 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Especially Ammo


33 posted on 03/29/2006 12:28:04 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: narby
"Since Washington isn't going to do anything...."

Washington may do what's necessary if we turn up the burner high enough. Are you surrendering?

"And you've surrendered on the job of assimilation"

It's not my resonsibility to get those Mexican nationalists (both legal and illegal) to assimilate, it's theirs. .....and as I've made perfectly clear, they're not going to do it. Continue to live in your fantasy world if you must.

34 posted on 03/29/2006 12:58:10 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: narby

It's not our job, it's theirs to assimilate. They don't want to, don't you get it? Didn't those foreigners flying their colors on US soil bring that home to you? Brave and honorable men fought to keep this country free of tyranny and invasion, and we won't surrender to this communist threat from the south.


35 posted on 03/29/2006 1:07:39 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench
It's not our job, it's theirs to assimilate. They don't want to, don't you get it?

Actually, a lot of them do. But we're making it difficult telling them daily that they're "illegal". So we not only physically make it difficult to assimilate, because they must hide in the barrio lest the Border Patrol snag them, but we're also giving a bad example of what it is to be "American". Which from their vantage point looks like a bunch of tight fisted bosses and people reminding them that they're "illegal" and not wanted here.

All the above needs to change.

36 posted on 03/29/2006 1:26:18 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: narby
Oh, please, the BP isn't actively looking for any of them. Notice how freely and boldly walk about?

America was built on the rule of law not men. That's what set us apart. I'm not willing to live under their system (rule of men), and they'll learn about our system (rule of law) by getting their butts kicked back over the border.

They need to be reminded daily that they're here illegally, just as small business owners are when they play by the thousand rules govt. set up for that purpose. Like taking out for taxes. The illegal business men (rule of men) are hurting the rule of law businesses.

I could go on. You're just wrong on this.

37 posted on 03/29/2006 1:40:12 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: MineralMan

Today I am really ticked off that the man who was elected to protect this country is ignoring his Oath of Office. Remember back in the days when I used to type President Bush? Have you noticed that now I refer him to Bush. I have lost every single iota of respect for that an that I ever once held. I am pissed that he is pissing on the Presidents Oath of Office.

You are just catching the overflow.


38 posted on 03/29/2006 2:13:52 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: narby

Insults or is it the truth that I am throwing your way? I think it is the truth.


39 posted on 03/29/2006 2:15:21 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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