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Berger Will Plead Guilty To Taking Classified Paper(April 1, 2005 )
The Washington Post ^
| April 1, 2005
| John F. Harris and Allan Lengel
Posted on 03/31/2006 5:46:25 PM PST by DallasMike
Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, a former White House national security adviser, plans to plead guilty to a misdemeanor, and will acknowledge intentionally removing and destroying copies of a classified document about the Clinton administration's record on terrorism.
Berger's plea agreement, which was described yesterday by his advisers and was confirmed by Justice Department officials, will have one of former president Bill Clinton's most influential advisers and one of the Democratic Party's leading foreign policy advisers in a federal court this afternoon.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 911; berger; bs; clinton; clintonistas; corruption; doj; nara; pants; sandyberger; terrorism; wot
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To: DallasMike
They sure managed to drip...drip...drip the info on THIS story, as opposed to All DeLay All the Time, and Wilsongate!
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:47:57 PM PST
by
Darkwolf377
(No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
To: DallasMike
Another well-timed Friday release.
To: Darkwolf377
Friday afternoon news dump!
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:49:38 PM PST
by
Howlin
("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
To: Darkwolf377
MISDEMEANOR???? People are thrown out of the military for a LOT less!! The Clintnistas escape again.
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:49:46 PM PST
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
To: DallasMike
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:49:51 PM PST
by
VOA
To: DallasMike
Under terms negotiated by Berger's attorneys and the Justice Department, he has agreed to pay a $10,000 fine and accept a three-year suspension of his national security clearance. WOW! What a harsh penalty! This will really deter others from manipulating classified documents to cover up ineptness and crimes!
These terms must be accepted by a judge before they are final,
I don't suppose we can hope for a hanging judge?
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:50:02 PM PST
by
Yossarian
(The media is now simply running a 24/7 soap opera with Dubya cast as the arch villain.)
To: DallasMike
Wow! I'm surprised since I thought his fate was a done deal:
The terms of Berger's agreement required him to acknowledge to the Justice Department the circumstances of the episode. Rather than misplacing or unintentionally throwing away three of the five copies he took from the archives, as the former national security adviser earlier maintained, he shredded them with a pair of scissors late one evening at the downtown offices of his international consulting business.
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:50:21 PM PST
by
mathprof
To: DallasMike
He accepts complete responsibility for his actions, and regrets the mistakes he made during his review of documents at the National Archives." Hmmm. Next time I get caught robbing a bank, I will try this explanation.
"Sir, I regret my mistakes".
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:51:57 PM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: BigSkyFreeper; Miss Marple; Peach
A misdemeanor plea agreement on FRIDAY afternoon.
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:52:01 PM PST
by
onyx
(Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
To: DallasMike
Why did he ever bother? He's either very stupid or there's more than meets the eye here.
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:52:04 PM PST
by
bkepley
To: Howlin
Hello,
Also interesting, the article is dated April 1st.... :)
Glad to be here, MOgirl
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:52:55 PM PST
by
MOgirl
(Hillary. She's a totalitarian freak. And you know what I'm talkin' about.)
To: DallasMike
Archives officials have said previously that Berger had copies only, and that no original documents were lost. It remains unclear whether Berger knew that, or why he destroyed three versions of a document but left two other versions intact. Officials have said the five versions were largely similar, but contained slight variations as the after-action report moved around different agencies of the executive branch. Largely similar! LOL! Not copies.
Maybe he distroyed the copies with his notes "I agree with Dick, Osama will boogie to Baghdad."
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:53:23 PM PST
by
Shermy
(President Bush, tell us what jobs Americans won't do.)
To: DallasMike
A misdemeanor? This only further confirms that there is no crime in high politics as long as high politics write the laws.
To: DallasMike
some animals are more equal than other animals. republican or democrat is a title for OUR consumption.
To: Ann Archy; Howlin
Don't worry, the Sunday morning shows will be nothing but wall-to-wall coverage of how the National Security Advisor admitted to destroying documents about the President's anti-terror record. You just know there will be nothing but nonstop criticism of the Clinton Administration as being corrupt, and a complete hammering of the Democrats ("Let's move on, there are important issues concerning the American people") who defend Berger.
P.S. You wanna send me the check for that swampland?
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:54:23 PM PST
by
Darkwolf377
(No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
To: Yossarian
I don't suppose we can hope for a hanging judge? I bet we get a clinton appointee...
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:54:48 PM PST
by
null and void
(Start worrying. Details to follow...)
To: DallasMike
Would it be a misdemeanor if I waltzed out the door with classified documents?
To: DallasMike
"Is that a state secret in your pocket, Mr. Berger, or are you just glad to see me?"
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:55:23 PM PST
by
Bernard
(History repeats itself because people don't change.)
To: DallasMike
Berger belongs in a federal prison.
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:55:55 PM PST
by
OldFriend
(AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
To: DallasMike
So he lied as well as stole documents and destroyed them - un-freaking-believable!
To: Shermy
Officials have said the five versions were largely similar, but contained slight variations as the after-action report moved around different agencies of the executive branch.
It wasn't the memos, it was the marginal notes and initials.
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:57:20 PM PST
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: DallasMike
I'll tell you one thing, if he goes before a confirmation some day in the future we're likely to hear a lot more about this.
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:57:31 PM PST
by
bkepley
To: DallasMike
Steal a loaf of bread and unlike good old boy Sandy Berger, you will be charged as a felon and likely do serious time in the hoosegow.
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:58:04 PM PST
by
hgro
To: Howlin
Check the date
It's from last year
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:58:10 PM PST
by
Mo1
("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
To: DallasMike
"Under terms negotiated by Berger's attorneys and the Justice Department, he has agreed to pay a $10,000 fine and accept a three-year suspension of his national security clearance." Does this mean he gets his "security clearance" back when the three years are up? Why was he allowed to keep his clearance after he left office? Does Bill Clinton have a security clearance and can he go to Archives and examine, copy or remove any classified document he wishes?
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posted on
03/31/2006 5:59:04 PM PST
by
StormEye
To: Mo1
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:00:17 PM PST
by
onyx
(Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
To: onyx
Check the date
April 1st .... 2005
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:00:36 PM PST
by
Mo1
("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
To: Mo1; Howlin
LOLOL
an A+ for you, MO1. ;-)
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:00:59 PM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
To: DallasMike
And yet ANOTHER example of the anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-life Democratic Crime Syndicate.
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:01:21 PM PST
by
PGalt
To: Mo1
ROFLOL!
One of the few times, I didn;t LOOK!
LOL!
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:01:29 PM PST
by
onyx
(Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
To: Mo1
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:01:47 PM PST
by
Howlin
("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
To: Darkwolf377
There is a different law for the Democrats than for Republicans.....t's SICKENING!
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:02:46 PM PST
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
To: NormsRevenge
Well .. I knew he was already sentenced to probation .. I figured something was up
Though I will admit .. I did have to take a double take *L*
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:02:50 PM PST
by
Mo1
("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
To: onyx
LOL .. this one of the few time I did look
I normaly ALWAYS fall for it
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:03:57 PM PST
by
Mo1
("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
To: DallasMike; Howlin; Peach; Fedora; piasa; Marine_Uncle; backhoe; ravingnutter
UNBELIEVABLY WEAK!!!
This is unreal - this slimebag should have served JAIL TIME with a FELONY on his record for this. I know this plea deal was discussed or rumored some time ago, but still it's absolutely galling when it's finally announced (and with a Friday night anti-media dump to minimize publicity). At a minimum, the government should never have let him plead without agreement that he would relinquish his security clearance FOR LIFE. I have a friend who used to work in a high office in the Pentagon, who says that outstanding military careers have been ended for much less than this. Sandy Burglar will wash his hands of this and still be eligible to serve in a future 'Rat administration if (heaven forbid) there should be one.....
"Officials have said the five versions were largely similar, but contained slight variations as the after-action report moved around different agencies of the executive branch."
Gee, would those "slight variations" be the handwritten remarks of people like Bill Clinton, Algore, and Sandy Burglar himself???? I know that's been denied by some stories in the past, but it seems pretty near inconceivable he would have bothered to do these nefarious deeds or would have cared about vanishing THREE versions of the report down the Orwellian memory-hole unless they each contained unique features that he simply had to prevent the 9/11 Omission Commission from seeing........ SANDY BURGLAR IS SCUM.
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:04:11 PM PST
by
Enchante
(Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
To: DallasMike
This comment is for general consumption.
I found this 'deal' contemptible !
If some lowly GS9 had done what Berger has done that poor person would be ruined for life. Berger skates with a wrist slap ! I bet Berger still has clearances !
What does Berger 'kiss-in-the-dark' punishment say to all the more lowly workers who hold security clearances.
One law for he & another law for thee !
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:07:27 PM PST
by
Reily
To: Enchante
"outstanding military careers have been ended for much less than this"
That is, for far less serious non-criminal mishandling of a classified document such as leaving it on your desk inadvertently, etc. What Sandy Burglar did was obviously completely intentional and pre-meditated, criminal in the extreme, and goes far beyond the truly 'inadvertent' actions that have wrecked careers of some otherwise fine officers. Treating Sandy Burglar with such "kid gloves" makes a mockery of the standards and laws for handling classified materials. It certainly makes it clear yet again that 'Rat scumbags do not have to follow the same laws and rules as all the rest of us!!
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:07:50 PM PST
by
Enchante
(Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
To: Mo1
Check the date
April 1st .... 2005
Oh, crap. I really messed up. I was browsing the Washington Post website, this story came up, and I thought it was brand new.
Sorry, guys.
To: DallasMike
...desperate people do very desperate things.
Connecting "dots" lead right to clinton's spineless actions during the mid 90's when nations were trying to deal with UBL AND OFFERED HIM to the clinton administration and scum bag did nothing because he worried about polls.....thus after numerous "actions" with no reactions, UBL showed his followers the US was weak and not willing to respond.
Able Danger,berger's stuffing,corelick's wall,tenet's TWO face to face meetings with clinton over three years, while
embassies were being blown up, USS Cole, and a very nasty and growing UBL even more popular and clinton...DID NOTHING.
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:08:25 PM PST
by
Doogle
(USAF ...7th AF...408MMS..Ubon ,Thailand..."69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO!!)
To: DallasMike; Mo1
LOL! You mean you fooled yourself too?
I feel MUCH better.
Mo1 is the smart gal.
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:09:20 PM PST
by
onyx
(Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
To: Ann Archy
"MISDEMEANOR???? People are thrown out of the military for a LOT less!!"
If a military type was to be caught stealing Top Secret SCI, they would be reduced in rank to E-1, forfeit all pay, and spend a bunch of years in Leavenworth.
Bush should have never left this guy get away with this. The Dems are now beating their faux security drums. He should be hitting them over the head about this crime.
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:10:53 PM PST
by
Wristpin
("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
To: DallasMike
There are giant gorillas in your front yard....
April Fools
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:13:04 PM PST
by
woofie
To: onyx
Yes, I really did fool myself.
To: DallasMike
he shredded them with a pair of scissors late one evening at the downtown offices of his international consulting business. - the 'punishment' is exactly what they said how many years go? In other words - no punishment and in 3 years he's got security clearance again?
Were he a republican, he'd go to jail - for a long time and never work in government again....and every republican that had ever as much as passed him in hallway would be under indictment.
And why has he never been made to disclose who sent him to steal the documents - indeed, why isn't he being charged with stealing security information? He's only being charged - if you can call it that = with mis-speaking.
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:15:20 PM PST
by
maine-iac7
("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
To: onyx; DallasMike
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:18:43 PM PST
by
Mo1
("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
To: onyx
I'm not surprised he would plead guilty for the misdemeanor...he must have been laughing at the Justice Dept. the whole time he was signing the plea deal..
NOW, he will probably sign on to help the dems with their plans to impeach President Bush next year...
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:20:42 PM PST
by
Txsleuth
To: MOgirl
Good point, MO
I wonder how many stories may be "Fools jokes" from midnight tonight until midnight tomorrow night..LOL
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:21:45 PM PST
by
Txsleuth
To: DallasMike
Fat Sandy was protected by a J. Edgar Hoover Insurance policy...
amazing what you can get away with when your old boss has a safety deposit box full of F.B.I. files...
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:21:49 PM PST
by
kellynla
(Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
To: Mo1
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posted on
03/31/2006 6:25:39 PM PST
by
sarasota
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