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'Cry Baby' Study Has Blogs Bawling
CBS News ^ | March 29, 2006

Posted on 03/29/2006 11:30:40 AM PST by presidio9

The usual suspects are crying out about a study suggesting whiny babies become conservative adults. Plus, bloggers herald news of 8.5 million Chinese moving into cities. And, are comic book publishers keeping a super hero from the public?

Oh Baby!

It's been a busy couple of weeks for social scientists. This week, psychologist Jack Block's controversial study is heating up the blogosphere, making it one of the most-cited news stories of the week.

Block's study began in the 1960's when he began tracking over 100 nursery school kids in Berkely, California as part of a study of personality. Teachers and assistants who had known the kids for months rated the children's personalities.

A few decades later, Block followed up with more surveys, and this time, also looked at politics. What did he find? The "whiny kids" tended to grow up conservative, becoming rigid young adults who also adhered closely to traditional gender roles. The confident kids, however, turned out to be politically liberal, transforming into bright, non-conforming adults.

Block's findings did not surprise many conservative bloggers who hardly think Berkeley babies are a random sample. Michelle Malkin quotes an anonymous tipster who raises the point that "ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members. The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be 'studied' by psychologists all day every day."

Tiny’s Republican seconds that. "My first reaction is great, as long as they grow up conservative I don't care what they are like as kids," he writes. "Then I read the story...oh big surprise that this 'study'…was done by Berkeley profs and according to the article 95% of the 100-ish kids tracked grew up in Berkeley. I love how they describe those who became conservative as 'rigid!' Of course personality traits of the non-conservatives sound nice!"

And Coalition of the Swilling couldn't agree more. "Whenever I read stuff like this I'm reminded more and more of the old Soviet Science Academies and the 'facts' they would churn out. But maybe I should just quit whining..."

Others are instantly suspicious of any Berkeley study, never mind one about professors' babies. Speakspook writes, "Anything UC Berkeley comes up with is immediately suspect. If however, the study is valid, it would be an indication that whiny children grow up to be well adjusted adults with a positive outlook on life, while confident kids grow up to be unprincipled, amoral, ranting liberals."

Mike Stockinger on Uncorrelated writes, "The reality is that the Berkeley study has no bearing on people's political affiliations. Some Democrats are, in terms of the study, 'conservatives,' and many Republicans are 'liberal.' I do know a few whiny 'conservatives,' but most of the whining I hear always seems to come from self-identified 'liberals' er-r-r, I mean 'progressives'."

Liberal bloggers are not surprised by the findings either, albeit for different reasons. Liberal blogger John Aravosis at AMERICAblog writes, "What do Bill Frist, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Limbaugh, George Will, Dr. Laura, the Republican bloggers all have in common? Whiny insecure brats. What do Republicans stand for anyway? They're bullies who need the government to either blow up or regulate everyone and everything they're afraid of, which is pretty much everything. Sound familiar? Whereas liberals are the well-adjusted kid, the nice guy, live and let live..."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backoffimascientist; berkeley; junkscience; michellemalkin; wtfk
From an earlier thread, as revealed on Open Secrets, some recent political donations on the part of the impartial "scientist" who ran this study:

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 NOT EMPLOYED/RETIRED 9/30/2003 $2,000 Dean, Howard

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT BERKELE 6/30/2003 $2,000 Kucinich, Dennis J

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA BERKELEY/R 11/17/2004 $1,000 Council for a Livable World

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 N/A/RETIRED 3/2/2004 $500 America Coming Together

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 N/A/RETIRED 4/7/2004 $500 America Coming Together

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 NOT EMPLOYED/RETIRED 4/23/2004 $500 Democracy for America

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 PROFESSOR 3/1/2004 $500 Obama, Barack

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 RETIRED/PROFESSOR 5/15/2004 $500 Moveon.org

BLOCK, JACK EL CERRITO,CA 94530 UNIV/PROF 1/28/2005 $250 Progressive Vote

And that's just the first ten of sixty-seven records for the Good Doctor.

1 posted on 03/29/2006 11:30:41 AM PST by presidio9
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To: RightWingAtheist

ping


2 posted on 03/29/2006 11:32:20 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9
Block's study began in the 1960's when he began tracking over 100 nursery school kids in Berkely, California as

I'm sure 100 kids in Berkely is such a representative sample of America.

3 posted on 03/29/2006 11:34:19 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: presidio9
Republicans may well start out whining, but liberals remain that way throughout their lives. If anything, their condition only worsens.
4 posted on 03/29/2006 11:35:55 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: presidio9
While most Democratic babies turn into anti-American, immoral, lilly livered, apologetic, adult brats. Two can play this game.
6 posted on 03/29/2006 11:36:38 AM PST by Dallas59 (MOHAMMED LIED-PEOPLE DIED)
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Speakspook writes,

Whoever that is, that is a cool name. For a moment, I thought it said "Speakspoke". No first name listed in the article.

7 posted on 03/29/2006 11:37:25 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: presidio9
Whiny insecure brats. What do Republicans stand for anyway? They're bullies who need the government to either blow up or regulate everyone and everything they're afraid of,

Say what?

Last I checked, liberas are the ones who want to regulate everyone and everything. Talk about projection.

8 posted on 03/29/2006 11:38:23 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: presidio9

"If however, the study is valid, it would be an indication that whiny children grow up to be well adjusted adults with a positive outlook on life, while confident kids grow up to be unprincipled, amoral, ranting liberals."

Well, obviously the study is nowhere near valid, but I do like this guy's take.


9 posted on 03/29/2006 11:39:02 AM PST by bereanway
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To: presidio9

One must remember that in Berzerkly, anyone ever so slightly to right of Lenin is a "Conservative."


10 posted on 03/29/2006 11:40:26 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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To: presidio9

Man, once the MSM was really outted for the radically left-bent entities they really were, they didn't waste any time casting aside any pretext of being facts neutral. They are now openly and unabashedly Conservative trashers. Probably figure the only loyal audience available to them is the screaming libs, so might as well just jump in with both feet now.


11 posted on 03/29/2006 11:41:04 AM PST by Sax (Ahmagonnadoajihad - His name says it all)
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To: presidio9
LOL!

The thing is ... suppose the "whiny" kids did grow up to be "conservative" (whatever that means to Mr. Block).

The interesting question would be: why? Perhaps it's nothing more than little kids having a firmer sense of right and wrong.

12 posted on 03/29/2006 11:46:16 AM PST by r9etb
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To: presidio9

It just wasn't my experience that the whiny cry babies grew up to be the football players, the Airborne Rangers, the Greeen Berets, the Paratroops, the hunters, all these are overwhelmingly populated by conservatives.


13 posted on 03/29/2006 11:48:52 AM PST by ansel12
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To: presidio9

Berkeley has been nuts for years. They're supposed to be taken seriously? HAHAHAHAHA


14 posted on 03/29/2006 11:54:15 AM PST by Fudd Fan (Truth will set us all free. Libs will get us all killed.)
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To: presidio9

It's Berkeley. How seriously would you take a study on Roman Catholicism from Bob Jones U?


15 posted on 03/29/2006 11:59:06 AM PST by fzx12345 (Three lefts don't make a right; they invent one.)
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To: presidio9

So why aren't there more conservatives? It seems to me that MOST babies are whiny.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 12:00:43 PM PST by ConservativeChris
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To: dirtboy
For leftists, junk science 'R us

Excerpt:

"That’s ironic when you consider reality. After all, it’s liberals who have developed an unhealthful addiction to the state. They demand that government make all sorts of decisions - from retirement plans to the size of their toilets - for responsible adults. Who see conspiracies everywhere but in abortion clinics. Who still fixate on the 2000 presidential election and just can’t, if you’ll pardon the expression, move on.

Who are so emotionally fragile that Kerry’s loss sent them scurrying to mental health professionals in an effort to assuage their trauma and depression. At least one man was so distressed over the 2004 election that he blew his brains out with a shotgun. No doubt some study would have identified him as one of those active, vital, cheerful folks open to new experiences."

17 posted on 03/29/2006 12:03:58 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: presidio9
Block's study began in the 1960's when he began tracking over 100 nursery school kids in Berkely, California as part of a study of personality.

We learned from an earlier thread that the subjects were the children of "progressive" Berkley professors who were given free child care for the right to use their children as lab rats.

As posed in that earlier thread, all the kids who grew up conservative were probably already rebelling against their wacky parents, which is why they were pissed off.

18 posted on 03/29/2006 12:04:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: presidio9

Kids who spend most of their first five years with their parents may appear whiney and maladjusted to the leftist educrats.

We decided to try our local gubmint school for 1/2 day kindergarten when he was 5 yrs. When my wife took our son in to register they rather firmly said to my kid "O.K. you come with me" they wanted to bring him to an evaluation room. My wife started to come with them and the edumonster said "I didn't ask you to come." Nathan started to cry. The edunazi made some comment like "now how old is he" implying of course that this behaviour was not what their little leftist socialization model expected to see. My wife was so steamed. She had wanted to say. "This is what a securely attached kid does an adult tries to take them away from their parent you moron." But of course she just smiled and said, "I think we'll just call this off."

First, they know we are a conservative family so they start out not liking us, they project a certain set of condescending expectations on the interaction, then they interpret all results based on their leftist technocratic professionalized expectations grid. I'm sure she made some file notes that would have supported this idiots research conclusions and it would tell us more about them than us.


19 posted on 03/29/2006 12:07:51 PM PST by Rippin
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To: presidio9

The "study" is from a chronic ultra-lefist partisan faker who has created tons of this nonsense. Michelle Malkin utterly exposed him. The "experiment" was in a day care center, exclusively populated with fellow U. of Berkeley faculty members' children. Not one in thirty of these parents is Republican. This is NOT representative of American families.


20 posted on 03/29/2006 12:17:48 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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To: presidio9
The confident kids, however, turned out to be politically liberal, transforming into bright, non-conforming adults.


21 posted on 03/29/2006 12:19:29 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: presidio9
Block's study began in the 1960's when he began tracking over 100 nursery school kids in Berkely, California

That's all I need to know about this "study."

22 posted on 03/29/2006 12:20:50 PM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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Even more than just "Berkeley," the kindergarten was open only to professors and staff of UCB.

Any kid that grew up conservative either was a child of the math or physics department, or rebelled against its parents.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


23 posted on 03/29/2006 12:38:53 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: dirtboy

I might piss and moan as a child if I had to listen to a Berkely professor all day and night at home too.


24 posted on 03/29/2006 12:55:22 PM PST by SouthJrzReaganite18 (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. -Optimus Prime)
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To: presidio9

I suspect that if one did a scientific survey of the voter registration and party affiliation and political ideology of the residents of all the maximum security prisons, that the results would be quite predictable.


25 posted on 03/29/2006 12:59:04 PM PST by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: presidio9
I think the good Dr. Block should add the word "head" to his last name. I did a study too, and found that 100% of criminals, bed wetters, wussies, creeps, dorks, dipsticks, tattletalers, wimps, draft-dodgers, protesters,activists, editorial writers, newspaper reporters, t.v. reporters, anti-American, anti-religion,pro abortion, pro womens' lib,anti-war, pro Gore,anti-Bush, pro-Dean, pro-Schumer, pro-Kennedy, pro-Clinton, people are democrats, until they get a real job and earn a real living, and have to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay, then they suddenly become real conservatve and start voting Republican. I call this phenomenon "a reality check" on life in America.
26 posted on 03/29/2006 1:06:39 PM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: presidio9

Thanks!


27 posted on 03/29/2006 1:14:09 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: RightWingAtheist

Dont you just love it when liberals come out with this cr@p. It's just another example of their departure from reality. Childhood behavior as an indicator of adulthood political leanings? Absolutely laughable.


28 posted on 03/29/2006 1:37:01 PM PST by IX0YE
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To: IX0YE

Yet, you notice, the MSM picks up this crap ad runs it all over the t.v. and in the newspapers. Do make you wonder, don't it? Are they that afraid of folks that actually can think for themselves? Must be...


29 posted on 03/29/2006 2:02:33 PM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: ConservativeChris

30 posted on 03/29/2006 2:39:48 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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