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High School Kid Who Burned Mexican Flag Arrested And Charged With Arson
FreeRepublic ^ | 3/31/06 | kstewskis

Posted on 03/31/2006 8:52:07 PM PST by lowbridge

Just got home from work, and was listening to Joe Crummy on KFYI interview one of the dads of the kids that burned the Mexican flag:

Apparently, his kid was arrested by AJ Police and was held in detention in Florence all day yesterday. CHarged with Arson. It took all of their savings to get a retainer for an atty.

It gets better. The family is now getting death threats. They were informed by police that there are those trying to find out where the family lives, and are going after them. AJ police stated to the father, there is nothing they can do about it, until someone actually shows up on their property.

Also, there was another kid from the school (Rod, who said he was a "future" Marine) read that letter from the school, forbiding any kid to wear any article of clothing resembling or representing a flag, no matter what country it represents.

He said emphatically, that he *will* wear the US Flag to school Monday.

Apparently this flag burning was near the ROTC table.

My respect for the kids in AJ have grown a hundred fold!

366 posted on 03/31/2006 5:52:20 PM PST by kstewskis

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Also here:

Just heard on the radio.

The kid was arrested and held by the police for arson and the family is getting death threats

18 posted on 03/31/2006 5:46:47 PM PST by Marine Inspector

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1 posted on 03/31/2006 8:52:10 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

No way!


2 posted on 03/31/2006 8:53:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: lowbridge

Had he burned an american flag they'd all be supporting him.

That tells me all I need to know.

Any idea how we can help this courageous lad out ?


3 posted on 03/31/2006 8:54:10 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: neverdem; Tolik; Travis McGee; Congressman Billybob; Darksheare; Do not dub me shapka broham

so... burning the Mexican flag is not political speech but "arson"

we are screwn, kids.


4 posted on 03/31/2006 8:54:13 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: lowbridge

Where do we contribute to his legal defense fund?


5 posted on 03/31/2006 8:54:39 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: lowbridge

This is preposterous! And outrageous!

And mean and evil and just plain nasty!


6 posted on 03/31/2006 8:55:32 PM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: lowbridge

But it's okay to burn the American flag?

Don't ya just love the hypocrisy.


7 posted on 03/31/2006 8:55:39 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: lowbridge

Does anyone doubt that had he burned an American flag he'd have been charged with nothing?


8 posted on 03/31/2006 8:55:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: lowbridge

When was the last time someone burned a flag in protest and got arrested for arson?


9 posted on 03/31/2006 8:56:04 PM PST by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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To: lowbridge

Apparently, his kid was arrested by AJ Police and was held in detention in Florence all day yesterday.




You try this with any (your lib protestor group here) and you will be sued for violating their free "speech" rights.


10 posted on 03/31/2006 8:56:13 PM PST by trubluolyguy (If I wanted to live in Mexico, I'd FRIGGING MOVE THERE!)
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To: lowbridge

I hate to ask because it will sound like splitting hairs, but was the flag burning indoors or outdoors? Makes a difference, though in no way is it arson as far as I understand that word. Isn't arson burning down a structure? If inside I can understand the charge if the school caught on fire and trucks were needed, but as far as I know that isn't the case.


11 posted on 03/31/2006 8:56:17 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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To: lowbridge

Ohhh Wowww!


12 posted on 03/31/2006 8:56:40 PM PST by onyx eyes (....post is from a fellow lemming...sigh...)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Legal defense? He shouldn't need it. This is freedom of speech!


13 posted on 03/31/2006 8:56:59 PM PST by AllmanBrosFan
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To: lowbridge

The mexican flag was first raised over the American flag on the flagpole before it was burned. This kid deserves a medal.


14 posted on 03/31/2006 8:57:31 PM PST by Kokojmudd (Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: lowbridge

What? No hate crime charges???


15 posted on 03/31/2006 8:58:08 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: lowbridge

Has Tancredo been briefed on this?


16 posted on 03/31/2006 8:58:56 PM PST by hispanarepublicana (Hey, Washington, which laws do I get to break?)
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To: lowbridge

This kid needs to get a community service award!


17 posted on 03/31/2006 8:59:06 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: lowbridge

The problem here is that he didn't burn his own property. It belonged to someone else. The Hate-America-First liberals buy their own flags (made in China, LOL), and then burn them.


18 posted on 03/31/2006 8:59:13 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: lowbridge
I thought I heard some of the Mexifornians burning an American Flag during one of their marches, and no one was going to be prosecuted...is that true? I thought when the flag was burned in the 60's it was "free Speech?" So is it only a crime if someone burns the Mexican flag, because that act, as an expression of speech, is not free?

I would take this to trial all the way am make the jury decide this one. It has to be an unanimous verdict of guilty. I'd say his odds are good.

Who will let him recover the cost of his defense, which is the biggest punishment he'll see?
19 posted on 03/31/2006 8:59:18 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (The real Churchill knew a blood thirsty gutter snipe when he saw one.)
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To: AllmanBrosFan

I thought that numerous courts have ruled it to be OK under the first Amendment.


20 posted on 03/31/2006 8:59:47 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: lowbridge

death threats for burning a mexican flag?


21 posted on 03/31/2006 8:59:52 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: lowbridge

I think it is notional burn a red, white, and green flag day!


22 posted on 03/31/2006 9:00:04 PM PST by me-here
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To: sonsofliberty2000

It's public school property, where a fishstick is a gun, an aspirin is cocaine, and arson means whatever they want it to.


23 posted on 03/31/2006 9:00:09 PM PST by CGTRWK
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To: lowbridge

I thought burning flags was free speech? Only US flags I guess.


24 posted on 03/31/2006 9:00:52 PM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: lowbridge
Not you lowbridge...but to the population in general...

I TOLD YOU SO...

25 posted on 03/31/2006 9:01:07 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH - PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: King Prout

Don't let the pro-illegal alien supporters here on FR hear you. They'll be on you like a duck on a June bug. They arrive in swarms.


26 posted on 03/31/2006 9:01:23 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: AllmanBrosFan
Legal defense? He shouldn't need it. This is freedom of speech!

Maybe not.. but maybe a good case for a counter $uit to get the bugger who made the complaint and the police department for fal$e arre$t.

27 posted on 03/31/2006 9:01:26 PM PST by glowworm ( Liberal thot is truly a mental condition...)
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To: CGTRWK

I always thought "arson" was the younger brother of "Orson" Wells...oh well.


28 posted on 03/31/2006 9:01:59 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (The real Churchill knew a blood thirsty gutter snipe when he saw one.)
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To: CGTRWK

Great point. Understand that its quite hard to wrap your mind around. You want so hard to not think educators are idiots, but they throw stuff like this at us constantly, and make little real sense.


29 posted on 03/31/2006 9:02:19 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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To: mortal19440

I thought so too. Are some flags more equal than others? If you get my drift.


30 posted on 03/31/2006 9:02:20 PM PST by AllmanBrosFan
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I'm gonna have to go check the other links, because this sounds unusual given the little I know about Apache Junction....it's an outlying suburb of Mesa, which in turn is a suburb of Phoenix - my impression of a few days there is that it's a pretty much Whitebread, retiree, "trailer people" kind of burg.

The demographics as I know 'em make the story a little confusing to me...

31 posted on 03/31/2006 9:02:48 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: glowworm

Those are very difficult cases to pursue...


32 posted on 03/31/2006 9:03:03 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (The real Churchill knew a blood thirsty gutter snipe when he saw one.)
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To: lowbridge
I'm beginning to think the left has won. Pity my hopefully to be grandkids.
33 posted on 03/31/2006 9:03:09 PM PST by lizma
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To: glowworm

I was thinking that myself. He should do that.


34 posted on 03/31/2006 9:03:15 PM PST by AllmanBrosFan
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To: glowworm

I was thinking that myself. He should do that.


35 posted on 03/31/2006 9:03:16 PM PST by AllmanBrosFan
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To: Andy from Beaverton
What? No hate crime charges???

Don't give them any ideas

36 posted on 03/31/2006 9:03:17 PM PST by me-here
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To: lowbridge

America is screwed. Don't forget to turn the lights out.


37 posted on 03/31/2006 9:03:54 PM PST by silentknight
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

If you find out where we can contribute, let me know. This is outrageous! These illegal scum have no loyalty to this country. They spit on our flag and trumpet the mexican flag. May they burn in hell.


38 posted on 03/31/2006 9:04:40 PM PST by Dengar01 (Go White Sox!)
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To: lowbridge

Pres. Bush could get a lot of brownie points with a visit and Presidential pardon... (just a thought if you're lurking Mr. President).


39 posted on 03/31/2006 9:05:05 PM PST by DocRock
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To: lowbridge

.....the charge will probably be reduced to "burning garbage without a permit"


40 posted on 03/31/2006 9:05:39 PM PST by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: King Prout
we are screwn, kids.

We're screwn, indeed. Remember fondly the America we inherited from our parents and grandparents. It no longer exists, and will never return.

41 posted on 03/31/2006 9:05:55 PM PST by SaveTheChief ("This one goes to eleven.")
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To: King Prout

Travis got suspended today....noticed yer ping list

over this

heated argument with one Tony Snow


42 posted on 03/31/2006 9:05:56 PM PST by wardaddy (you get older and you realize "tired" and "sleepy" are way different)
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To: lowbridge

This is going to get ugly. That's the last thing I want, but I'm telling you: It's going to get ugly. Prepare yourselves.


43 posted on 03/31/2006 9:05:58 PM PST by glad2bdad (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last. (Churchill))
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Outdoors.


44 posted on 03/31/2006 9:06:29 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: AllmanBrosFan

OH...Yeah...the ACLU should be all over this..../s


45 posted on 03/31/2006 9:07:09 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: lowbridge

This is how it started for Serbs in Kosovo in the 1980's.

Want to guess where they are now?

Thank you Bill Clinton.


46 posted on 03/31/2006 9:07:12 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: wardaddy

TRAVIS got suspended???


47 posted on 03/31/2006 9:07:26 PM PST by hispanarepublicana (Hey, Washington, which laws do I get to break?)
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To: pbrown

No doubt.....a powerful group on this forum are on the wrong side


48 posted on 03/31/2006 9:07:34 PM PST by wardaddy (you get older and you realize "tired" and "sleepy" are way different)
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To: MaineVoter2002

Evidently, there's a lot of racial tension at their high school.


49 posted on 03/31/2006 9:07:54 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

The only difference between a hate crime and a non-hate crime is the assumed thought process in the mind of the actor...therefore, thought is a crime.

A slug in the nose because you are ugly is punished less severely than a slug in the nose with an animous toward your victim's race. The acts are the same. The damage is the same. Now values are fair game for punishment.

Once values are fair game, Orwell's "1984" is here. We're only 20 years behind the title. Political thought will be next in line for definition as a hate crime.


50 posted on 03/31/2006 9:08:09 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (The real Churchill knew a blood thirsty gutter snipe when he saw one.)
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