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Peugeots too slow, French police get Subarus
CNN ^ | 3-31-2006

Posted on 03/31/2006 1:22:13 PM PST by Cagey

French Gendarmerie Nationale to use Subaru Impreza WRXs for chase vehicles. French cars were too slow.

PARIS (Reuters) - The next time a criminal in a getaway car in France looks in the rear window the chances are that the vehicle in pursuit will be a blue French police Subaru.

The Japanese car brand, part of Fuji Heavy Industries, has sped past French rivals to win a key contract for fast intervention cars for the highway police.

"We have a contract to supply 63 cars to the Gendarmerie Nationale for patrols on the roads," Subaru spokesman Gilles Varmoux said on Thursday. "There was a tender for four-door, four-wheel drive cars that could go faster than 240 km per hour (149 miles per hour) and had a reasonable price," he added.

The Subaru Impreza WRX cars will replace Peugeot's 306 S16 and the Renault Megane Coupe.

The police forces are among the most faithful clients of the local car makers, but this time the French offerings were just too slow.

"These new vehicles will allow the national police to fight the most serious and most dangerous road offences," the Gendarmerie Nationale, part of the defence ministry, said on its Website.

It added that 156 agents would be trained to drive the cars on the Bugatti racing circuit of Le Mans in west France.

The cars are for the rapid intervention brigade (BRI) which previously had vehicles that could not go faster than 190 km per hour, or about 118 miles per hour.

The BRI, spread over the country at 55 stations, will intervene only in case of a crime or serious offence when a driver has to be stopped immediately.

In 2005 there were 53,000 instances of people on the run in cars or refusing to stop at the police's request.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: automakers; france; leo; peugeot; subaru
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1 posted on 03/31/2006 1:22:14 PM PST by Cagey
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2006 Subaru Impreza WRX

2 posted on 03/31/2006 1:22:56 PM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Cagey

Say, what about a nice Porsche....


3 posted on 03/31/2006 1:23:26 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Cagey
they still chase criminals in france?
4 posted on 03/31/2006 1:24:07 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: proxy_user; 2Trievers

Ahhhhh, Italiano!

5 posted on 03/31/2006 1:25:12 PM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

yeah, if they catch the criminal, the criminal gets to torch the cop car.


6 posted on 03/31/2006 1:25:44 PM PST by RolandBurnam (I WANT SOME PORK RINDS!!!!!)
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To: Cagey

They are alot faster in reverse.


7 posted on 03/31/2006 1:25:55 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: proxy_user

8 posted on 03/31/2006 1:26:28 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: frogjerk

And ze case is sol-ved.


9 posted on 03/31/2006 1:28:00 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Cagey
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10 posted on 03/31/2006 1:29:26 PM PST by digger48
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To: Cagey

The last person I knew in the US who bought a Peugeot abandoned it on the side of the road before it was six months old. He (along with the dealer) couldn't keep it running and the dealer told him not to come back. Seems to have been a common story. Other mechanics wouldn't work on it.


11 posted on 03/31/2006 1:31:03 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: Cagey
Renault and Peugeot? It has to *start* before you can chase anyone!
12 posted on 03/31/2006 1:31:59 PM PST by Clay Moore ("My daddy says I'm this close to living in the yard!" Ralph Wiggum)
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To: digger48

A friend has a WRX-STI and I was more than impressed when he just about put me through the passenger seat in first gear. A very quick car.

13 posted on 03/31/2006 1:32:01 PM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Cagey

Wow. What's with the gold anodized rims. Pimp my Ride for Cops.


14 posted on 03/31/2006 1:36:52 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: Cagey

I hope they are fire proof. I hear that the French "youth" may
be protesting again...


15 posted on 03/31/2006 1:37:38 PM PST by erics-chi town
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To: Cagey
Yeppers - the STI has a fantastic horsepower-to-weight ratio which makes it a beast in a road rally and absolutely useless in the snow. At least they're easy to tow from a ditch.

I love my old SVX but they're too heavy to race. Sigh!

16 posted on 03/31/2006 1:38:18 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Cagey

What was the make of that really ugly police car in the Pink Panther movies?


17 posted on 03/31/2006 1:38:32 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: 6SJ7

Excelsior, You Fathead!


18 posted on 03/31/2006 1:40:22 PM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Billthedrill
absolutely useless in the snow.

That's why they run them in the Finnish rally every year. They're so useless.

Perhaps a driving lesson or two. Snow is different. Throttle is not binary.

19 posted on 03/31/2006 1:43:53 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: TommyDale

Few cars achieved as much fame in the 60's as Peter Sellers wicker painted Mini Cooper used in the Pink Panther film "A Shot in the Dark". Sellers commissioned this car from the Radford company in 1964, specifying every conceivable extra and built to a standard usually reserved for Rolls Royce motor cars. Sellers used the car as his personal transport for a number of years then he sent it to film director Blake Edwards as a gift. The museum was please to acquire this most famous mini for its collection in 1994.

20 posted on 03/31/2006 1:46:34 PM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
they still chase criminals in france?

It's so they can get the cars away from restive mobs of Muzzie youts, faster than they can run.

'nee-nah-nee-nah-nee-nah'

21 posted on 03/31/2006 1:48:03 PM PST by Riley ("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
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To: Cagey
There was another car, in "The Pink Panther Strikes Back" that was the ugliest car in the world. It rolled down a hill, crashing and landing in a swimming pool.
22 posted on 03/31/2006 1:50:46 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: Cagey
I wonder why they didn't just get more Smart cars (also made in France, for Mercedes).


23 posted on 03/31/2006 1:51:23 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Cagey
The MN state patrol has been testing the hemi charger police interceptor and they have been thrilled with it. Even fully loaded down with gear and electronics it completely lays waist to the crown vic, and anything else it has to chase.
24 posted on 03/31/2006 1:54:35 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: DainBramage

Those Fiats have been catching on fire a lot lately!


25 posted on 03/31/2006 1:55:20 PM PST by dblshot
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To: Dinsdale
Perhaps a driving lesson or two. Snow is different. Throttle is not binary.

LOL!

Once a few years back I was cruising along a boulevard around here and this woman came past me in a station wagon WFO! Then she let it totally off. Then she hit WFO. Then off. Then WFO. Then off. All the way thru traffic.

I just shook my head and wondered who the heck taught her how to drive.

26 posted on 03/31/2006 1:58:09 PM PST by Looking4Truth (Radical Muslims and Illegal immigrants: Too stupid to create so they invade or destroy.)
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To: Cagey

OMG.......this is tooo much. This in a country that has stricken any and all non french words from it's lexicon.


27 posted on 03/31/2006 1:59:35 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: FreePaul
Hey, we owned a Peugeot diesel during the gas crunch way back when. Got to buy gas at the local oil delivery company garage. No lines, low prices. The car lasted nearly ten years. It was so banged up we finally gave it to our son when he got his license.

Didn't take long before he banged it up some more and we had to junk it.

28 posted on 03/31/2006 2:01:24 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: OldFriend
Hey, we owned a Peugeot diesel during the gas crunch way back when.

That would be 1979. I bought an Olds Cutlass with a diesel engine and it was great not having to wait in lines or messing around with odd/even gas days.

There was a downside. Because they were in high demand I paid a thousand dollars over sticker premium. When I traded it it, they deducted fifteen hundred dollars because no one wanted diesels anymore.

Oh yes, it left a trail of black smoke and was noisy too. No more diesels for me, thank you.

29 posted on 03/31/2006 2:07:23 PM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Cagey

French cops getting Subarus? I predict an increase in lesbians applying to be French cops.


30 posted on 03/31/2006 2:11:33 PM PST by clintonh8r (While pandering to the "Hispanic vote" the GOP will be voted out of power.)
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To: clintonh8r
I predict an increase in lesbians applying to be French cops.

Hahahahaha! My daughter calls them "Lesbarus".

31 posted on 03/31/2006 2:13:17 PM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: miliantnutcase

I used to have a 1967 Dodge Coronet 440 that ate a couple Crown Vics back in the day. Every now and then, a cop would offer to race...who was I to refuse directions from a police officer?


32 posted on 03/31/2006 2:14:26 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: Cagey
Oh yes, it left a trail of black smoke and was noisy too. No more diesels for me, thank you.

Dude, you had probably the worst attempt at a diesel car in existence to this day. The new ones like they have all over Europe are clean burning turbodiesels that have plenty of power and don't even make that clickey-clack sound like those old boats GM produced.

The American diesel pickups are pretty cool, too. Although once I had to test drive a diesel Excursion and it was so noisy going down the road it was ridiculous. Who'd want a luxury SUV that makes all that racket? Oh well it wasn't me who wasted 60K on the thing. /rambling mode off

33 posted on 03/31/2006 2:15:45 PM PST by Looking4Truth (Radical Muslims and Illegal immigrants: Too stupid to create so they invade or destroy.)
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To: Cagey
LOL...our other car at the time was an Olds. It too lasted forever but it was not diesel.

We usually have our cars for at least ten years.

I remember when our esteemed Governor Whitman wanted all cars over ten years old OFF the roads. She was such a lemon of a governor.

Just last year our 13 yr. old Dodge Ram Charger died. We replaced it with a Subaru Forrester. It's a great little car but I miss my monster SUV!

34 posted on 03/31/2006 2:17:26 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Dinsdale
Yeah, tell me about it. We towed eight of them this last winter on the road headed up to the local ski resort. Now, if you're a rally driver AND you have the right tires, sure. If you're a 20-year-old newbie with the tires they sell them with, you're toast.

Ever seen those, BTW? The're dang near slicks. Great on pavement although I have seen the STI's smoke all four. Why they insist on running those things in the snow I haven't a clue but my neighbor's sure grateful. He runs the towing service.

35 posted on 03/31/2006 2:19:49 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: miliantnutcase

Current Hemi Charger in police service: front wheel drive? I would assume that the transaxle is rather stout. I have heard complaints from police departments regarding front wheel drive in pursuit service (at least regarding the Ford Taurus). Biggest complaint next to transxle was motor mounts.


36 posted on 03/31/2006 2:20:25 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Cagey
"These new vehicles will allow the national police to fight the most serious and most dangerous road offences," the Gendarmerie Nationale, part of the defence ministry, said on its website.

Just thought I'd highlight that little gem in case any progressives are reading.

37 posted on 03/31/2006 2:22:43 PM PST by TheMole
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To: Cagey

Keep in mind also that the 1979 Olds Cutlass diesel was really what I call a bastard diesel. A very poor modification of the existing V-8 engine. The design of the modification never fully took into account the increased compression. Cylinder heads, engine block bolts were the most frequent points of failure, since these components were little changed from the gasoline engine design, if at all. One of General Motors worse moves.


38 posted on 03/31/2006 2:25:25 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Looking4Truth
About 20 years ago, my Dad bought a Volvo 740 GLE Sedan. I don't remember why, exactly, but he ended up getting a turbo diesel (I think it was because he's an easy sell, and the dealership wanted to get rid of it so they sicced their deadliest salesman on him).

The thing was a tank, and was a great car with the only draw back being that we had to get gas at the truck stops, since no station in town stocked diesel. Although, from what I remember, the only advantage with the turbo was in annoying tailgaiters. All he'd have to do was hit the gas, and this massive black cloud would jet out as the car sped forward. The thing smelled like a city bus. Ah... memories.

39 posted on 03/31/2006 2:43:41 PM PST by RepoGirl ("That boy just ain't right..." Hank Hill)
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To: Looking4Truth; Fred Hayek
At the time, Detroit Diesel was part of General Motors and I've heard that engineers from Detroit Diesel wanted to be involved in the GM automotive diesel project, but the good ol' boys at Oldsmobile said they didn't need them and had all the knowledge they needed right in their own engineering department.

A total disaster. They also had a problem with the Roosa Master fuel pumps that were not designed to sit where the engineers placed them. The heat did a job on the seals and more than 75% of those fuel pumps developed leaks.
40 posted on 03/31/2006 2:50:33 PM PST by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: Cagey

Ahhh, Das ist deutsche.


41 posted on 03/31/2006 2:51:17 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Fred Hayek

no, the charger is rear wheel drive along with it's cousins the magnum and 300c. Thats why the police were initially interested.


42 posted on 03/31/2006 2:57:06 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase

I didn't realize most of the French police were gay,


43 posted on 03/31/2006 2:58:50 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Cagey
"These new vehicles will allow the national police to fight the most serious and most dangerous road offences," the Gendarmerie Nationale, part of the defence ministry, said on its Website.

I take it a Peugeot can't outright a crowd of Muslims with matches.

44 posted on 03/31/2006 3:04:58 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Clay Moore

The police need a vehicle that can outrun the young Muzzies in the burbs around Paris. Most of the Renaults were torched in the unrest several months ago...hundreds of dollars worth of damage.


45 posted on 03/31/2006 3:06:38 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: BW2221

ROFL we we!!


46 posted on 03/31/2006 3:12:36 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: RepoGirl
All he'd have to do was hit the gas, and this massive black cloud would jet out as the car sped forward. The thing smelled like a city bus. Ah... memories.

LOL!! Sounds like your dad and me would get along great.

Let's go eat sushi and not pay. :-)

47 posted on 03/31/2006 3:19:25 PM PST by Looking4Truth (Radical Muslims and Illegal immigrants: Too stupid to create so they invade or destroy.)
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To: OldFriend; Cagey
I looked at Peugeot diesels during the gas crunch but thought they were a little light on construction. Later bought a VW diesel and drove it for almost eight years.

Sometime in the mid eighties Peugeot started selling junk. They finally had to drop out of the US market.

A neighbor had three olds "diesels" in succession but had nothing but engine and transmission problems. There were several businesses here which specialized in converting the olds diesels to gas. As a friend of mine opined "Oldsmobile thought they made a diesel."

48 posted on 03/31/2006 4:12:29 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: frogjerk

Mama mia! Must be in Beverly Hills! ;-)


49 posted on 03/31/2006 4:28:03 PM PST by QQQQ
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To: FreePaul
Heaven only knows what Oldsmobile was thinking.

We love cars tho. Owned an Alpha Romeo Spider Veloce.....lived in the shop. Drove us crazy until we finally traded it in.

50 posted on 03/31/2006 5:25:08 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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