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Death of a Hornet, and a Civilization
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 29 March 2006 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 03/29/2006 11:52:58 AM PST by Congressman Billybob

There are hornets in the siding of my home. Every time I smoke them out, they set up shop elsewhere. But today’s tale is about the ones inside. A few get in through the bathroom vent. They wear themselves out against the plate glass window, trying to escape. Eventually, they fall to the floor and die.

I realized this week that there is a lot in common between those dying hornets and civilization in the United States.

The dying hornets first lose their ability to fly, and then their ability to walk. But driven by ancient memories, they try to function until life fails. Isn’t that the bottom line of the immigration demonstrations in Los Angeles and elsewhere around the nation in the last week?

The ancient mantra for US civilization is that “we are a nation of immigrants.” That’s true. However, never before have millions of immigrants flooded across our borders, violating the law. To pretend that today is no different from yesterday on immigration is a lie. It is a lie intended to keep the borders open until the destruction of American civilization is beyond repair.

If half a million murderers and their supporters had rallied in Los Angeles in favor of amnesty for murderers, would anyone have taken that seriously? What if the murderers redefined themselves as “undocumented morticians?”

What if it was a half million bank robbers, who called themselves “undocumented depositors”? What about half a million rapists, who called themselves “undocumented suitors”?

The whole movement to keep the borders open, and to provide amnesty for illegal aliens already in the US, is a direct and deliberate attack on American civilization. And, how have American leaders responded? More than a few have given in, and joined the opposition. Such “leaders” are either fools, or cowards, or both.

They are fools if they think that Hispanic-Americans think alike on this subject. Those who live in the US legally, and are on the path to citizenship, or have become citizens, do NOT generally approve of open borders and amnesty. Hispanic-Americans are not monolithic on this subject. And connected to that is political fear. These “leaders” are pandering to the growing Hispanic vote; they are afraid to tell the truth in public.

I don’t believe the tide of illegal immigrants is the sole or even the principal cause of the decline – and eventual fall – of American civilization. A “mass demonstration” of just five Supreme Court Justices is capable of savaging the US Constitution. They’ve done it many times. The US will not fall until its Constitution is either overturned, or merely damaged beyond repair.

A “mass demonstration” of millions of union-allied teachers, who never even leave their classrooms, is capable of destroying the education of the next generation of Americans. They are in the process of doing it now. The messy way to destroy a nation is to attack and defeat it militarily. The slow but steady way is to destroy the education which should be passed down to the next generation, and the one after that. After all, education is the means of passing on a civilization. Break that link, and a civilization will die of starvation.

A “mass demonstration” of millions of “youths” who are glued to their TVs, or wired into their I-Pods anywhere in the known universe, are the crest of the tidal wave that is sweeping over America. Many, not all, of these youths have no real knowledge of where America came from, or where it is headed. Worst of all, these youths sabotage themselves with their belief that the world owes them a living.

Mind you, I’m not looking down my nose at these youths. There was a time when my knowledge of this nation was a sparse as theirs. There was also a time I thought the world owed me a living. It didn’t, and it promptly taught me that lesson.

The problem comes when millions of Americans, or would-be Americans, come to believe that because they are so many, they do not have to obey the laws. A jail break is still a jail break, even if the “criminals” are not trying to escape, but trying to keep from being jailed in the first place.

A nation which cannot control its borders, cannot control its future. That’s why the demonstrations in Los Angeles reminded me of that hornet, dying on my bathroom floor. American civilization is dying before our eyes. The question is whether enough people will care enough, to pull us back from the brink.

About the Author: John Armor is candidate for Congress in the 11th District of North Carolina. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


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This subject is of strong interest to Freepers. I think you'll like this article.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 03/29/2006 11:53:00 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
"Never before have millions of immigrants flooded across our borders, violating the law."

And that is indeed the problem.

2 posted on 03/29/2006 11:57:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I think you'll like this article.

You think right. Outstanding piece.

3 posted on 03/29/2006 11:57:59 AM PST by jmc813 (I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Your hornets were trying to escape from someplace they did not intend to be in and died in the process. The illegals are intentionally trying to get in and stay in, come hell or high fences. True enough, some die in the process, but it is their own flaunting of the laws of our great nation that got them in trouble in the first place. Hornets are one thing, no consciousness or thought, just programmed by God. People are another. They can and do make choices for which they must take responsibility for their actions........
4 posted on 03/29/2006 11:59:47 AM PST by Red Badger (I must not fear.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I agree. And I like the article. Thanks.


5 posted on 03/29/2006 12:02:25 PM PST by Visalia
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To: Congressman Billybob

I prefer to think of them as fire ants, but good analogy nonetheless.


6 posted on 03/29/2006 12:04:26 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Congressman Billybob

If illegal Hispanics get everything they demand, then legal Hispanics will go along to get along...join in with demands for special treatment, Aztlan, La Raza, whatever. Why not? What's not to like? (Just like moderate Muslims and Jihadists. Same methodology at work.) Or more simply, the creaking wheel gets the grease, and every other wheel knows it.


7 posted on 03/29/2006 12:09:10 PM PST by hershey
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To: Congressman Billybob

The article is spot on and extremely depressing. But nothing's accomplished by denial.


8 posted on 03/29/2006 12:10:23 PM PST by hershey
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To: Congressman Billybob
Never in the past have I felt as though the people of the United States need to stop sending our taxes to the government. The citizens have a contract with the government: you provide defense, protect against invasion and apply the rule of law, and in return you have the right to tax us to pay for these things. The United States government is in breech of this contract and it is high time to change all w-4s to 'exempt' and all 941s to zero. If you're not going to prosecute 15 million illegal aliens, you sure as hell aren't going to prosecute 250 million citizens refusing to pay your taxes. This is by far the worst, spineless and legally bankrupt Congress that has darkened the halls of the Capitol. Our country is being destroyed, the citizens don't want it to happen, and our so-called representatives are selling us down the river for potential votes. Both the Legislative and Executive branches have gotten us into the situation now, which we have an army of over 15 million people residing in our country illegally and NOTHING is being done about. Furthermore, if a Beslan or a biological or dirty nuke goes off in our country the whole lot of Congress should be hung from lampposts for not securing the borders. /rant off
9 posted on 03/29/2006 12:10:54 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Red Badger

I think the analogy he's trying to draw is between the hornet's doomed efforts at escape and the belief in the US that immigration is a good thing. We keep reacting to stimuli in a time honored fashion, just as the hornet seeks the light through a window that ultimately dooms it, and in our case accept the argument that this recent wave of immigration is just like all the rest in our history when in fact it will kill our civilization.


10 posted on 03/29/2006 12:12:17 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Joe 6-pack

"I prefer to think of them as fire ants, but good analogy nonetheless."

Termites.


11 posted on 03/29/2006 12:14:19 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks for the post. Nice job and accurate.


12 posted on 03/29/2006 12:14:58 PM PST by DocRock
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To: DocRock

13 posted on 03/29/2006 12:17:41 PM PST by DocRock
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To: Congressman Billybob
I think you'll like this article.

YES

14 posted on 03/29/2006 12:19:08 PM PST by A message
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To: Congressman Billybob
It would probably shock many here to know that I agree with you 100%. I think where you and I might part, is on how we deal with the current situation. I think you would agree that we wont be deporting the 11-13 million people that are already here. So what then? It appears to me that the best thing we can do, is to get these people registered and taxed under the THREAT of deportation after a period of legal employment. The alternative is just more of the same in one case, but in the worse case, we lose the Republican majority and allow Democrats to open the flood gates, handing a ballot to each person as they cross the border, pre-filled with Democrat selections.

This is where we must be careful, and not be governed by our passions. We have to think about the short-and-long term ramifications of our actions. Losing the majority is the absolute worst thing that can happen, because not only do you lose this issue, you lose EVERY issue. Especially when we are just ONE NAME AWAY on the Supreme Court from turning the clock back on 45 years of Liberal policies.

Of course, we must enforce the borders, but not by turning people who have been here 5-10-20 years into felons. I cant think of an easier way to send Republicans back into the dark ages.

Great article, as usual.

15 posted on 03/29/2006 12:19:22 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"American civilization is dying before our eyes"

That is so chicken sh*t; What is dying is liberalism- that is why it is so loud.

The problem is in the open and is on everyones' tongue. There are 300 million Americans. Mexico is what has to change. The Mexican government has to begin taking responsibility for its citizens and should be forced.

American Businesses have to be held respobsible. If their are no jobs for illegals their own families will force them home.

We have a lot of power to take control. Let the losers scream. At least we know where and who they are.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 12:21:25 PM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
The United States government is in breech of this contract and it is high time to change all w-4s to 'exempt' and all 941s to zero. If you're not going to prosecute 15 million illegal aliens, you sure as hell aren't going to prosecute 250 million citizens refusing to pay your taxes

I was thinking the exact thoughts this morning.

17 posted on 03/29/2006 12:21:36 PM PST by A message
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To: Pukin Dog

The Pubbies in the Senate have a chance to lead, and are punting as usual.


18 posted on 03/29/2006 12:22:29 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
It time to stop attacking our folks and start offering constructive solutions. These are our representatives, not our slaves. We owe them more than anger and wrath. We should be thinking about the big picture, and not becoming single-issue voters.
19 posted on 03/29/2006 12:26:23 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Pukin,

I agree that we cannot simply round up 13 million illegals and dump them across the border. What we CAN do is find them all, identify them with fingerprints and DNA, and round up and dump all the ones who commit minor crimes (like non-violent theft). Ones who commit major crimes would serve their time, and then be dumped.

Anyone who comes back across the border after being dumped would serve hard time, and then be dumped again. And, all who got dumped would be permanently inneligible for legal immigration, permanently.

We need to reinstate a version of the bracero program which existed from 1942 through 1964. In that, Mexico controlled ITS side of the border, and only an agreed number of Mexicans were admitted to work, and Mexico was part of the guarantee that they would ultimately return to Mexico.

I am appalled that the press, in their gross historical ignorance, have never mentioned the bracero program in reporting on this subject.

John / Billybob
20 posted on 03/29/2006 12:27:48 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com RIGHT NOW. I need your help.)
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To: Porterville

Exactly. Why isn't THAT the issue. Why is it easier to allow 15 million people (and many more if the laws are not enforced) to invade our country than it is to apply pressure to Mexico to fix their corrupt system. Mexico has huge natural resources and an obviously hard-working populance. It should be doing very well.


21 posted on 03/29/2006 12:28:52 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: A message
If you're not going to prosecute 15 million illegal aliens, you sure as hell aren't going to prosecute 250 million citizens refusing to pay your taxes

I am almost there.

22 posted on 03/29/2006 12:30:47 PM PST by deltabravo
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To: Congressman Billybob
A nation which cannot control its borders, cannot control its future.

People will take the easy path. Always.

Right now, it is easier for these immigrants to be illegal than legal, and so that's what they do. Therefore the solution is to reverse this, and make it easier to be legal than illegal.

It can be done by draconian efforts on the border. Or by making legality very easy. Or any combination of the two, so long as the result is that it's easier to be legal than illegal.

Simply shutting down the border and throwing 10 million people out of the country just isn't in the cards. The political class just doesn't have the heart to do it. We can't even get politicians to "promise" they'll send illegals home. And if a politician won't even promise something, then you know good and well they won't do it.

Since we're at least stuck with the illegals we have, then we'd best stop beating each other up and instead beat up on the liberals so we can assimilate those illegals that are here and make "Americans" out of them.

Everyone should read the quote from Teddy Roosevelt on that subject that's in a couple of threads yesterday and today.

23 posted on 03/29/2006 12:31:05 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: Congressman Billybob

24 posted on 03/29/2006 12:31:25 PM PST by fishtank
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To: dljordan

Termites, yes; my analogy all along.

I have termites in my desk, they leave their droppings underneath for me to sweep and mop away; I deported a few million from my attic, but I suspect they've sneaked back during the times I sleep.

We are at a standoff right now as I must file and pay my taxes before I will have enough money saved to to make one final sweep and rid my home of the voracious horde before they finish off my house and move on to the next.


25 posted on 03/29/2006 12:32:03 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I think that we need to reject once and for all this "nation of immigrants" slogan. It was not all the immigrants who built this nation: it was the pioneers. The pioneers made this a country worth reaching for the later arrivals.

Everyone would react with distaste if someone demanded special rights for having had ancestors on the Mayflower. In the same way, we should react with distaste and scorn when new arrivals try to take credit for things that earlier, completely unrelated immigrants might have accomplished. Coming here illegally and mowing lawns is not building the country.

As for the politicians who allowed this to happen, it includes some of our very favorites. I am thinking in particular of Ronald Reagan, who allowed through the first amnesty, when anyone knows that one amnesty always leads to another, and another, and another.

Good people can be misled by sentimentality. It is a fatal mistake.


26 posted on 03/29/2006 12:32:47 PM PST by docbnj
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To: Pukin Dog

Good post #15. I knew a pilot would be level headed on this.


27 posted on 03/29/2006 12:34:16 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: Pukin Dog

They break the law when they cross the border; deciding now to admit this is only 10,20,30 years too late - they've been criminals all along.


28 posted on 03/29/2006 12:34:29 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I agree that we cannot simply round up 13 million illegals and dump them across the border. What we CAN do is find them all, identify them with fingerprints and DNA, and round up and dump all the ones who commit minor crimes (like non-violent theft). Ones who commit major crimes would serve their time, and then be dumped.

Agreed.

These are the messages that our people in Congress should be sending. If they changed the message to one about National Security, they would have a much better chance combating the MSM on the issue.

Look forward to all sorts of Media displays of children who's fathers have been deported, leaving the taxpayer to feed him, because we wouldn't let his father stay in America and work. Count on it. The local media here (San Diego) has already started that crap.

I don't know about Bracero now, because Mexico is essentially an anarchy state which sees America as it's pot of gold. They intend to bleed us dry. I'm told there are some significant changes coming to the White House communications office, so maybe they are in the process of getting their message together. They have time, because everything going on in Congress right now is just show. Nothing is going to be done before the election. Not a damn thing.

29 posted on 03/29/2006 12:34:32 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

bttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Required reading for all FReepers and lovers of justice and the USA anywhere and everywhere.


30 posted on 03/29/2006 12:35:22 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
“...we are a nation of immigrants.” That’s true."

No, actually it isn't. We are not a "nation of immigrants." This is both a factual error and a warm-and-fuzzy non sequitur. 85% of the residents currently in the United States were born here. Sure, we are almost all descendants of immigrants. But we are not a "nation of immigrants."

31 posted on 03/29/2006 12:35:27 PM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: Pukin Dog

Dog, I very much respect your opinion, but I am thinking about the big issues. The laws have not been enforced, now we have a huge problem. Congress consistently ducks big issues. The 20,000 plus people in the Phoenix march, as peaceful as it was, looked like an army. I don't want to see a Beslan in my childrens' schools; our borders are wide open. Congress is not our slaves, but they are supposed to be acting in our best interests, and in that they are sadly failing. The Pubbies have the Presidency, the Senate and the House. It's high time to do what's best for the country, and not what's best for someone's re-election chances.


32 posted on 03/29/2006 12:36:23 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: hershey

"If illegal Hispanics get everything they demand, then legal Hispanics will go along to get along...join in with demands for special treatment"

And your basis for your statement is....?

What you might not realize, is the majority of hispanics who are here legaly have been here for generations and deeply resent illegals. Here in Az we(hispanics) voted for Prop 200 57% to 43%, the press fails to emphasize that fact, and no, we will not join the illegals to get along!!!!


33 posted on 03/29/2006 12:37:36 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Well written.


34 posted on 03/29/2006 12:37:44 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: sean327

That is my understanding as well, which is why I wonder why the Congress fears the hispanic vote. The people affected by this can't vote.


35 posted on 03/29/2006 12:39:47 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: docbnj
I am thinking in particular of Ronald Reagan, who allowed through the first amnesty

That was supposedly accompanied by an increase in border security. But it didn't work for lots of reasons, including that various administrations just didn't want to enforce it.

It's time for a permanent solution. And whether some like it or not, that solution has to include a way for a whole lot more "legal" people to come here and work. Whatever the details, these people are going to come here, so any attempt to limit their number will only balkanize them, which is what the liberals want.

I think the optimum solution for America is to welcome them here as Teddy Roosevelt's generation did, and assimilate them into the American culture. If they stay "illegal", that won't happen.

36 posted on 03/29/2006 12:42:27 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
Sure, we are almost all descendants of immigrants. But we are not a "nation of immigrants."

Passionatly arguing semantics is a waste of time. You know what he meant and he knows what you meant.

The real bad guys are the liberals, and what they want is the status quo maintained. That is what we should *not* want.

37 posted on 03/29/2006 12:45:32 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
I don't want to see a Beslan in my childrens' schools;

The problem now is that a terrorist can blend in with all the other illegals. The genuine solution for security is to make some pathway for these people to come here and work via a legal means.

If we do that, then the odd truck crossing the border illegally is guaranteed to be some kind of serious lawbreaker and will stand out like a sore thumb and will be caught. As it is now, they merely blend in with the flow.

38 posted on 03/29/2006 12:48:53 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Immigration will cause the Mexican-born population in the U.S. to at least double by 2030, reaching 16 to 18 million regardless of economic conditions in Mexico.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back202.html



What happens when California, or New Mexico becomes 75% Mexicans and they choose to seceded from the union? Civil War.
39 posted on 03/29/2006 12:49:50 PM PST by TheForceOfOne (El Chupacabra spotted near U.S./Mexican border feeding on illegal immigrants. Pass it on..)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Never in the past have I felt as though the people of the United States need to stop sending our taxes to the government. The citizens have a contract with the government: you provide defense, protect against invasion and apply the rule of law, and in return you have the right to tax us to pay for these things. The United States government is in breech of this contract and it is high time to change all w-4s to 'exempt' and all 941s to zero. If you're not going to prosecute 15 million illegal aliens, you sure as hell aren't going to prosecute 250 million citizens refusing to pay your taxes.

You're absolutely correct. The only problem is: who goes first? Next month, 250 million tax returns will go in to the IRS as scheduled because everyone is too afraid that if they don't send one in, they will be the only people who don't. Besides, people want their refund checks...
40 posted on 03/29/2006 12:52:55 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Pukin Dog

If we are not going to deport 11 million illegals we certainly aren't going to register them and make them pay taxes. If we aren't going to enforce the law now why would we do it later?


41 posted on 03/29/2006 12:54:17 PM PST by Ajnin (I)
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To: TheForceOfOne
What happens when California, or New Mexico becomes 75% Mexicans and they choose to seceded from the union? Civil War.

It won't if we've assimilated them in the mean time.

The liberals have got to be loving this. They like the idea of massive numbers of illegals, because their illegal status balkanizes them and they can be controlled easier.

Conservatives need to realize that this problem seriously needs to be fixed. And at the same time realize that our choices as to how to do it are limited.

42 posted on 03/29/2006 12:54:53 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: Congressman Billybob; All
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For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


43 posted on 03/29/2006 12:54:53 PM PST by backhoe
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To: narby
It's time for a permanent solution. And whether some like it or not, that solution has to include a way for a whole lot more "legal" people to come here and work.

You guest worker people declare this like it is the 11th commandment from Mt. Sinai; however the "why" this solution has to be implemented is the elephant in the room. The answer to that is "business wants cheap labor," and that's an answer that loses elections.
44 posted on 03/29/2006 12:55:03 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Pukin Dog
These are our representatives, not our slaves.

Are they really our representatives? I'm honestly not so sure anymore. What worries me is that our future generations will end up being the slaves. We're going into deeper and deeper debt every year, and we're being asked to help shoulder the burden for more and more people every year. How much in taxes are our grandchildren going to be forced to pay in fifty years?

45 posted on 03/29/2006 12:58:08 PM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: Congressman Billybob

BTTT!


46 posted on 03/29/2006 1:00:22 PM PST by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
The laws have not been enforced, now we have a huge problem.

In America, there has only been one law that have ever been enforced on a consistent basis, that being the law of TAXATION.

When the police cant find you, and the FBI cant find you, you can bet your ass that the IRS can and WILL find you and make you pay. If you want to have any control over immigration at all, it begins with registering and taxing illegals.

Criminalization is a waste of time and resources.

47 posted on 03/29/2006 1:00:59 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
If you're not going to prosecute 15 million illegal aliens, you sure as hell aren't going to prosecute 250 million citizens refusing to pay your taxes.

Unfortunately we don't have special interest groups representing us to line the pockets of our weasel politicos so they are sure to be reelected for another term. They are bought and paid for by the big business, open borders oligarchy. You better believe the government would jail every last person that did not pay their taxes.

48 posted on 03/29/2006 1:02:46 PM PST by One_American
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To: Pukin Dog
It time to stop attacking our folks and start offering constructive solutions. These are our representatives, not our slaves. We owe them more than anger and wrath. We should be thinking about the big picture, and not becoming single-issue voters.

Solution: - wall on the southern border to prevent illegal entry into the US.

- a substantial fine against any employer who hires an illegal alien, the loss of all federal/DOE funds to any school that educates an illegal, and the loss of all medicare/medicaid disbursments to any hospital or doctor who treats an illegal.

The wall is necessary to prevent illegal entry by terrorists, not just economically motivated migrants. The policy change takes care of those whose motivation is economic.

This isn't rocket science, but if you are a politician in the pocket of the "low wage lobby", it isn't something you want to do. As far as being single issue voters, there are certain things that are sacred to certain philosophies. Maintaining the integrity of our nation is as vital to conservative philosophy as gay marriage and abortion are to a liberal philosphy. You betray such commandments at your own political peril.
49 posted on 03/29/2006 1:03:02 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Ajnin
If we are not going to deport 11 million illegals we certainly aren't going to register them and make them pay taxes.

Clearly, you don't know the IRS very well. In fact, the IRS is the only agency in government that I can trust to perform its duties without fail.

50 posted on 03/29/2006 1:03:07 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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