Posted on 04/01/2006 12:32:53 AM PST by madconserv
Provisions:
Established measures to control U.S. borders, protect legal workers through worksite enforcement, and remove criminal and other deportable aliens:
Increased border personnel, equipment, and technology as well as enforcement personnel at land and air ports of entry; Authorized improvements in barriers along the Southwest border; Increased anti-smuggling authority and penalties for alien smuggling; Increased penalties for illegal entry, passport and visa fraud, and failure to depart; Increased INS investigators for worksite enforcement, alien smuggling, and visa overstayers; Established three voluntary pilot programs to confirm the employment eligibility of workers and reduced the number and types of documents that may be presented to employers for identity and eligibility to work; Broadly reformed exclusion and deportation procedures, including consolidation into a single removal process as well as the institution of expedited removal to speed deportation and alien exclusion through more stringent grounds of admissibility; Increased detention space for criminal and other deportable aliens; Instituted 3- and 10-year bars to admissibility for aliens seeking to reenter after having been unlawfully present in the United States; Barred re-entry of individuals who renounced their U.S. citizenship in order to avoid U.S. tax obligations.
Placed added restrictions on benefits for aliens:
Provided for a pilot program on limiting issuance of driver's licenses to illegal aliens; Declared aliens not lawfully present ineligible for Social Security benefits; Established procedures for requiring proof of citizenship for Federal public benefits
(Excerpt) Read more at uscis.gov ...
"All lands belong to those who occupy the land." If Americans let others occupy their land, so be it! There is ample evidence that Americans do not care. One example is population replacement: 40 million babies killed in the last 30 years (estimate). If Americans will not populate the land, others will come to do the job.
Congress will pass a law that will allow "illegals" to stay and work; case closed. The President will sign it; case closed. Nothing will change, IMHO, and the next "illegal" flow of people into the USofA will come from Asia and Africa. Americans unhappy with this development are also free to move. Such is the course of history!
So, you have given up on the whole thing, huh?
Who cares if they are taxing our system, schools, health care.
Do you disagree with my conclusions? That Conress will act and the Presient will sign this "new" law.
Here is another one for ya called Georga Takes A Stand:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607289/posts
I realize that was in the days when the liberals had control BUT why aren't any of our lawmakers following the law?
READ THIS and DEMAND the lawmakers stop being lawbreakers and I am speaking of our politicians!!!
"142. Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of September 30, 1996 (110 Statutes-at-Large 3009)
Provisions:
Established measures to control U.S. borders, protect legal workers through worksite enforcement, and remove criminal and other deportable aliens:
ENFORCE THESE LAWS NOW!
Not according to the polls I've seen. Fox, even CNN. But I like your passion.
I truly hope you are right.
There must be a lot wrong with these laws if they are being so widely ignored. A fix is in order, but if we don't fix it right, we will continue to have the same problems.
Maybe thsi kind of thing has to start happening at the state level. I tell you, the Cubans here in FL are totally pissed off about the Mexicans.
It's being ignored for the "new America".
| We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture. Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende. For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America. As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico. George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000. |
Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:
In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster
This is not an April Fool's day joke (but I am!) :^)
Have a nice weekend, Jinx.
Righto. Just ask the folks who use to live in Maywood, California. This was at one a small industrial town. I heard on a radio talk show that as recent as 1970 it was 80% white, but is now 97% Hispanic. According to the March 29, 2006 CBS Evening News, more than 50% of the city's population are illegal aliens, and the mayor has declared that the city will refuse to cooperate with any enforcement of U.S. immigration law, declaring the city a "haven for Illegals". A local church leader has agreed to work with him in this endeavor.
The pattern that emerges here is McCains joining two liberal senators to push through bills that are hurting America. First was the CFR which enabled people like George Soros to spend enormous amounts in Presidential elections while squelching free speech for the citizen and now this, which does not demand the Rule of Law it rewards the illegal law breaker.
IMHO nothing will be done by American law enforment to stop this flow of illegals into the USofA. That so, I will continue to hear and read about complaints like yours. Nothing will happen! You and I, and Tancredo, need to find out what happened? What changed? Why don't Americans care about this problem? Your answer is as god as mine.
Blake#1 is for our open border, I'm sure. Right, blake?
If you believe that our borders are closed, you live in a dream world. My position is; What can I do about the open borders? What I think you are for, correct me if I am wrong, is to continue living in a country that observes Anglo-Saxon, Christian, middle-class, culture. Thanks to the Democrap Party, Feminazis, Atheists, evironazis, envy, hate, my country is being changed. I don't like it!
A country that observes the 'rule of law' would be great. Or is that too 'anglo' for you?
Ah Ha!! Your first implied insult. "Too much Anglo for me" We are talking, but not understanding each other. I think we want the same for our country. Good luck to you!
madconserv said:
What the hell happened to all this?
The same thing that is happening to any current bill that might actually enforce the law. Same players.
Friday, January 13, 2006
llegal-immigration bill weakened by unlikely alliance - Deja Vu!
The 1998 Eugene Katz Award for Excellence in the Coverage of Immigration was awarded to Marcus Stern for this series of Articles.
It's nearly 8 years since the sad story below took place. The names of the players, those that would end our national sovereignty are the same. This is a must read! Know thy enemy.
Stern is the reporter to recently break the news of corruption troubles of Cong. Duke Cunningham.
http://www.cis.org/articles/Katz/katz1998.html
(Part III of Series)
Illegal-immigration bill weakened by unlikely alliance
By Marcus Stern
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE
04-Nov-1997
WASHINGTON - After years of bitter losses, Sen. Alan K. Simpson thought the political tides finally favored his quest to create a way to keep illegal immigrants from getting jobs.
The issue had emerged as a hot-button during the 1996 campaign. This time, he would surely defeat the powerful and savvy pro-immigration lobby.
"As I look out on this sea of faces, there are some who have been cutting my bicycle tire for 17 years," the now-retired Wyoming Republican said last year as the Judiciary Committee prepared to debate his proposals. "They're sitting back there, hollow-eyed, twitching like dogs eating peach seeds and wondering if they can do it again. ... Well, I think that game is over."
Simpson was wrong.
Once again, he had sorely underestimated the tenacity and cleverness of special-interest groups determined to preserve the flow of undocumented workers into the United States.
Yes, Congress eventually passed a new immigration law. But it was so weak it would do little to hasten the creation of a system to help employers quickly and reliably verify that the people working for them are in fact eligible to hold jobs in the United States. Such a system is a key to curbing illegal immigration, according to many experts.
The "twitching dogs" who dragged down Simpson's initiative last year are Capitol heavyweights whose coalition on immigration falls into the unlikely bedfellows category. Among them: the National Federation of Independent Business, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Rifle Association, the Catholic church, the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Bar Association and even some labor unions.
As these special interests swarmed all over Capitol Hill, however, no lobbyist represented millions of legal immigrants and other poor people, who, because of welfare reform, soon might need the low-skill jobs now being held by the rising number of undocumented workers.
Special-interest clout
The clout displayed last year when the immigration lobby defeated Simpson's plan is a textbook demonstration of how special interests have long dominated immigration policy in Washington.
Simpson wasn't asking for anything remotely like a national ID card or national database of workers. He merely wanted the Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to authorize pilot projects to test methods for verifying employment eligibility.
One pilot would have required participating employers to check their new employees' Social Security numbers. Because it would apply to all of their new workers, discrimination against "foreign-looking" job applicants would have been minimized.
But the anti-verification coalition painted the proposal as a sinister plot. It portrayed it as a retina-scan ID card, police-state power, the second coming of the Holocaust and even the fulfillment of a dark prophecy in the Bible's Book of Revelation that people would be stamped with the "mark of the beast."
At one meeting of the Judiciary Committee, an irritated and clearly frustrated Simpson indignantly waved a make-believe tattoo that looked like a grocery store bar code. He called it a ploy to kill his verification proposal. He was right.
Grover Norquist, a social conservative and anti-tax Republican lobbyist, reveled unapologetically in the tactics he used to undermine the verification initiative and to mock Simpson personally.
The peel-off bar-code tattoos were supposed to remind people of the way Nazis tattooed Jews during World War II.
"It was great," recalled Norquist, who is close to House Speaker Newt Gingrich. "We had our guys walking around with tattoos on their arms. It drove Simpson nuts because the implication was he's a Nazi."
The truth, however, is that both the House and the Senate bills specifically barred the implementation of any kind of national ID card. Politicians view such a card as a political kiss of death; nobody expects Congress to seriously consider one.
Toward the end of the debate, Simpson decried the pranks and slurs.
"We have dealt with tattoos and Adolf Hitler," he said. "It is the most offensive thing that I have ever heard. It's disgusting and I'm sick of it."
'Mark of the beast'
Although voters tend to see Republicans as tougher than Democrats on illegal immigration, the weakening of the verification provisions was largely the handiwork of conservative Republicans and their behind-the-scenes strategists like Norquist.
Their success underscores how tough it is for Congress to do the one thing experts have said for decades is central to curbing illegal immigration: Establish a reliable, non-discriminatory employment verification system.
Norquist has strong ties to the business community. Mainstream firms like Microsoft paid him to lobby against other provisions of the bill, such as tighter restrictions on the immigration of computer programmers.
But his forte is mobilizing support among social or moral conservatives, including gun owners (Note: Norquist now on board of NRA), the religious right, home-schooling adherents and others he described as "anti-welfare and anti-police state."
"A government powerful enough to find an illegal immigrant is also powerful enough to find your bank accounts," he said.
Conveniently, he ignores the fact that the government long has been able to find bank accounts with ease while it still can't reliably identify undocumented workers.
"Nobody really minds people sneaking across the border and working at 7-Eleven," he added.
At one point during the debate, congressional offices received calls from fundamentalist ministers around the country asking about rumors that the verification provision would fulfill a prophecy in the Book of Revelation. Was it true, they asked congressional staffers, that people would be stamped with the "mark of the beast" under the new law?
"Six-six-six," Norquist explained matter-of-factly during an interview. "That's always been one of the arguments against the ID card. There's something in Revelations about numbering people. The 'beast' could be a big computer."
The National Rifle Association was told the bill would lead to a federal computer registry that the government could use to hunt down its members and seize their guns.
"Gun owners quite correctly understand that it would take Bill Clinton all of two weeks to add the question, 'Got any guns? Could we have a list of them? Where do you keep them?' " said Norquist.
Verification opponents also circulated mock national identification cards bearing Simpson's likeness. On the back of the cards was a retina scan diagram suggesting that the legislation called for everyone to carry such a card.
"That was a good one," Norquist chuckled.
Anti-verification coalition Conservatives didn't fight verification alone last year. They were part of a coalition of strange bedfellows involved in civil rights, ethnic and religious advocacy, anti-government politics and free-market ideology. They were also bolstered by powerful business groups.
The coalition was a juggernaut that fought virtually any verification initiative. Because Republicans control Congress, conservative lobbyists were especially influential. The fact that some limited, voluntary verification projects stayed in the bill at all outraged some conservatives.
"I view it as the camel's nose under the tent for a national ID card," said Stephen Moore, an economist with the Cato Institute who lobbied against the bill. "The theme we played to Republicans was that if you're trying to roll back big government, you shouldn't be instituting this new police-state power."
Social conservatives like Norquist and libertarians like Moore don't see illegal immigration as a major problem.
"Illegal immigration is part of the price we pay for being both a prosperous and a free country, and I'm not willing to sacrifice some of our freedoms to try to keep out immigrants, especially when I don't think it's going to work very well," said Moore.
He added that spending $3 billion-plus a year to fund the Immigration and Naturalization Service "probably is a waste of money. But this is a political issue. And the way you deal with illegal immigration is you increase the INS budget. It doesn't do a lot, but at least politicians on both sides can go home and say, `Well, how can you say I'm not doing anything about immigration? I increased the INS budget.' "
What you don't do, he said, is involve employers in enforcement.
"Sometimes in politics you pass feel-good measures," Moore said. "And that's not necessarily a bad thing. Passing a bill that's mostly window dressing is a way of defusing public alarm about something. And in states like California, illegal immigration is perceived as a big problem."
The INS contends stronger border enforcement has served as a deterrent for illegal crossers and made once dangerous and chaotic border corridors safer and more calm.
But a better verification system is crucial, insists former Labor Secretary Reich.[snip]http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2006/01/llegal-immigration-bill-weakened-by.html
See post 26.
No doubt. It wouldn't be compassionate to deny them their chance at the American dream.
There must be at least a half billion people in the world who are worse off than Mexicans and Latin Americans and would love to come here. I think that's a low figure but it is almost twice our current population.
Interesting article.
However now the illegals have lobbyists all right (being facitious) marxists, communists, liberals, socialists groups all supporting them and their cause, however it's a cause that is getting more sinister every day.
When they threaten to bring our economy to it's knees they are messing with our country and one can only call terroism!
I posed the question what is the TRUE INTENT of so many invading this country? Each time the answer was to get jobs, MAYBE...but I kept feeling an uneasy feeling about it all, than came the demonstrations meant to intimidate.
And now their true intent was revealed, get all their demands or bring down our country. I faxed a bunch of Senators today with a transcript from the Lou Dobbs show.
They need to take all this seriously and NO AMNESTY! NO WELFARE for them and definitely NO FASTTRACK to CITIZENSHIP!!
This is not about workers rights or fair immigration policies. It has to do with international communist/socialist orgs looking to gain the political upperhand in the U.S..
Posted by JeffHead Jeff links to Mexica.org's 'after protest' pic fest. You can see there what the marchers thought they were marching for.
A poster for Fridays march. March 31. This poster lists the Latino orgs that are promoting the protests. They are all communist/socialist front orgs.
Here is my analysis of what is going on behind the scenes.
Here is some evidence that 'amnesty' increases illegal entries. These people knew before the demonstrations that the time was ripe.
Smith Act of 1940 This is the U.S. statute that ought to apply to the organized gathering of tens of thousands of foreign nationals calling for the overthrow of our country.
H.R. 4437 At this link you will find a good exegesis of the only bill that doesn't offer some type of amnesty/pathway to citizenship/excuses for illegal entry. It is harsh on employers but has reasonable protections for employers who verify documents that are later shown to be false. It explains that the databases necessary are already in place. It provides for border security.
Understand that the provision that the protesters say is 'racist,' that makes illegals felons, was inserted by the Dems a short time ago. That clarifies why Hillary happened to discover the immigration issue a week before the marches. Why she demonized Republicans as "making Jesus a criminal."
Keep in mind just who organized these protests. Who provided the tens of thousands of T-shirts, the thousands of professionally made signs, the hours and hours of promotion on Spanish language radio and TV stations. It has been noticed that Islamic orgs names and logos appear on some of these signs as well. Remember that NEA teachers and administrators are the ones who have assisted the march organizers by providing bussing for their students, hoisting Mexican flags at school and overlooking the truancy.
Don't forget that the last two Presidential elections were nearly 50/50. Think about how our Congress is looking for a way to appease these foreign nationals through legislation. No election necessary. The outcome of legalizing 11 million illegals and encouraging more to come will be a solid lock for the left forevermore in national elections. We dont need an immigration bill. We need and want a border security and illegal aliens bill. An immigration/guest worker bill can come after that is done.
Mexico is Rich- Mexican wealthy play American taxpayers for suckers
Good thread for any that missed it. It should really make you mad.
Every dollar spent in U.S. taxes for social services for illegal aliens frees up additional cash to be sent south as part of the annual remittances which provided $20 billion in 2005. According to the CNN news show Lou Dobbs Tonight (3/21/05), "Remittances, as they're called, are expected to become Mexico's primary source of income this year, surpassing the amount of money that Mexico makes on oil exports for the first time ever."
Mayans in Chiapas Region Convert to Islam
The bill that was just defeated in the Senate was an amnesty, plain and simple. But take a look at what these treasonous scumbags tried to hide in it. They will be back and we can expect more of this if we do not act decisively.
Hidden Bombs (Extremely Important Article on Immigration)
The second nasty surprise? Just before the committee approved the bill on the evening of March 27, Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) offered the "DREAM Act" as an amendment. It passed on a voice vote.The DREAM Act is a nightmare. It repeals a 1996 law that prohibits state universities from offering in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens. The principle, of course, is that no illegal alien should be entitled to receive a taxpayer-subsidized benefit that out-of-state U.S. citizens can't get. But the committee's bill allows illegals to be treated better than those U.S. citizens on tuition.
OMG! I did not know the dream act, farce of a bill passed already!
Great now the socialist get to attend our colleges and we pay for it...DA*N!!
Thank you! If these provisions were properly enforced there is little doubt that we would not have the issue today.
Throw the rascals out! Let us demand government accountability, not more funding or unfunded mandates. Focus on reducing spending, shrinking government, and protecting liberties. Good old fashioned conservative values.
Ping to a heck of a good historical perspective from the 1996 immigration reform.
As far as I know it didn't pass. It is an amendment to the McCain/Kennedy "immigration" bill.
oh
than lets hope the
Dream Act
will NOT pass
NO to amnesty, NO to the dream act, NO to fasttrack Citizenship.
The United States of America
will henceforth be known as ...
BUSHMART
... where the doors are never closed and the shoppers are never hosed.
"Welcome to Bushmart, senor. Would you like a cart?"
Another way would be to take the "American Dream" to their country. How? Take The American entreprenuer to these "backward" countries. Give the American investment oportunities in Africa and watch the continent bloom! American Global Capitalism will do the trick.
I've always like Grover Norquist. He's been an able defender of taxpayers ... but then I heard about his disturbing Muslim connections, and now an article on how he revelled in doing the open-borders lobby's bidding to gut the 1996 bill.
Today is the day I stopped liking Norquist.
" OMG! I did not know the dream act, farce of a bill passed already! "
It passed the committee ... Still, a terrible sign that bad policy is too popular on Capitol Hill.
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