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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Of course these are replacements for the HumVee in an urban environment.

If our next conflict is in open country, Bradleys and Tanks will lead the way and the HumVee replacement will be called an overweight doorstop, unable to manuver in tough terrain.

The HumVee was never supposed to be an armored venhicl. It's a damned good replacement for the Jeep.

We need an armoured urban combat vehicle, they should be popular with police forces worldwide too, but that's not what the HumVee or its replacement needs to be.

SO9

2 posted on 03/29/2006 9:46:32 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (" I am just going outside, and may be some time.")
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To: Servant of the 9
I like the Commander but it seems impractical. How in the hell do you see out of that thing?
4 posted on 03/29/2006 9:55:19 PM PST by Jaysun (As long as you are lying, why bother placing limits on how outrageous you are - LZ_Bayonet)
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To: Servant of the 9

Open country is just what we manuever through on the way to the enemy's key terrain, which usually isn't out in the boonies.


5 posted on 03/29/2006 10:00:39 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Servant of the 9
The HumVee was never supposed to be an armored vehicle. It's a damned good replacement for the Jeep.

Something few remember. How did we ever survive with the old Jeeps? Could it be that we knew they had no armor so we kept very alert for danger?
22 posted on 03/30/2006 3:25:18 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Servant of the 9
The HumVee was never supposed to be an armored venhicl. It's a damned good replacement for the Jeep.

Exactly. Eliminating a general purpose utility vehicle because its not suitable for certain missions in certain environments is nuts. Every vehicle has some drawbacks. A v-shaped undercarriage is either going to raise the profile or reduce ground clearance. More armor will lead to suspension problems and much higher fuel consumption, etc.

Just as one example, exactly how many IED have we encountered in Afghanistan? That's just not a threat we're going to have to face in every future environment. We may fall into the fateful trap of fighting the "last war", because by the time the humvee is completely replaced, our involvement in Iraq is going to be much different than it is today.

29 posted on 03/30/2006 7:42:29 AM PST by XJarhead
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