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Smile When You Say That! Nebraskans Will Be Able To Carry Concealed Handguns
Nebraska State Paper ^ | March 30, 2006

Posted on 03/30/2006 11:06:52 AM PST by Ladysmith

Nebraskans will have the right to bear arms under their coats, in their pockets and wherever else they can think of, thanks to a bill passed Thursday by the Legislature.

Governor Dave Heineman previously said he would sign the so-called “concealed carry” measure. It won 32-12 final approval from lawmakers.

The measure nevertheless allows cities to adopt ordinances banning the carrying of concealed handguns. Lincoln Mayor Colleen Seng and Omaha Mayor Mike Fahey opposed the bill, giving some indication that local bans could be sought in the state’s two largest cities.

The bill sets out requirements for obtaining a five-year permit to carry a concealed weapon. They include completion of a training program, a background check seeking information including criminal and mental health records, and payment of a $100 fee. It also bars the carrying of guns in a variety of places.


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Congratulations, Nebraska!
1 posted on 03/30/2006 11:06:54 AM PST by Ladysmith
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To: 2nd amendment mama; basil; songbird51; trussell; Ronaldus Magnus; Diana in Wisconsin; ...
* BANG! *


2 posted on 03/30/2006 11:08:05 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Ladysmith
Congratulations, Nebraska!

Dittos. Now for a big finish fire that idiot Sen Hagel.

3 posted on 03/30/2006 11:08:59 AM PST by MNJohnnie (The lame shall walk, the blind shall see, alas the press remains invincible in their ignorance.)
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To: Ladysmith

Good news! Another little slice of freedom returned.


4 posted on 03/30/2006 11:09:10 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: beltfed308

Yep, down to two states: Wisconsin (Thanks for nothing, Dingo Doyle!) and Illinois.


5 posted on 03/30/2006 11:10:51 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Ladysmith

Citizens only I hope.


6 posted on 03/30/2006 11:12:35 AM PST by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: Ladysmith
Congratulations, Nebraska!

But wait my friends, lots of things still have to happen. We here in Lincoln are almost SURE our mayor will try to get this "banned" here in Lincoln and Omaha. As they say, it ain't over 'till its over. I for one am hoping for the best but fear/expect the worse.

7 posted on 03/30/2006 11:13:26 AM PST by China Clipper
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To: Ladysmith

GREAT! Another reason to move back home


8 posted on 03/30/2006 11:13:56 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Ladysmith
I think Hawaii, too. This is good news for a first round. But we need to upgrade MANY states to shall issue status and pass intrastate compacts on reciprocity with other states! Then.... life will be good, IMHO. lol
9 posted on 03/30/2006 11:15:15 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Ladysmith

Congrats Nebraska.

I fully support armed citizenries, and the only downside I see to all these states allowing concealed carry by permits is the fact that the goverment is licensing a right in the first place. All states should be Vermont/Alaska style.

Now that they are licensing, it is only a matter of time until illegal immigrants are lobbying for concealed carry permits.


10 posted on 03/30/2006 11:16:38 AM PST by Diggler
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To: China Clipper
Well, at least the door is open enough to get your foot in there.

Besides, the gun grabbers will continue to try and take it all away so the Fight is never done.

11 posted on 03/30/2006 11:16:58 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Ladysmith
Yep, down to two states: Wisconsin (Thanks for nothing, Dingo Doyle!) and Illinois.

Do all the other states have concealed carry?

12 posted on 03/30/2006 11:17:28 AM PST by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: ExSoldier

I believe Hawaii is May Issue. WI and IL simply don't allow CCW.


13 posted on 03/30/2006 11:17:59 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Ladysmith
Smile When You Say That!

What a stupid title, or part thereof. We all know what they are trying to allude to. How bout we look at the statistics for other states who have concealed weapons permits? Like, oh, say, Florida, where crime continues to decrease, even though concealed weapons have been legal here for many years..

14 posted on 03/30/2006 11:19:15 AM PST by Paradox (".. and remove all doubt.")
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To: Ladysmith

On average, RTC states have 21% lower total violent crime, 28% lower murder, 43% lower robbery, and 13% lower aggravated assault. Nine of the 10 states with the lowest violent crime and murder rates have RTC.

More guns = Less crime


15 posted on 03/30/2006 11:20:53 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Ladysmith
May issue is fundamentally the same as non-issue. California is may issue and some folks in rural counties that are just regular folks can get them, but for the bulk of the Kali population is just ain't gonna happen unless you're BIG in Hollyweird, or otherwise politically connected.
16 posted on 03/30/2006 11:21:20 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Ladysmith; All

--anybody know if it has any provision for reciprocity?


17 posted on 03/30/2006 11:21:49 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: Protagoras

This is make 40 states that are shall-issue or no permit required. 8 are May Issue. Only two are no issue.


18 posted on 03/30/2006 11:21:57 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Ladysmith

I thought this would only happen over Ernie Chambers dead body. I have not heard anything about his death (?). He singlehandedly managed to delay the passage of this bill for at least 20 years.


19 posted on 03/30/2006 11:24:22 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: rellimpank
I don't believe so - here is the link to the final bill that Governor Heineman will sign into law next week:

http://www.unicam.state.ne.us/pdf/FINAL_LB454_1.pdf

20 posted on 03/30/2006 11:24:51 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: MNJohnnie

WHoo hoo


21 posted on 03/30/2006 11:25:48 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Ladysmith

Hoorah!

It's about time this was done.

It should be the law everywhere.


22 posted on 03/30/2006 11:28:00 AM PST by voteconstitutionparty
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To: Brad's Gramma
* BANG! *










(Spoiled little girl...)

;o)

23 posted on 03/30/2006 11:28:06 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: China Clipper; Ladysmith

About time. I'd been surprised that such a conservative state never had one.


24 posted on 03/30/2006 11:28:45 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Ladysmith

Hurray! That leaves WI & IL. I've heard rumblings that WI is introducing it YET AGAIN. :)


25 posted on 03/30/2006 11:29:18 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Hat-Trick

--thanks--sped-read it and didn't see anything--still, it's a start--


26 posted on 03/30/2006 11:30:42 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Not until the next session, though, right? I seriously doubt Dave Zien will ever give up on this as long as he's there.


27 posted on 03/30/2006 11:30:57 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Ladysmith

Out of "self defense" Nebraska legislators decided that criminals and gang members who might be afraid of committing crimes against ARMED Kansans, would commit crimes across the state line in Nebraska. They made the worth while decision to permit its citizens to enjoy the 2nd Amendment.


28 posted on 03/30/2006 11:32:47 AM PST by zerosix
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To: Ladysmith

Now next year they can pass pre-emption and tell lincoln and omaha to stick it.


29 posted on 03/30/2006 11:32:50 AM PST by hoosierboy
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To: Protagoras

30 posted on 03/30/2006 11:33:29 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: MNJohnnie

"Now for a big finish fire that idiot Sen Hagel."

One Less RINO tommorrow.


31 posted on 03/30/2006 11:36:40 AM PST by Zrob (freedom without lies)
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To: Ladysmith

Massachusetts is next!!!!

Right?


32 posted on 03/30/2006 11:37:16 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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To: China Clipper
But wait my friends, lots of things still have to happen. We here in Lincoln are almost SURE our mayor will try to get this "banned" here in Lincoln and Omaha.

This gets tried in almost every CCW state. The answer is to get a preemption law passed.

33 posted on 03/30/2006 11:38:14 AM PST by RogueIsland (.)
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To: Ladysmith
In my experience, it's the people who are legally carrying a weapon who are the ones who smile when insulted or threatened. They know their opponent will not get too far with it, so they do not feel as threatened as the aggressor would evidently like, and they feel little shame in allowing a fool to rant.

They also do not want the complication of entangling their permit with the aberrant behavior of some jerk.
34 posted on 03/30/2006 11:38:41 AM PST by PoorMuttly ("Keep your eyes on the stars, but remember to keep your feet on the ground." - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: AdamSelene235

Now that we have gotten this far, time to see if we can't get more States to roll over to GREEN.


35 posted on 03/30/2006 11:39:18 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Egggzactly.


36 posted on 03/30/2006 11:42:59 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Ladysmith

Open carry is technically legal in Wisconsin, but there's plenty of precedent that will uphold the disorderly conduct charge when the cops arrest you.


37 posted on 03/30/2006 11:45:28 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Ladysmith
The bill sets out requirements for obtaining a five-year permit to carry a concealed weapon. They include completion of a training program, a background check seeking information including criminal and mental health records, and payment of a $100 fee.

I don't recall any "requirements" for the rest of the Bill of Rights. Hmmmmmmm . . . . . .

38 posted on 03/30/2006 11:47:34 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Ladysmith
Yeah. Dave Zien is afraid I'll "taze" him if I'm allowed to, LOL!

CCRKBA Tells Wisconsin: 'Legislators Have More Backbone in Kansas' Fri Mar 24, 5:45 PM ET Contact: Alan Gottlieb of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, 425-454-4911; Web: http://www.ccrkba.org

BELLEVUE, Wash., March 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- In the wake of Thursday's landmark override by the Kansas Legislature of Gov. Kathleen Sebelius' veto of that state's concealed carry legislation, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) is telling lawmakers in Wisconsin that they need more backbone.

"Earlier this year," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan M. Gottlieb, "Wisconsin legislators had the opportunity to uphold the state's constitutional right to bear arms, but they chickened out and rolled over for anti-gun Gov. Jim Doyle. Kansas lawmakers, working in a bipartisan atmosphere to do what's right for voters instead of the governor, showed the nation that political courage still exists in the Midwest.

"It is obvious that neither Doyle nor Sebelius, both Democrats, don't really care about the civil rights or personal safety of their constituents," Gottlieb observed, "but in Kansas at least, state legislators do, and once they cast a vote, they stick with it.

"But that's not the case in Wisconsin," he continued, "where earlier this year, Democrats Terry Van Akkeren of Sheboygan and John Steinbrink of Pleasant Prairie both flip-flopped, voting initially for passage of a concealed carry law, then voting to uphold Doyle's veto. One supposes that when they run for re-election, they will pull a 'John Kerry' on voters, saying that they 'actually voted for that bill before voting against it.'

"The difference between Wisconsin and Kansas Democrats appears to be that in the Badger State, party loyalty and upholding the party's anti-gun philosophy is more important than serving the voters," Gottlieb stated. "In Kansas, they obviously still understand that once you give your word, you keep it. Only four Wisconsin Democrats, Reps. Barbara Gronemus, Mary Hubler, Marlin Schneider and Amy Sue Vruwink, seem to get it because they voted to override Doyle.

"Politicians like Doyle and Sebelius always try to hide behind claims that they support the Second Amendment," Gottlieb said. "Well, it's all hot air. Telling people you support gun rights, then vetoing their right of self-defense is the zenith of arrogance and hypocrisy. Legislators should also remember that voting for gun rights, then voting against them isn't courageous, it's cowardly."

With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms -- http://www.ccrkba.org -- is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States. http://www.usnewswire.com/

39 posted on 03/30/2006 11:47:52 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: July 4th

Which makes "open carry" a joke. One person freaks out and the S.W.A.T Team will be monkey-piling on your a$$.


40 posted on 03/30/2006 11:49:35 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Ladysmith

2nd Amendment Bump!

41 posted on 03/30/2006 11:50:08 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Ladysmith; July 4th

Hit 'em with a "Deprivation of Civil Rights under Color of Law" lawsuit.


42 posted on 03/30/2006 11:56:08 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
This is from one Democrat from the *Kansas* Senate when they overrode their Democrat governor's veto:

“I decided to stick with my position of 10 years,” said Sen. Chris Steinegar, D-Kansas City. “I don’t like voting against my governor, but 99 percent of the time I’m with her.”

We need more like him here in Wisconsin.

43 posted on 03/30/2006 12:05:26 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: Ladysmith
The measure nevertheless allows cities to adopt ordinances banning the carrying of concealed handguns. Lincoln Mayor Colleen Seng and Omaha Mayor Mike Fahey opposed the bill, giving some indication that local bans could be sought in the state’s two largest cities.

Bad bad bad bad bad idea.

The state legislator should have the ONLY word on where guns can/cannot be carried. Not doing show is a recipe for confusion and disaster.

Here's what FL's law is:

790.33 Field of regulation of firearms and ammunition preempted.--

(1) PREEMPTION.--Except as expressly provided by general law, the Legislature hereby declares that it is occupying the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, and transportation thereof, to the exclusion of all existing and future county, city, town, or municipal ordinances or regulations relating thereto. Any such existing ordinances are hereby declared null and void. This subsection shall not affect zoning ordinances which encompass firearms businesses along with other businesses. Zoning ordinances which are designed for the purpose of restricting or prohibiting the sale, purchase, transfer, or manufacture of firearms or ammunition as a method of regulating firearms or ammunition are in conflict with this subsection and are prohibited.

[snip]

(3) POLICY AND INTENT.--

(a) It is the intent of this section to provide uniform firearms laws in the state; to declare all ordinances and regulations null and void which have been enacted by any jurisdictions other than state and federal, which regulate firearms, ammunition, or components thereof; to prohibit the enactment of any future ordinances or regulations relating to firearms, ammunition, or components thereof unless specifically authorized by this section or general law; and to require local jurisdictions to enforce state firearms laws.

44 posted on 03/30/2006 12:06:07 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Ladysmith
They should not give these cites anything that makes them think they can violate the 2nd Amendment. But this is a first from the state where I went to school. Try again next time and stop the left wingers from messing with the Constitution.
45 posted on 03/30/2006 12:13:53 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Ladysmith

Diane Feinstein has her California carry permit - but not for us "little people"


46 posted on 03/30/2006 12:24:08 PM PST by CATravelAgent (Unless you're the lead dog, the view is always the same)
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To: AdamSelene235

Great graphic - first one I've seen where it's better to be a blue state than a red state!

Congratulations Nebraska!


47 posted on 03/30/2006 12:33:12 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Ladysmith
Congratulations, Nebraska!

Sorry, congratulations are not in order. So long as the cities can override the state law, it's useless.

What a pain in the butt to keep track of what cities you can and cannot carry in.

Wonder what the hell the author meant by "the so-called “concealed carry” measure."???

I guess it's a step in the right direction but the Nebraskans have more work ahead.

48 posted on 03/30/2006 12:39:50 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Ladysmith

Good news for Nebraskans.


49 posted on 03/30/2006 12:44:36 PM PST by RockinRight (Yes...she's an excellent tour guide!)
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To: China Clipper

You can't have concealed carry in a state without Preemption. Preemption being that the state law supercedes any local law. How insane is it to be legal driving from Point A to Point C and being legal at the start of the trip but as you pass through Point B your committing a felony???

Preemption is a must.


50 posted on 03/30/2006 1:46:59 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Hey liberals, you be straight trippin. I get paid to get in your business.)
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