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Mexican Reconquista: Leader Says California Will Be First 'Hispanic' State
Original FreeRepublic post on 06/06/2000 (old URL format - now updated) ^ | June 7, 2000 | Stephan Archer

Posted on 03/29/2006 6:00:02 PM PST by First_Salute

Mexican Reconquista: Leader Says California Will Be First 'Hispanic' State

Government News
Source: newsmax.com
Published: 6-7-00 Author: Stephan Archer
Posted on 06/06/2000 17:05:49 PDT by FISHHOG

I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important --- a very important part --- of this."

This statement wasn't made in secrecy behind closed doors. It wasn't said outside the jurisdiction of the United States of America. None other than Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo spoke it in Chicago on July 23, 1997.

Speaking before the National Council of La Raza, Zedillo went on to say, "For this reason, my government proposed a constitutional amendment to allow any Mexican with the right and the desire to acquire another nationality to do so without being forced to first give up his or her Mexican nationality."

This amendment is significant for more than just the obvious reason. It is nearly impossible to obtain Mexican citizenship unless you can prove you are Mexican or are of Mexican descent.

If you are neither, you must prove that you have completely adopted Mexican culture and lifestyle. Yet a Mexican citizen can, in essence, acquire another nationality and remain a Mexican. Is this a double standard?

Glenn Spencer, president of Voice of Citizens Together and radio talk show host of American Patrol Report, thinks so. But he thinks there's something more sinister to the Mexican president's decree than one might think.

"This is an invasion of the United States in a very classic way with all of the classic objectives of an invasion without using bullets," Spencer said.

Spencer added he believed Mexico is allowing this so that those people with dual citizenship may vote in the interest of Mexico in the United States.

The ultimate goal of this invasion, Spencer contends, is to reclaim the American Southwest --- an area including California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas.

Known as Aztlan by Hispanic activists, these states make up what used to be Mexican territory before treaties and wars gave the land to the United States.

Some Hispanic activists deny that there is any sort of organized effort to take over these states and reclaim it for Mexico.

However, Jose Pescador Osuna, who was once the Mexican consul general in Los Angeles, has been quoted on the record as saying, "Even though I'm saying this part serious and part joking, I believe we are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California."

"La Reconquista" means "the reconquest" and refers to the taking over of the U.S. Southwest. Osuna now is an agent of the Mexican government and works for migration in Mexico City.

Even though these statements have been made on American soil, Mario Obledo of the California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations said the "radical" Aztlan movement died in the 1960s.

Obledo, a resident of Sacramento, Calif., explained that his organization tries to secure the civil rights of Mexican-Americans "and others similarly situated."

Although claiming a profound faith in America, he's also proud of the fact that the majority of Californians in the next few years will be Hispanic.

"California is going to be a Hispanic state," Obledo said. "Anyone who doesn't like it should leave."

Obledo further added: "Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years. It's a fact of life. That's all.

All of those propositions --- 187, 209, and whatever --- is a backlash due to the insecurities of the majority population. That's all. But all those measures are going to be reversed one of these days."

Proposition 187 was the California initiative supported by a majority of Californians that denied taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens.

Proposition 209 was another initiative supported by a majority of Californians that banned affirmative action, that is, prohibited preferential treatment in the work place and public schools and universities.

Speaking at a Latino gathering in response to Proposition 187's passage in 1995, Art Torres, the chairman of the California Democratic Party, said: "Power is not given to you. You have to take it. Remember, 187 is the last gasp of white America in California."

But if Mexico is to reclaim the U.S. Southwest, how will it be done?

Spencer believes that with the increasing unrest along the U.S.-Mexican border, the U.S. Border Patrol will eventually become overwhelmed, requiring the U.S. Army to take action.

With increasing unrest and military presence all along the border, the current border will be erased and a new border zone stretching 150 miles from the current border into the United States will be put in place.

Although this may sound impossible, President Clinton has already issued an executive order that could put such a border zone in place.

Executive Order 13122, signed by the president May 25, 1999, established an Interagency Task Force on the Economic Development of the Southwest Border.

The purpose of the task force is to "coordinate and better leverage existing Administration efforts for the Southwest Border, in concert with locally led efforts to increase the living standards and the overall economic profile of the Southwest Border so that it may achieve the average of the Nation."

Down toward the bottom of the executive order, it adds, "The Southwest Border or Southwest Border region is defined as including the areas up to 150 miles north of the United States-Mexican border in the States of Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and California."

Spencer believes this inclusion in the executive order is little more than a mechanism of NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) to erase the border by creating a border "zone" instead of a border line.

"It's an attempt to gradually erase the border," Spencer said.

Spencer has been speaking about his scenario of an "Aztlan invasion" on the radio for some time now, and it has drawn considerable attention, including death threats.

Referring to a banner he saw at California State University, Northridge that read "Aztlan Graduation," Spencer concluded: "This is an invasion of the United States.

I believe it's going to end up in a war, and I believe it's going to be so much worse because Clinton has sold us down the river."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; aztlan; california; conquest; illegals; immigrantlist; mexico; nafta; reconquista; semantics; unitedstates

1 posted on 03/29/2006 6:00:05 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
I believe it's going to end up in a war, and I believe it's going to be so much worse because Clinton has sold us down the river."

We expect it from them, it's much harder to bear when it comes from your own house.

3 posted on 03/29/2006 6:05:02 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: First_Salute

There will be an intafada on our own soil if we non-immigrants dont force mass deportations !


4 posted on 03/29/2006 6:05:27 PM PST by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: First_Salute

Mexico is stuck in the 16th century. The status quo will stay the same.


5 posted on 03/29/2006 6:09:04 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: First_Salute

FISHHOG rocks! He was one of the greatest posters in FR history. I wondered what happened to him?


6 posted on 03/29/2006 6:13:34 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: First_Salute
The Mexinistas can posture all they want. But they have neither the Eternal nor courage on their side.

If push comes to shove they will be shoved into the muddy ditch of broken wheels and forgotten history.
7 posted on 03/29/2006 6:14:14 PM PST by A message
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To: First_Salute

I don't know when it will come, but the latinos will eventually rule CA at the ballot box. Make of this what you may.


8 posted on 03/29/2006 6:14:51 PM PST by umgud (12 gauge, the original pepper spray)
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To: claptrap
I know the article is old but it still is the goal of these Mexican groups. Bush is banking on Fox and other Mexican officials being able to tap down this kind of rhetoric to keep their integration agenda on track. See how fast they put the clamps on the student demonstrations.
9 posted on 03/29/2006 6:16:39 PM PST by Butcher Kilroy
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To: First_Salute

Thanks GW...thanks for giving America to the Mexicans.


10 posted on 03/29/2006 6:17:29 PM PST by dinok
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To: First_Salute
Traitor.


11 posted on 03/29/2006 6:17:34 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: umgud

The only answer may be to cut California in two, why poison the north of the state?


12 posted on 03/29/2006 6:17:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: First_Salute
I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders

There is a difference between a nation and a state.

The Italian nation existed many years before there was an Italian state.

And even after the creation of of the Italian state for about a century, the Italian nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders.

13 posted on 03/29/2006 6:20:55 PM PST by daivid
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To: First_Salute
"...a banner he saw at California State University, Northridge that read "Aztlan Graduation,"

If you have the stomach to check out low-rider mag's, there is a current issue with "Aztlan's hottest ladies" (sic) across the cover.

14 posted on 03/29/2006 6:22:18 PM PST by norton
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To: First_Salute

As if we all needed ANOTHER reason to never live in California....lol


15 posted on 03/29/2006 6:22:39 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: First_Salute

Say...if California becomes the "first Hispanic state"; does that mean we can quit sending them federal money? I could use the tax break.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 6:24:14 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: First_Salute

I think they mis-read that "border zone" thing. It'll be more like 150 miles INSIDE Mexico.


17 posted on 03/29/2006 6:29:01 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: First_Salute
What's this BS about clinton signing an order to move the border 150 miles further north?
18 posted on 03/29/2006 6:29:04 PM PST by AmeriBrit (A must see: http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/flash2.html)
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To: First_Salute

Thanks for the repost. Very relevant. Some great FReepers on that original. Hope they are doing well.


19 posted on 03/29/2006 6:31:22 PM PST by PGalt
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To: First_Salute

Why aren't these individuals who are advocating overthrowing the government being arrested? Is Bush so stupid as to think that if he ignores this problem nothing will happen? People are not going to put up with this type of arrogant BS from anyone let alone a bunch of ILLGALS aliens who absolutly no right to be here!


20 posted on 03/29/2006 6:40:35 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind)
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To: claptrap

Why is trespassing on US soil punished by deportation? Would jail time followed by deportation be a more appropriate punishment?


21 posted on 03/29/2006 6:46:35 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: First_Salute
"California is going to be a Hispanic state," Obledo said. "Anyone who doesn't like it should leave."

If the illegal Mexicans were engineers, nurses, doctors, architects, business owners - ANYTHING BUT THE POOR - few would be complaining.

The floods that are coming across are allowed BY OUR POLITICIANS to attach onto the teat of the Amerian taxpayer, be it welfare, food stamps, medical treatment and schools. If anyone thinks poor people are a benefit to society, look at your freaking tax bill on April 15th. Your "cheap lettuce" is costing you a fortune if you have the brains to look at the big picture.

Importing povery, which the politicians have done in spades, is a sure road to doom.

I look at those self-important suits in Washington who don't have the balls to be leaders and I want to spit.

22 posted on 03/29/2006 6:55:50 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Tymesup
Would jail time followed by deportation be a more appropriate punishment?

I am sick of "jail," which mostly burdens taxpayers. I say, take a pound of flesh and send them on their way (aliens and native miscreants alike).

23 posted on 03/29/2006 6:57:05 PM PST by LK44-40
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To: First_Salute

Let Mexico have CA. It's nothing but a hellhole blue Dem-lib cesspool anyway. There should be a way of expelling states that are nothing but a cancer on the body politic.


24 posted on 03/29/2006 6:57:47 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: First_Salute

Here are a bunch of people admitting that their own country is just too crummy a place to live.


25 posted on 03/29/2006 7:01:58 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: LK44-40

Jail, pound of flesh, fines, just so long as it has some teeth. Deportation doesn't seem to be much of a punishment or deterrent.


26 posted on 03/29/2006 7:05:19 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: dinok

Thanks GW...thanks for giving America to the Mexicans.
You hit it right on the head..Ok what can we all do now ? I wrote to the deft politicians..what now.I for one refuse to accept the watering down of my country ..Being a US citizen has just been watered down and make a mockery.


27 posted on 03/29/2006 7:06:18 PM PST by aureliusk
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To: LK44-40

Jail those who employ illegals..HEAVY jail time . Make them scared to hire even ONE illegal.Once the work stops they will go away by themselves. It can be done if the BIG SHOTS wanted it done . But we've been sold down the river by these jerks .The will of the people is being ignored totally.


28 posted on 03/29/2006 7:08:36 PM PST by aureliusk
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To: kittymyrib
Hey and just think we can also give them the 9th circuit Court of Appeals!
29 posted on 03/29/2006 7:15:06 PM PST by georgiarat
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To: First_Salute

This is the kind of thing that shouldn't be going on. Illegal immigration is one thing, but if it attracts radical fringe elements like this, it automatically becomes dangerous.


30 posted on 03/29/2006 7:16:55 PM PST by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: kittymyrib

Hey, there are still some americans here. Hoping someday we will be liberated. Then again, it may be a lost cause. Starting to feel abondoned by the D-wads in washington.


31 posted on 03/29/2006 7:20:16 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: SouthernFreebird

A couple of vegetable blights and the panchos will be streaming south.


32 posted on 03/29/2006 7:26:16 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: umgud

Feinstein, Boxer, and Pelosi will be out of a job along with their Liberal cohorts in the California Assembly. They're selling our country and our state down the river.


33 posted on 03/29/2006 7:33:59 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: First_Salute
¿Reconquista?

Does that men we have to beat Mexico AGAIN?

34 posted on 03/29/2006 7:37:58 PM PST by null and void (Perhaps hating America is for those for whom hating Jews just isn't enough. - Philippe Roger)
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To: claptrap

There will be no war, there will be no intifada, America lost, get used to it gavacho.


35 posted on 03/29/2006 7:40:56 PM PST by Pelham (Treason: Not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

No Bush, and his (R) friend will be out of a job. That's the irony . If these illegals become citizens who do yo uthink they will vote for ? The welfare party of course (D).Then again how long will it be before Kennedy introduces a bill to allow illegals the right to vote ? Don't think that's not in the Democrat's plan book ?


36 posted on 03/29/2006 7:44:58 PM PST by aureliusk
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To: Travis McGee; B4Ranch; Eaker; First_Salute
"California is going to be a Hispanic state," Obledo said. "Anyone who doesn't like it should leave." --NewxMax article from 2000 by Stephen Archer.

FISHHOG seems to be known to some senior freepers.

First_Salute says in his profile: "Remember, our Constitution is a peace treaty."

37 posted on 03/29/2006 7:47:23 PM PST by John Filson
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To: First_Salute

If California ever became a Mexican state, they would then all start sneaking across the border to live in Oregon.


38 posted on 03/29/2006 7:51:29 PM PST by joebuck
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To: First_Salute

"California is going to be a Hispanic state," Obledo said. "Anyone who doesn't like it should leave."

Wow. Back when Americans were patriotic, we would have seen that as a threat.


39 posted on 03/29/2006 8:02:56 PM PST by NavySon (Ted Kennedy, the only man whose BAC is greater than his IQ)
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To: First_Salute

Hey Obledo you dumbass

REMEMBER THE ALAMO !!!!


40 posted on 03/29/2006 9:04:22 PM PST by UglyinLA
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To: dfwgator

If Bush has his way the usa will be one big California/Mexifornia


41 posted on 03/29/2006 9:07:59 PM PST by jpsb
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To: First_Salute


42 posted on 03/29/2006 10:22:38 PM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: First_Salute
Americans wake to finding their flag poles with Mexican flags replacing the stars and strips


The Stars and Stripes have been replaced by the Mexican flag
at Chasewood North, and residents of the condominium community
off Central Boulevard are puzzled as to who made the switch.

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FRPR "normy" - reply 56:

2 days ago I was in my truck listening to Savage rant about the mobs in California when I turned to my right and there in a delivery truck at the light was a man I know named Mialo. Now Mialo is an illegal immigrant who worked for a buddy of mine. This buddy found out he and another of his guys were illegal. My friend got them tax numbers and started paying taxes on them to the IRS. A month or so ago both of the illegals were picked up with two others by the cops because they were shooting deer on private property and throwing them in their truck. Both were deported.


43 posted on 03/30/2006 5:48:40 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute

Deport them all.
Build the wall.
Do it now, or we will lose our nation.


44 posted on 03/30/2006 5:53:13 AM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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