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Congress Told of More ATF Abuses, Reforms Suggested
CNSNews.com ^ | March 29, 2006 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 03/29/2006 12:40:56 PM PST by neverdem

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To: DoughtyOne

That's an insult to garbage separators everywhere. If I were one, I'd challenge you to a duel.


41 posted on 03/29/2006 2:04:58 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: neverdem

Is this the same congress that is going to 'reform' illegal immigration?


42 posted on 03/29/2006 2:06:10 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH - PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: Billthedrill; Travis McGee

Read it! Great book, waiting, waiting, waiting for the sequal to print.


43 posted on 03/29/2006 2:11:27 PM PST by Doomonyou (FR doesn't suffer fools lightly.)
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To: Billthedrill
This is a pathological corporate culture.

Correction: pathological government culture. Corporations have nothing to do with it.

44 posted on 03/29/2006 2:15:21 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: sailor4321
It looked like they were due for a downsize about the end of 1992, but then they were "ambushed" by some li'l ol' church group in Texas, (or so they claimed). The FeeBIes came in and hauled their water at the end of that one, during a new administration, and some gal named Reno got a new nickname.

From there, they have found incident after incident to somehow justify their crusade on the RKBA, all funded by our tax dollars, naturally.

I guess the game kept them from ending up as mall security guards somewhere, 'cause you gotta have a Law Degree to be a FeeBIe, and their cannons were a bit loose for the DEA deck.

Which leaves what? Bank guard? Not enough jizz for those operators.

They 'saved' their jobs and only had to kill 82 people to do it.

45 posted on 03/29/2006 2:22:14 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Welsh Rabbit
Why is the Tuscon PD being so harsh on him if he was cleared of the charges?

How many 'throw down' weapons are legal or just plain hot? Think about it. Once they start sniffing buttcracks everyone in the PD is going to be trying to CYA. The guy is going to be a pariah instinctively with the others, out of self-preservation.

46 posted on 03/29/2006 2:26:30 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: looscnnn
They are to justify the expenses of any investigations,

WHoa! Careful, there. They "justified" Waco, at least enough to get the Senate Hearing whitewash to stick.

That gives them more 'license' in their minds, not less, 'cause things will be "justified".

Put Hillary at the top and anything goes.

47 posted on 03/29/2006 2:29:52 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Jack Black

I am not giving him a pass, I am disappointed in him because he has not done so as of yet and these issues have been going on and known for longer than he has been the President. Obviously he won't do it, so it will need to fall on the next President.


48 posted on 03/29/2006 2:37:24 PM PST by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: Still Thinking

I knew that was coming. I shoulda had money on it. LOL


49 posted on 03/29/2006 2:46:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: Billthedrill; Joe Brower

50 posted on 03/29/2006 2:48:12 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Doomonyou

Should be about June.....


51 posted on 03/29/2006 2:50:39 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: PeterFinn
What was it that G. Gordon Liddy advised to anyone who is so unfortunate as to face the un-Constitutional actions of those "jackbooted thugs"? I'd reprint his advice but one of the mods here would get all in a dither over it. But it remains as good advice. The Second Amendment was written to protect us from just the sort of behavior the ATF carries out as SOP.

I printed it once. I got no beef from the mods, but my firewall was probed within minutes of posting it.

After a minor amount of searching, I found that the IP addr belonged to a company in Langley VA.

If I remember correctly Liddy suggsted head shots for JBT in body armor.

52 posted on 03/29/2006 2:50:52 PM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty)
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To: Travis McGee
Should be about June.....

I'm watching the web site.

53 posted on 03/29/2006 2:57:32 PM PST by Doomonyou (FR doesn't suffer fools lightly.)
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To: Travis McGee

Great pic - now, I've never tried jackbooted thugdom, but aren't you supposed to pull the ski mask down far enough so's you can see out of it?


54 posted on 03/29/2006 3:15:13 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: neverdem

The problem here is the authority of the agency. The '68 GCA is outright unconstitutional - it prohibits people from selling Constitutionally-protected property to others across state lines (you have to go through a "dealer"), it prohibits you from dealing directly with manufacturers (just try buying an AR clone directly from Bushmaster, DPMS, etc., or a handgun from S&W, Springfield, Glock, etc. - it won't happen unless you have an FFL) and it allows the agency to ban whole classes of guns from civilian ownership under the unlimited, undefined, unconstitutional and unreviewable standard of "sporting purpose" (which, by the way, was a concept lifted directly from the 1938 Nazi Weapons Law - see http://www.jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm ).

BATF abuses got the '86 FOPA passed, which forced BATF to ease up a bit, and which allowed interstate shipment of ammo and protected interstate travel with long guns. Maybe the abuses now being testified about can bring some more changes for the better.


55 posted on 03/29/2006 3:15:59 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: TexasCajun
Just be glad I don't have Tourettes Syndrome! hehe

Wouldn't bother me if you did. I used to work with a lady who had it, as did her husband and children. She scared many people, but I could see beyond her problem. Of course she had it mostly controlled via medication, but you could still tell when she was about to blow, or at least when it appeared she was about to blow.

56 posted on 03/29/2006 3:20:57 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Ancesthntr
The '68 GCA is outright unconstitutional

You didn't even mention the original federal gun control law. The National Firearms Act. It was for violations that act, not GCA '68 or any other "law", that folks were killed at Ruby Ridge (too short) and Waco (alleged machine guns). It's just as unconstitutional as the others. It's alos the only one to make it to the Supreme Court, in a cast which was sent back to the lower court for "further action", which could have been anything, from reinstatement of the charges, to further pleadings and evidence that a short barrelled shotgun did have militia/military usefulness. The machine gun provisions, the associtated tax, and registry, have never been tested at the Supreme Court.

57 posted on 03/29/2006 3:28:44 PM PST by El Gato
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To: neverdem

58 posted on 03/29/2006 3:48:31 PM PST by Sender (As water has no constant form, there are in war no constant conditions. Be without form. -Sun Tzu)
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To: neverdem

Is this the end of the Alcohol Tobacco Fags?


59 posted on 03/29/2006 3:52:49 PM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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To: neverdem

The man is lucky they didn't burn his house down!


60 posted on 03/29/2006 4:56:15 PM PST by SouthTexas (There's a hot time in Gay Paris tonight.)
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