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Cheney: Iraq Documents Show Saddam-Osama Tie
NewsMax.com ^ | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 03/30/2006 6:43:13 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

Vice President Dick Cheney predicted Wednesday that thousands of boxes of documents captured from Saddam's Hussein's former regime will show that the Iraqi dictator had a much closer relationship with Osama bin Laden than was previously known.

"I think what we'll find as we get a chance to go through and analyze these documents -- there's some 50,000 boxes of them that are now being made available here over the next few months -- that we'll see a pretty complete picture that Saddam Hussein did, in fact, deal with some pretty nefarious characters out there," Cheney told Fox News Radio's Tony Snow.

Asked if he was referring to Osama bin Laden, Cheney replied:

"Yes, we don't know the full scale of it there yet, and I don't want to make a hard and fast prediction here. But there is reporting, obviously, that we've seen over the years that there was some kind of a relationship there between the Iraqis and Osama bin Laden."

An Iraqi intelligence document ordered released by the White House two weeks ago detailed a Feb. 1995 meeting between bin Laden and an Iraqi intelligence official that was personally approved by Saddam, where bin Laden requested help in conducting "joint operations" against U.S. forces then stationed in Saudi Arabia.

The document went on to note that Saddam agreed to help bin Laden with propaganda broadcasts into Saudi Arabia and that "the development of the relationship and cooperation between the two parties [would] be left according to what's open based on dialogue and agreement on other ways of cooperation."

The vice president stressed that nothing in the new documents uncovered so far links Saddam to the 9/11 attacks. But he added: "That's a separate proposition from the question of whether or not there was some kind of a relationship between the Iraqi government, Iraqi intelligence services and the al Qaida organization."


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1 posted on 03/30/2006 6:43:14 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax
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To: Carl/NewsMax

He's not the only one...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2006/03/condoleezza-rice-sees-significance-in.html


2 posted on 03/30/2006 6:45:52 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

drip...drip...drip...


3 posted on 03/30/2006 6:47:30 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Carl/NewsMax; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; Peach; ...
We've got y'all's back on this Mr. Vice-President!

Cheney: Iraq Documents Show Saddam-Osama Tie

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Please add the keyword prewardocs to any articles pertaining to this subject.

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4 posted on 03/30/2006 6:48:49 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Carl/NewsMax

"The vice president stressed that nothing in the new documents uncovered so far links Saddam to the 9/11 attacks"



its lines like that, that make the whole story useless


5 posted on 03/30/2006 6:50:16 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

This will be W's greatest legacy, challenging the cancer of terrorism spreading out of Saddams Iraq. If it had continued on, God knows what kind of beast, networking with terrorists round the world, would have grown out of that pit. And our children would have had to deal with it.


6 posted on 03/30/2006 6:50:27 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Osama or not, Saddam was in bed with terrorists, and that was more than enough reason to get rid of his sorry carcass. Iran is next.


8 posted on 03/30/2006 6:52:57 AM PST by pissant
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I just don't think that the old media will ever admit their error in this situation if a link is found.
They keep hitting new lows anyway and have too much to lose.
We'll see what the new media can do with these stories but I am not going to hold my breath.


9 posted on 03/30/2006 6:53:17 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"-Samuel Johnson to the Dems of today.)
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To: Very very very conservative
I do wish he would run in '08 and '12.Stick with Washington's precedent.

Besides, I don't think we can afford another 8 years of Bush profligacy.

10 posted on 03/30/2006 6:55:40 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (No one cares if the muzzies are free. It really is about their oil.)
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To: epluribus_2

Right. I think is was wise for the administration to release these docs in a slow methodical manner as the collective impact will end up being far greater than a huge one time document dump.


11 posted on 03/30/2006 6:57:30 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: eyespysomething
Cheney needs to be on your ping list ... we've already got the evidence that Saddam had contacts with nefarious characters.

I'll ping him.

Before you may post this message, the following must be corrected:
Could not find anybody named 'VP Cheney'

Oh well ...

12 posted on 03/30/2006 6:58:15 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: sure_fine

"The vice president stressed that nothing in the new documents uncovered so far links Saddam to the 9/11 attacks" - no, just links Saddam to supporting the perpetrator. Justification enough for me for regime change.


13 posted on 03/30/2006 6:59:05 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: sure_fine
its lines like that, that make the whole story useless

Why? The line is correct.

14 posted on 03/30/2006 6:59:48 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder; Karl Rove

LOL, he and Condi better get added!


15 posted on 03/30/2006 7:00:02 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: JerseyDvl
I just don't think that the old media will ever admit their error in this situation if a link is found.

They will just emphasis that Saddam worked with al Qaeda on Saudi Arabia exclusively, or something to that affect. Ties between Saddam and other terrorist groups will be reduced to reporting on how these groups are not al Qaeda.
16 posted on 03/30/2006 7:00:39 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: eyespysomething; Karl Rove
LOL, he and Condi better get added!

LOL ... good for Karl!

17 posted on 03/30/2006 7:01:08 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Karl Rove

Oops, I truly meant to remove your name, I was seeing if there was a Karl Rove named poster on FR.

LOL ** embarrassed blushing **


18 posted on 03/30/2006 7:01:15 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Carl/NewsMax

The MSM - kicking and screaming - might eventually have to take a look at these documents. You'd think that a media so obsessed with obtaining government documents IN EVERY OTHER SITUATION - is taking such a blase - even hostile - approach to these documents. They seem to really fear that something will turn up that will exonerate Bush. They have so much capital invested in the "Bush lied about WMDs" scenario, they don't want a full examination of the facts.


19 posted on 03/30/2006 7:01:44 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Congress spends the money. Were you as upset as the Treason Media about Reagan's "profligacy"?


20 posted on 03/30/2006 7:01:46 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

FINALLY! I was wondering how the Bush admin would beat this drum. I knew Bush wouldn't do it directly.


21 posted on 03/30/2006 7:02:55 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: eyespysomething
This account has been banned or suspended.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay

Oops ... Karl's not getting your pings either ... I wonder if Rove got banned in WOD thread?

22 posted on 03/30/2006 7:03:29 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: traderrob6
Right. I think is was wise for the administration to release these docs in a slow methodical manner as the collective impact will end up being far greater than a huge one time document dump.

I absolutely disagree. Forcefully and repeatedly point out whatever proof they have that Osama and Saddam are linked. Sure, release the rest of the docs as backing evidence, but find and point out the "smoking gun" proof first.

Instead we get a dump of documents for Joe Citizen and the ever-curious (HA!) mainstream media to sift through, looking for needles in haystacks. That's ridiculous.

Whoever is running White House communication, and, to be honest, overall strategy, should be fired ASAP.

23 posted on 03/30/2006 7:05:15 AM PST by Yossarian (The media is now simply running a 24/7 soap opera with Dubya cast as the arch villain.)
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To: Very very very conservative

The veep would make a fine president but the Demonrats and leftist press have demonized him to the degree that he ranks lower than GWB in the polls. He is considered venal and mean by about 65% of the electorate, if one is to believe the polls. He is not that old (66) and in better health than he is credited with. But given the foregoing, there is zero chance he would run.


24 posted on 03/30/2006 7:06:47 AM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I hope Cheney reconsiders and runs for President in 08.


25 posted on 03/30/2006 7:07:12 AM PST by pissant
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Sorry Bushbot, did I write something that didn't fit with your programming?

I don't seem to recall the Reagan medicare bill. Could you remind me? And of course, Reagan had a Republican majority in Congress - oh wait.


26 posted on 03/30/2006 7:07:23 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (No one cares if the muzzies are free. It really is about their oil.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
I'd like to make a single point here:

Often when someone cites terror ties, a doubter uses this response: "If this were true, wouldn't the administration be Shouting It From The Rooftops?" (For some reason, that exact phrase is always used - Shouting It From The Rooftops.)

Well, here's Cheney, saying there was a connection. I don't know if he's "S.I.F.T.R." (tm) but he's there in the mainstream media saying there was a connection. What the hell else is he supposed to do? He can only "shout" so loud, he cannot control whether the media picks up his "shout" or how they spin it.

But regardless, the S.I.F.T.R. "argument" (it never really was much of an argument) is officially dead. I don't want to hear it ever again.

27 posted on 03/30/2006 7:11:16 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: sure_fine
its lines like that, that make the whole story useless

Why? It's ok for Saddam to be connected to Al Qaeda as long as he wasn't actually involved in the 9/11 attacks in particular?

That's not the Bush doctrine.

28 posted on 03/30/2006 7:12:04 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Wasn't Dan Rather over there just before the war?

Can he attest to their authenticity? He knows when real documents are faked...

In a related story, Sandy Berger was seen entering the building wearing world record sized hip waders!


29 posted on 03/30/2006 7:13:17 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Yossarian

The blogospere is a powerful tool that the administration is using to their advantage. Whatever percolates up will be reported to a greater or lesser degree depending on it's significance. Rather than come across as trying to spin and cover their a$$, the "grass roots" disemination of these revelations will come from the bottom up and have a great deal more validity in the end.


30 posted on 03/30/2006 7:15:29 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Of course dumbasses don't understand that there is no Dictator in control of the GOP or the country as a whole. These same dumbasses might even believe that we can do ANYTHING we want. They are unaware that politics rarely allows a complete override of the tendencies of the People. They may even be unaware that Congress REFLECTS most intimately the wishes of the People.

Now thoughtful conservatives understand that it will take decades to change the mindset of the People to overcome the decades of Leftist ideology.

Those who join the Left's attacks on the President are not doing the Nation any good. Support of the President and the GOP is critical to the health of the Nation.


31 posted on 03/30/2006 7:16:45 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Cheney: "...we'll see a pretty complete picture that Saddam Hussein did, in fact, deal with some pretty nefarious characters out there,"


THIS MAKES MY MOUTH FROTH AND HEAD SPIN WITH RAGE!!!

Everyone knows that Saddam and OBL would never work together because they did not like each other. cBS said so a thousand times so it must be true!

OBL only offers a truce to the Crusaders whom he swore Holy Jihad against, so the war torn countries of the Middle East can be rebuilt.

WHAAAAAA!!!!
32 posted on 03/30/2006 7:28:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: traderrob6
The blogospere is a powerful tool that the administration is using to their advantage. Whatever percolates up will be reported to a greater or lesser degree depending on it's significance. Rather than come across as trying to spin and cover their a$$, the "grass roots" disemination of these revelations will come from the bottom up and have a great deal more validity in the end.

If you have a smoking gun, push a smoking gun. It's that simple.

33 posted on 03/30/2006 7:28:44 AM PST by Yossarian (The media is now simply running a 24/7 soap opera with Dubya cast as the arch villain.)
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To: P-40

"I just don't think that the old media will ever admit their error in this situation if a link is found." Uh ya think?... The same 'old media' which maintains the veracity of the fraudulent Rather docs, etc., the same 'old media' which has as its most pressing agenda the nullification of the Bush Presidency and reinstituting to power their beloved democrap party, the same 'old media' who worship clinton in his degeneracy even today, the same 'old media' (actually, I prefer BM, for big media) which is feverishly spewing as much filth and degeneracy as they can on the airways of primetime TV? Is that the 'old media' which you have doubts about regarding their dealing with truth, patriotism, and American sovereignty?


34 posted on 03/30/2006 7:34:00 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
would never work together because they did not like each other

That argument always cracks me up. Every day the news is full of regimes that work together on one project while stabbing each other in the back on others.
35 posted on 03/30/2006 7:38:21 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Maybe Bush should demand that these records be sealed for National Security reasons and publically state that the MSM should not get to see what is in them. That would get months of coverage and analysis of the documents, guaranteed.


36 posted on 03/30/2006 7:39:54 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Yossarian

You miss my point. There may be no definative blockbuster proof in these docs but collectively they produce a mosaic that illustrates through a preponderance of the evidence likely Sadaam/al-qaida support and coopwration.


37 posted on 03/30/2006 7:40:24 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: JerseyDvl
I just don't think that the old media will ever admit their error in this situation if a link is found.

After pounding President Bush in several press conferences and even in the debates, demanding that he admit the errors he made in the lead-up to the War, for them to fail to admit their own errors in the same issue, is profounding revealing.

38 posted on 03/30/2006 7:42:23 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Carl/NewsMax
BTW what is up with Newmax? I stopped visiting there because of an extremely annoying pop-up ad. Are they going to cut that crap out or what?
39 posted on 03/30/2006 7:43:52 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
I don't seem to recall the Reagan medicare bill. Could you remind me?

Your notion that GWB is no Reagan, or trying to pit these two fine men and Presidents against each other is utterly foolish.

Reagan may not have had a Medicare bill to the likes of what GWB signed...but he did compromise and agree to full amnesty of over 3 million + illegal immigrants in 1986 (after 5 years of endless debate)...so at a time in which the problem was much more manageable Reagan went with the easier way out....Is he not a conservative??? - Hmm, seems to me Reagan appointed S.D. O'Connor and A. Kennedy to the SCOTUS.....GWB record of of the two fine men he has had confirmed stand up very well in a comparison.....And what about those tax increases in 86 under Reagan as well???...hmm, not to mention dropping the ball completely on any meaningful Soc Security reform???

Go ahead, tell us Reagan wasn't a true conservative, tell us he was a sell out. Yawn.

40 posted on 03/30/2006 7:45:42 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: traderrob6
a preponderance of the evidence

Sadly, I don't think a good many people will consider that. If it does not look good on TV...it won't sell. That is why proof of the ability to produce WMDs does not matter much; a barrel of WMDs would.
41 posted on 03/30/2006 7:46:18 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: P-40

"They will just emphasis that Saddam worked with al Qaeda on Saudi Arabia exclusively, or something to that affect. Ties between Saddam and other terrorist groups will be reduced to reporting on how these groups are not al Qaeda."

Move the goalposts.


42 posted on 03/30/2006 7:52:57 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To Serve Man......It's a cookbook!)
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To: DevSix
Money is Power.

When you throw money around you are wielding power.

Eventually the Democraps will gain power, then we make them pay the bill.

Bush is a genius.
43 posted on 03/30/2006 7:53:17 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: luvbach1

"The veep would make a fine president but the Demonrats and leftist press have demonized him to the degree that he ranks lower than GWB in the polls. He is considered venal and mean by about 65% of the electorate, if one is to believe the polls. He is not that old (66) and in better health than he is credited with. But given the foregoing, there is zero chance he would run."

In 1987 Reagan was at 38% in the polls.


44 posted on 03/30/2006 7:53:51 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To Serve Man......It's a cookbook!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Excellent. The administration should promote the important finds in these documents like Saddam and Bin Laden relation as Vice President Cheney is doing.
45 posted on 03/30/2006 7:59:00 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: everyone

Yes Iran is next...

WAR! ...... IT'S FANTASTIC!

to quote "Hot Shots Part Duex"


46 posted on 03/30/2006 8:12:10 AM PST by groovejedi
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To: traderrob6
The blogospere is a powerful tool that the administration is using to their advantage. Whatever percolates up will be reported to a greater or lesser degree depending on it's significance. Rather than come across as trying to spin and cover their a$$, the "grass roots" dissemination of these revelations will come from the bottom up and have a great deal more validity in the end.

I agree. Keep the MSM and their spin filter out of the loop. This is pure Rovian genius.

..we are the blog ...resistance is futile

47 posted on 03/30/2006 8:32:13 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Move the goalposts.

Yes they will. They will spin, obfuscate, ignore, distort and lie.

But that's OK. It will further descredit them in the eyes of the public. That's progress.

48 posted on 03/30/2006 8:40:06 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; justshutupandtakeit
Posters like you diminish the quality of this forum.

Defend your ideas without the personal attack on justshutupandtakeit.

When you fling out sarcastic nastiness as you just did, one is led to believe that you can't defend your ideas rationally.

Can you?

49 posted on 03/30/2006 8:48:22 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax; jveritas; eyespysomething
This is great stuff. The administration is fighting back in multiple ways.

The American people will eventually know the complete truth because of these documents, and the MSM won't be able to do a single thing to stop it.

It makes my heart glad. :)

50 posted on 03/30/2006 8:50:32 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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