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Illegal aliens didn't build U.S.
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | March 29, 2006 | Jack Markowitz

Posted on 04/01/2006 6:57:01 AM PST by Supernatural

It's a new chapter in the Promised Land. We are becoming The Land That Better Keep Its Promises - or Else. Even promises that never were made.

A half-million illegal aliens and friends and sympathizers have taken to the streets of late, demanding unhampered residency and employment. Their anger is being whipped up against an America that would fence its borders against more coming over, and require proper payroll-keeping and taxpaying from employers who hire them outside the law.

Why? In part because a new myth is gaining currency. It is that illegal immigrants, mostly of Mexican or other Hispanic origin, "built this country." Without them the economy would collapse.

"We are the motor of this nation!" a speaker harangued the 500,000 who marched in Los Angeles on Saturday. "We construct your schools! We cook your food!" Other thousands marched to this beat of indispensability in Phoenix, Denver and Milwaukee.

That people who entered the United States by stealth feel entitled to tie up U.S. downtowns with their grievances is nervy in the first place. But their slant on U.S. history is off the wall. No better clue might be needed that kids should be taught in English, fast!

It was religious freedom-seekers from England who began building this country, followed by natives of every part of Europe, Asia and Africa. And their descendants keep right on building it as e pluribus unum Americans -- "out of the many, one." Don't expect them to honor some dubious economic necessity to let everybody in.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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To: Final Authority

The only "great" Mexican I ever heard of is Pancho Villa and he was a thief.


41 posted on 04/01/2006 7:37:07 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Supernatural
Any illegal who claims he built this country took pay to build what they built. It was much more than they would have received for the same work in Mexico. Yes, stop working. See if we care. Stay home from school. Then you can go on welfare and prove the point that you are a drag on our economy, but as the article says, we will fill those jobs that are necessary. Sure, costs will rise. That's life. It's happened before. But the people who have those jobs will spend their salaries in the US, not send it to Mexico. If a job can't be filled, it either is not important enough or it can be filled by someone who legally enters the country.

Please, go home. Use your energy to throw out the bums ruining your Mexican government. Fix up your own country so people will want to go there to work rather than here. Why is your country such a mess? You think taking over a corner of ours will make it better? No, it will become an extension of your disfunctional Mexico. The disease will spread. You will just become Mexicans again living in that same old rotten Mexico, just farther north. Maybe in a hundred years there will be enough of you to take over the whole country. Do you think this will somehow make your culture better? No, it will just be a larger Mexico, probably worse than the old one.

No, your problem is not the US. It is you attitude. The greatness of our country does not come from where the land is as much as who occupies it. Replacing us with you will make the American culture disappear.

You seem to think that something was stolen from you. Well, guess what? Most of the people who came here did so because something was stolen from them. The Irish because of the British, the eastern Euros because of the communists, and soon, the rest of Europe because of the Muzzles. Read your own history. You took over from those who were there before you. Many of you are descendants of the Spanish who came over. Should all with Spanish blood be kicked out? The Spanish were ruthless with those who lived there before, you you should have to leave.

And how do you think those poor folks in South American ended up living on the tops of mountains, trying to grow food on rock? Some of your forebears drove them there so they could get the better land. Do you think they said, "This place is too nice. There is land, water, and animals. It is a place where we can survive. No, let's climb to the tops of those mountains and see if we can be up to the challenge." No, your great-great-great-grand parents chased them there. You should get out and let them come down from the mountains and take back their land.

So, illegals of North America, you are here illegally. Look the word up. Go back to your country and find out what it means. Find out if your country has immigration laws. Go to a library and borrow some time on a computer paid for by us. Go here

http://www.mexperience.com/liveandwork/immigration.htm

and read a bit if you can read English. Read some of the the last few paragraphs, especially:

Immigrant, Active: - i.e. you do want to acquire permanent residency in Mexico AND work there: You will need to satisfy the requirements for entry (e.g. professional, sponsored by a company, etc), or be able and prepared to invest at least 40,000 times the minimum daily wage in Mexico City.

That seems fair enough. Now we are going to require the same from you. What, you say? Not fair? Right, your country is not fair. So don't tell us we are not fair. Clean up your own house.

So, would you have any problem if we applied YOUR laws to YOU? Your country generally only wants wealthy immigrants who will not be a drag on the Mexican economy. So, either be happy where you are or go somewhere else. Emmigrate.

42 posted on 04/01/2006 7:37:31 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Supernatural
You are the one spouting DU talking points, old-timer!

THIS is a CONSERVATIVE web site.

And where were you during the Clinton impeachment.

Oh I forgot, Clinton is ok by you.

Have your blue dress on while typing?

43 posted on 04/01/2006 7:39:03 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Supernatural

I was watching a program this morning on the History channel about Henry Ford. As part of addressing the problems he was having with retaining employees he provided several significant incentives. He more than doubled the average wage and he shortened the work day to 8 hours. But - in order to take advantage of these incentives the employees had to essentially agree to numerous things. They had to buy a home locally, keep it clean, open bank accounts, learn English and more. In addition they participated in an 'event' where they each, one-by-one, stepped into a large 'melting pot' wearing their traditional cultural garb (from whence they came). Once in the pot they changed into a nice suit and hat or a nice dress as appropriate and then climbed out of the pot waving an American flag.

*sigh*


45 posted on 04/01/2006 7:40:11 AM PST by Frapster (Don't mind me - I'm distracted by the pretty lights.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
We have been invaded and our duly elected representatives who have sworn to protect us and our country have let it happen without, for the most part, raising a whimper.

They have aided and abetted the illegal invasion.
46 posted on 04/01/2006 7:40:27 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Dane
Actually, apples from New Zealand and oranges from Australia are sometimes cheaper here than domestic produce.
How many people immigrate to those countries from Mexico-Latin America?
47 posted on 04/01/2006 7:41:11 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Bawana Jim
So you don't know how to answer a question?

Actually, you don't know how to answer your own AFL-CIO/DNC talking points.

48 posted on 04/01/2006 7:41:36 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: All

Ignore the DU troll called "Dane".

Do not respond to his posts.


49 posted on 04/01/2006 7:41:42 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Supernatural

Thanks for posting this.


50 posted on 04/01/2006 7:41:59 AM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: mrsmith
Business is hiding its true cost by hiring illegal aliens. In economics, this is referred to as an externality. It's false economy because taxpayers end up carrying the hidden burden through various taxes and cost increases that are at least one step removed from the original transaction. And it is a HUGE cost.

Greedy, dishonest cost-shifting employers who have been getting wealthy off these hidden, illegal subsidies while they encourage the flouting of our laws need to be rounded up, arrested, and sent to jail.

Not all of us are stupid the dishonest employers and illegal-alien supporting politicians think we are.

51 posted on 04/01/2006 7:42:16 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Frapster

I saw that show about Henry Ford.

He knew how to make real Americans out of people.

*sigh*


52 posted on 04/01/2006 7:43:19 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: investigateworld
Actually, apples from New Zealand and oranges from Australia are sometimes cheaper here than domestic produce. How many people immigrate to those countries from Mexico-Latin America?

LOL! This is great, "true conservatives" on FR promoting the "outsourcing" of food.

keep on posting IW.

53 posted on 04/01/2006 7:44:01 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dr. Thorne
If illegal alien construction workers (at jobs Americans don't want) work for so little (to our benefit) why did the cost of housing in CA recently hit an all-time high?
54 posted on 04/01/2006 7:44:09 AM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Dane; Supernatural; JCEccles; Bawana Jim; cripplecreek
So, Dane, what's in it for you that you are so supportive of illegal immigration and illegals? There are plenty of migrant workers who pick produce (named Jose, I'm sure) who are here legally.

Your argument about So that orange you buy from the supermarket is also "illegal" is just plain stupid and makes no sense.

I find it rather strange that you're accusing others of being DUers just because they disagree with you. If you don't like that others are expressing their opinions , as you also have a right to do on FR, then you don't have to participate. Personal attacks violate the posting guidleines.

55 posted on 04/01/2006 7:44:09 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dubya

I'm happy to have posted it.

With all the threads about illegals lately, I was wondering if this thread would get any responses. LOL!


56 posted on 04/01/2006 7:44:17 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Supernatural
Illegal aliens didn't build U.S.

This is true, but it's also a little misleading. The U.S. wasn't built by illegal aliens simply because this country hardly had any immigration laws at all until the 1920s -- after the lower 48 states had all been admitted into the Union.

57 posted on 04/01/2006 7:45:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: metmom

Dane is one big personal attack.

I don't know how he and his ilk are tolerated here at FR.


58 posted on 04/01/2006 7:45:28 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Supernatural
I saw that show about Henry Ford.

He knew how to make real Americans out of people.

And he stopped the union movement in the 30's, which turned against him.

You trolls are so transparent.

59 posted on 04/01/2006 7:45:54 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Supernatural
The middle class of this country is being destroyed.

That's the agenda.

60 posted on 04/01/2006 7:45:59 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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