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Congress Told of More ATF Abuses, Reforms Suggested
CNSNews.com ^ | March 29, 2006 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 03/29/2006 12:40:56 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 03/29/2006 12:40:58 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Joe Brower
BANG! JBT PING
2 posted on 03/29/2006 12:42:27 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Well, what do you expect?


3 posted on 03/29/2006 12:45:02 PM PST by Jason_b
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To: neverdem
Lara said he is still baffled by the agency's actions.

That's like an IRS agent being baffled about his home being seized.

4 posted on 03/29/2006 12:45:16 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: neverdem

All that clipping BATF wings will do is make them meaner and sneakier. I don't believe they would ever hire anyone who is not opposed to RKBA.


5 posted on 03/29/2006 12:45:39 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: neverdem

make it simple. ATF demands 100% perfection. check their records, if ONE record of theirs is out of order, indict them all.


6 posted on 03/29/2006 12:46:24 PM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: neverdem

Audrey Stucko, Deputy Assistant Director for ATF, is willful idiot.

Willful means just shy of intentional --- and more than reckless.

Fire her.


7 posted on 03/29/2006 12:47:56 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: neverdem
Always amazes me that the ATF has all kinds of time and money to go after misspellings, and yet no one has time to check the immigration status of anyone.
8 posted on 03/29/2006 12:48:37 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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More news about our favorite people.

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9 posted on 03/29/2006 12:49:55 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: neverdem
The guy should consider himself a little poorer but lucky!

Lucky they didn't shoot him or his female friend.

Lucky the AFT didn't burn his home down with him and his family in it.

God help anyone that runs up against these idiots.

I sure hope the AFT don't have a budget review coming up soon.

10 posted on 03/29/2006 12:50:13 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: neverdem
Congress Told of More ATF Abuses, Reforms Suggested

Suggested? Suggested!? I thought Federal Agencies worked for Congress (which in turn are supposed to work for Us).

Silly me.

11 posted on 03/29/2006 12:51:02 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: neverdem
"On my first day back to work I was given a 40-hour suspension without pay for 'criminal activity' because I had been indicted," Lara continued. "My professional career is shot. It's now been three years after the event and I am still a patrol lieutenant. It was made clear to me when I returned to work that I would never see any advancement."

Why is the Tuscon PD being so harsh on him if he was cleared of the charges?
12 posted on 03/29/2006 12:54:09 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: neverdem
The level of competence in ATF management seems on a par with what would be required to separate garbage at the local city dump.

The ATF representative present at the hearing did not address Lara's case, but Kristen Rand, legislative director for the anti-gun Violence Policy Center, did. "Mr. [sic] Lara's situation sounds extremely unpleasant," Rand said, "but we should be careful not to just legislate based on one anecdote."

What a jackass. Someone should rip this idiot's livelihood out from under him and give it to the abused party.

13 posted on 03/29/2006 12:55:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: neverdem
"Under the Gun Control Act, license revocation may be undertaken for any willful violation of the law or regulations," Stucko said. "The term 'willful' is not defined in the law."

It may not be defined in the law, but it is defined in the dictionary. Willful is an adjective meaning "obstinately and often perversely self-willed; done deliberately; intentional."

Thus, an error (such as a clerical error) is by definition not willful. On the other hand, the ATF's behavior as described in the article does appear to be willful.

14 posted on 03/29/2006 12:59:57 PM PST by Logophile
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To: neverdem

After watching these SOB's for over 20 years I'm convinced the agency should be abolished, its staff fired and its responsibilities turned over to the FBI.


15 posted on 03/29/2006 1:03:08 PM PST by sailor4321
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To: neverdem

We need to have the next president come in and clean house at the ATF. Then tell the new people (reduced in number) that the rules have changed. They are to justify the expenses of any investigations, any cases they persue that are like what happened to the officer or the dealer and the investigators/agency will be punished, etc. Punishment will be swift and brutal.

Then turn to the IRS and do the same and so on down the line.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 1:04:02 PM PST by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: Joe Brower
Be Ever Vigilant!


17 posted on 03/29/2006 1:12:19 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: neverdem
Stucko said. "The term 'willful' is not defined in the law."

What an idiot! How can you then prosecute for something not defined by law? Jerks cannot have it both ways.

The sooner they are disbanded the better.

18 posted on 03/29/2006 1:17:51 PM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: neverdem
I know personally of a gunsmith operating from his home who was harrassed by repeated surprise BATF inspections until he finally gave up. (Cost me, too, because he was my smith and a damn good one.) This was triumphantly reported to D.C. as a small-time "dealer" (he sold no guns, the FFL was for shipping) now out of business and triumphantly reported to the country by the Brady Campaign as the street being safer because of it.

It's a corporate culture issue, IMHO, an assumption of "us vs. them" and it was fed by hirings especially during the notoriously gun-owner-hating Clinton administration. Many of these are now in positions of middle management and being federal employees essentially untouchable, and they know it.

One would not expect an inspector of the Bureau of Mines to hate miners and believe that there should be no mining done - he or she probably wouldn't get very far. A farming inspector who hated farms and farmers and wanted them all to go away probably wouldn't either. A BATF agent who hates gun owners and wants to make life as difficult as possible for them is, on the other hand, likely to be promoted. This is a pathological corporate culture.

Keep an eye on these people - remember the names. Should, God forbid, the Dems win big we're going to be seeing lots of them, and they don't like us.

19 posted on 03/29/2006 1:18:43 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: TexasCajun

What was it that G. Gordon Liddy advised to anyone who is so unfortunate as to face the un-Constitutional actions of those "jackbooted thugs"? I'd reprint his advice but one of the mods here would get all in a dither over it. But it remains as good advice. The Second Amendment was written to protect us from just the sort of behavior the ATF carries out as SOP.


20 posted on 03/29/2006 1:18:59 PM PST by PeterFinn (Anita Bryant was right!)
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