Posted on 03/30/2006 2:36:51 PM PST by Paul Ross
Mexico Offers Help in Exchange for Visas
by Amanda B. Carpenter
Posted Mar 27, 2006
The Mexican government placed a full-page advertisement in major U.S. newspapers last week that said Mexican efforts to stop illegal emigration into the U.S. would be contingent on the United States' providing a "sufficient number of appropriate visas" to Mexican nationals who now enter the U.S. illegally.
The ad was a summary of "Mexico and the Migration Phenomenon," a policy declaration adopted last February by Mexico’s Federal Congress. In the declaration, the Mexican government calls for a "bilateral medical insurance system" for Mexican workers in the U.S. and -- in what appeared to be a request for Mexican nationals to collect U.S. Social Security benefits -- for the U.S. to "allow Mexicans working in the United States to collect their pension benefits in Mexico." However, neither the Mexican Embassy nor Allyn & Co., a U.S. public relations firm that placed the ads for the Mexican government, responded to questions seeking to clarify exactly what these words meant.
The ads ran in the Washington Post, New York Times and Los Angeles Times last Monday. Under the heading "Recommendations and Commitments" the Mexican government advised: "If a guest country offers a sufficient number of appropriate visas to cover the largest possible number of workers and their families, who currently cross the border without document because of the impossibility of obtaining them, Mexico should be responsible for guaranteeing that each person who decides to leave does so following legal channels."
Mexican Embassy Communications Director Rafael Laveaga declined to say what the Mexican government would do about illegal emigration if the U.S did not supply "sufficient" visas. "We wouldn’t like to speculate on what would happen in a negative way because on one hand, we acknowledge the sovereign position of the U.S. Congress to decide immigration policy in this country," he said. "On the other hand, however, the immigration phenomenon is a shared responsibility and must be addressed as a shared responsibility problem. … If a guest country offers a sufficient number of visas then we would be in a position to promote ways so that Mexicans can legally leave Mexico."
The number of visas it would take to satisfy the Mexican government would rest on U.S. market conditions, according to Laveaga. "I can't anticipate numbers," he said. "Our answer to that question is the number of visas the market requires. Our point of view is that this is a market-driven migration."
The Pew Hispanic Center estimated that, in 2005, 6.2 million Mexicans were living illegally in the U.S., accounting for about 56% of the illegal alien population in the country. Also, in 2004, according to the State Department's Office of Immigration Statistics, 136,518 Mexicans legally obtained temporary-worker, exchange-visitor or intra-company-transfer status in the U.S. and 175,364 were granted legal permanent residence.
Unlike the Irish government which has endorsed the guest-worker/amnesty proposal sponsored by Senators John McCain (R.-Ariz.) and Teddy Kennedy (D.-Mass.), the Mexican government, Laveaga says, will not support or oppose particular bills in Congress. "We will respect whatever the Senate and House of Representatives come up with because immigration is a domestic issue," he said. But, he pointed out, "We are asking for a realistic approach. And, of course, we can't ignore that the majority of undocumented workers happen to be from Mexico."
"We have not made a pact or endorsed any bill on Capitol Hill," Laveaga said.
"Mexico Links Cooperation to Visas for Illegals"
That version was a lot more straightforward choice of titles. Wonder why they softened it in the online version?
Sounds like bait and switch to me, or a shakedown.
Something that makes more sense is "real estate" for "people". We can work out the math later, but there are parts of Mexico that are worth something. So, for each Mexican who slips into the US, Mexico gives up a piece of Mexico to the US for our exclusive use.
So the 'soft feudal' state of Mexico will do yet more to export their sefy class and get the dollars back to Mexico. Are we surprised by the 'Foxy' move?
JUST BUILD THE WALL!
"efforts to stop illegal emigration into the U.S. would be contingent on the United States' providing a "sufficient number of appropriate visas" to Mexican nationals who now enter the U.S. illegally."
Dear Mexico,
You can take your extortion racket and shove it up your backside.
Sincerly,
Proud_USA_Republican
OMG....... I gave Bush way to much credit for being tough. Man were we slapped in the face unbeleivable! We have been betrayed big time, ok GOP watch WHAT HAPPENS IN Nov! AND 2008
wATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE DONATIONS you won't GET!!!
Please FOLKS DON'T TAKE THIS, stop SENDING ANY DONATIONS TO THE GOP!
Visas are for guests, not invaders.
Blackmail through newspaper?
First the mexican flag flying over an upside-down US Flag, then a mexican flying IN PLACE of a US Flag, now this sort of blackmail!?
This sort of thing can't be left unanswered.
that would be 'browmailing' their way in
And if you cannot get your beloved democraps back into power in November, what will be your next clarion call?
Blackmail
The Mexican "government" is nothing more than an organized crime syndicate.
How dare Mr. Fox basically threaten us! The score can be settled come November.
GO TO HELL, MEXICO.
Just burned my 5th little downloaded Mexican flag and invited a few friends over for a cocktail and torch their flag gathering later.
Dear Vicente Fox,
Remebering History Well..as In Hoc Does...we'll just go 1836 on your arse, and solve the problem ourselves.
Warmest Regards,
In Hoc
Build the wall; put in the mine field; put up guard towers; put in pill-boxes.
Instead of visas, I say just give them California less the national parks. Give them the whole d@mn thing, hollywood included. Give them Rob Reiner, Madonna, Napa Valley, San Francisco, Golden Gate, the San Andreas Fault and the whole kaboodle; last American out, turn off the lights and grab the flag. In 5 years when they have reduced it to third world squalor on par with the rest of mexico, tell them the next border remarcation will involve gunfire.
A full-sized cotton flag will burn much longer and make for a better cocktail gathering...
Maybe it's time for a white middle class protest nationwide.
The PEW Center (far left) routinely lies. The numbers of illegals here are more like 30-40 million.
But then Oregon's a blue state...
Bump!
Would that 'effort to stop illegal emigration' extend to keeping the Mexican Army on their side of the border?
[Sounds like bait and switch to me, or a shakedown.]
And why do we need Mexico's help securing our border? It's our responsibility.
We wouldn't have an illegal immigration problem if the government would just enforce the law and punish businesses that hire illegals.
We could always announce that we intend to put landmines on the border and do it in a few places just to scare the crap out of them.
Never mind iraq, we need to take out the terrorista mex govt.!
Give them Louisiana, it's just an overflowed toilet bowl anyway.
How about no thank-you and no?
They'd never take it.
I think your a little high with you estimate. 20-24 million illegals is a number that is verifiable.AWB
English Translation: We will stop illegal emigration if you let everyone in legally.
In the declaration, the Mexican government calls for a "bilateral medical insurance system" for Mexican workers in the U.S. and -- in what appeared to be a request for Mexican nationals to collect U.S. Social Security benefits -- for the U.S. to "allow Mexicans working in the United States to collect their pension benefits in Mexico."
English Translation: We'll leave if you pay us enough to stay home.
I don't think you're threatened. They won't be able to afford Starbucks.
I wonder if they will attack if we don't do what they say..... oh yeah they are already invading.
They'd never take it.
Actually, they are taking it. Illegal aliens from Mexico have been flooding into Louisiana to take all of the construction jobs because there are not enough locals who are willing to give up welfare to work.
I wouldn't mine giving amnesty to a couple million Mexican immigrants if we could send a couple million of our welfare recipients to Mexico.
Exactly the wrong thing for them to say.
We need to finish building the wall, first, and immediately.
Actually I think we should stop issuing any visas to anyone from Mexico until they actually start to address the situation in any meaningful way.
susie
"The Mexican government placed a full-page advertisement in major U.S. newspapers last week...."
Dosen't anyone else find it interesting that not a single Freeper mentioned this full-page ad in major U.S. Newspapers ?
I was thinking the same thing today. Why would these folks possibly want to turn part of the US into part of Mexico? Just to 'get even' with us? That is stupid. They would just eff it up like the rest of their country. Their corrupt government is the problem.
Slowly annex Mexico as you suggested. Just like the Israelis can turn a sand pile into a thriving farm, our people could do the same in Newer New Mexico. The New American Old Mexicans would be much better off.
Oh, I'm quite cognizant of that and have been joking about Nueva Orleans and Calle Bourbon on FR for some time....but I doubt it's the kind of place they'll stay once the construction jobs dry up....and they will. To think that the money allocated to rebuild NO will actually go toward construction is to demonstrate one's naievete with regards to LA politics.
"...if we could send a couple million of our welfare recipients to Mexico."
Part of my rationale for handing the keys to California to Vicente Fox is so that we'd have a place to send future hurrican refugees....;-)
Great now we are begging a third world POC country to help us cause we are too PC to do the right thing!!!!
Does anybody doubt that this pres has sold us down the river?
They can start with giving us the Baja peninsula as a down-payment. Cancun is next.
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