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Conservatives condemn waving Mexican flag
UPI ^ | April 1

Posted on 04/01/2006 11:10:55 AM PST by MRMEAN

WASHINGTON, April 1 (UPI) -- Waving the Mexican flag at pro-immigration demonstrations in the United States has riled conservative commentators and lawmakers, a report said.

U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., said he has appeared on a dozen radio shows in the past week to talk about the "huge and growing problem" of illegal U.S. immigrants, The Washington Times reported.

U.S. Rep. Virgil Goode Jr., R-Va., also was outraged.

"I say if you are here illegally and are displaying and waving the Mexican flag, you should go back to Mexico and fly that flag there," Goode said.

Talkers Magazine Editor and Publisher Michael Harrison said immigration is the current No. 1 talk-radio issue.

"Many of the conservative hosts are against the waving of the Mexican flag (at rallies) and seeing such Mexican nationalism expressed in the United States," Harrison told The Times.

While it was reported that demonstrators waved only Mexican flags, Alvaro Huerta of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles said many also waved U.S. flags.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; immigration; indenturedservitude; mexicanflags; outsourcethesenate; rinos; scamnesty; soros; tancredo; virgilgoode; wageslavery

1 posted on 04/01/2006 11:10:55 AM PST by MRMEAN
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To: MRMEAN

I suspect that seeing the American flag demeaned angers a far broader spectrum of Americans than just conservatives.


2 posted on 04/01/2006 11:14:09 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: MRMEAN
While it was reported that demonstrators waved only Mexican flags, Alvaro Huerta of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles said many also waved U.S. flags.

He's got a point there.......sort of.


3 posted on 04/01/2006 11:20:35 AM PST by Polybius
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To: MRMEAN
Are "conservatives" the only ones who condemn this?

What the heck is wrong with the liberals and so-called 'moderates'?
4 posted on 04/01/2006 11:22:37 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Polybius
...many also waved U.S. flags.

and they got hammered for it
5 posted on 04/01/2006 11:23:25 AM PST by stylin19a (I never put my foot in my mouth...I shoot that sucker off long before it gets anywhere near my mouth)
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To: MRMEAN
This UPI reporter writes like "conservatives" are from some distant land and the reporter can't figure out their strange customs.

I guess the reporter must be "objective", eh?

:-(
6 posted on 04/01/2006 11:24:46 AM PST by cgbg (When you hear the words "gender" or "stakeholder" run for your life!)
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To: MRMEAN

There's way too much focus on all sides with hispanic-latino and hybrids etcetera.

All on American soil must ultimately be subject to being identify-able.

There are plenty of slicksters who go home after their visa runs out, then come right back in a week's time to rob us.


7 posted on 04/01/2006 11:25:37 AM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out)
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To: MRMEAN

Waving the Mexican flag didn't bother me near as much as knowing the GOP Congress might be on the verge of granting a backdoor guest worker-amnesty to 15 million illegals. This is a liberal social policy that Bush has been promoting for the last five years. With the help of Kennedy, McCain, Spector, Graham and others, it just might happen. Its a policy which is in direct opposition to mainstream conservatism and traditional American values.


8 posted on 04/01/2006 11:32:36 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: BenLurkin
Are "conservatives" the only ones who condemn this? What the heck is wrong with the liberals and so-called 'moderates'?

No, the media has just decided that everyone who is offended by it has just become a conservative.

9 posted on 04/01/2006 11:33:14 AM PST by DejaJude (Admiral Clark said, "Our mantra today is life, liberty and the pursuit of those who threaten it!")
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To: Reagan Man
Tony Blankley has a better argument )(March 29th)

Regarding the Senate's and the president's guest-worker proposals, The Post's Robert Samuelson writes: "Gosh, they're all bad ideas ... We'd be importing poverty. This isn't because these immigrants aren't hardworking, many are. Nor is it because they don't assimilate, many do. But they generally don't go home, assimilation is slow and the ranks of the poor are constantly replenished ... [It] is a conscious policy of creating poverty in the United States while relieving it in Mexico ... The most lunatic notion is that admitting more poor Latino workers would ease the labor market strains of retiring baby boomers ?

Far from softening the social problems of an aging society, more poor immigrants might aggravate them by pitting older retirees against younger Hispanics for limited government benefits ... [Moreover], [i]t's a myth that the U.S. economy 'needs' more poor immigrants. "The illegal immigrants already here represent only about 4.9 percent of the labor force." (For all Mr. Samuelson's supporting statistics, see his Washington Post column of March 22, from which this is taken.)

Likewise, a few days later, the very liberal and often partisan Paul Krugman of the New York Times courageously wrote : "Unfortunately, low-skill immigrants don't pay enough taxes to cover the cost of the [government] benefits they receive ? As the Swiss writer Max Frisch wrote about his own country's experience with immigration, 'We wanted a labor force, but human beings came.' " Mr. Krugman also observed — citing a leading Harvard study — "that U.S. high school dropouts would earn as much as 8 percent more if it weren't for Mexican immigration. That's why it's intellectually dishonest to say, as President Bush does, that immigrants 'do jobs that Americans will not do.' The willingness of Americans to do a job depends on how much that job pays — and the reason some jobs pay too little to attract native-born Americans is competition from poorly paid immigrants."

Thusly do the two leading economic writers for the nation's two leading liberal newspapers summarily debunk the economic underpinning of the president's and the Senate's immigration proposals.

10 posted on 04/01/2006 11:36:50 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: DejaJude; jackbenimble

I hope they DO keep waving the Mexican flag. Every time they do, hundreds more people wake up and realize they don't want them here.


11 posted on 04/01/2006 11:39:52 AM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: MRMEAN

You bet I do not want aNOTHER flag flying over the flag my relatives to defend . They want to fly their flags , go back and work in your won countries, I fly mine with pride in mine.


12 posted on 04/01/2006 11:44:43 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: BenLurkin
What the heck is wrong with the liberals and so-called 'moderates'?

From what I've seen, they're keeping their pieholes shut. The defenders of the Noble Savages know they've overplayed their hand and the gig is up. We're not talking about immigration for votes or cheap labor anymore, it's all about "Reconquista", and the events of the past two weeks have brought that home in living color. It's an invasion now, and these people mean to turn a portion of the US (if not all) back into the third world country they came from. No US citizen, liberals included, want that--it's suicide, nationally and politically.

13 posted on 04/01/2006 11:52:23 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: MRMEAN

Not only can should we deport the illegals who were at these rallies first, any legal citizen who waves the Mexican flag at one of these should be understood to have voluntarily relinquished their citizenship.


14 posted on 04/01/2006 12:09:22 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: RobbyS

Importing poverty and welfare recipients, and we taxpayers pay the price for it.

4-15 is just 14 days away. Send a thanks to the govt for importing poverty along wth your check. Oh and enclose a picture of the AMERICAN FLAG.


15 posted on 04/01/2006 12:15:34 PM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: RobbyS

In addition IRS agents should be at those protests and collect backtaxes from all the good for nothings.
We could probably pay off the national debt collecting all backtaxes from them.


16 posted on 04/01/2006 12:17:43 PM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: Polybius

How dare they hang "OUR" American flag upside down!!

No Amnesty!
No guest worker program!
National Guard on the border -- NOW!

Come here legally.
Learn English.
Become an American.
We'll welcome you!

Until then "NO DEAL"


17 posted on 04/01/2006 12:21:32 PM PST by dcnd9
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To: Mom MD
Absolutely.

We're all in favor of waiving the Mexican flag: In Mexico. Anyone who is waiving the Mexican flag here is demonstrably not interested in the American dream.

18 posted on 04/01/2006 12:25:27 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: MRMEAN

Should we be afraid of or annoyed by people who wave the Canadian, Italian, or Irish flags on US soil? No. As for the people out there who truly believe that Mexico can and will take the southwest away from the U.S., black people deserve reparations for slavery, etc., they're nuts. Plenty of people of Mexican/central/south american anscestry are in that part of the country now, that's life, and it's arguably been the case for centuries. If you want to see what what Balkanization of the U.S. would really be like, look to the Canadian government's approach to Quebec, the reservation system here, autonomy for Hawaiian natives, and increasingly draconian laws designed to cut us off as much as possible from Mexico.


19 posted on 04/01/2006 12:28:58 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: DejaJude

"No, the media has just decided that everyone who is offended by it has just become a conservative."

And there we have the commentary of the day. Spot on.


20 posted on 04/01/2006 12:30:44 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: dcnd9

Actually, I think flying the flag upside down is about right. Our country is in crisis mode as this amnesty program goes through.


21 posted on 04/01/2006 12:32:29 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: MRMEAN

The point was the mexican flag was waive as a point of rebelion or outright revolution. An anti-american symbol.

This was not about waiving both flags side by side, this was about promoting illegal behavior and pissing on the law of the USA.


22 posted on 04/01/2006 12:37:22 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: jackbenimble

Wish you were right. Alas, there's no guarantee of that with the Democrats.


23 posted on 04/01/2006 12:41:29 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: MRMEAN

You don't have to be wearing a uniform.Waving the flag of a foreign power on our soil is in fact an invading army!


24 posted on 04/01/2006 12:48:10 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: MRMEAN
If you want to be an American then shouldn't you be waving an American Flag. IMHO: A large percentage of these Mexican Flag Wavers are Amerikan Kids.
25 posted on 04/01/2006 1:50:41 PM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: MRMEAN

I know quite a few liberals that aren't overjoyed at the Mexican Flang waving or being inundated with illegals.


26 posted on 04/01/2006 9:31:38 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: RobbyS





27 posted on 04/01/2006 11:47:04 PM PST by devolve ( upload to free imagehosts Photobucket & Imagecave)
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To: jackbenimble

suspect that seeing the American flag demeaned angers a far broader spectrum of Americans than just conservatives.




my first thought...but then again...i'm not sure anymore...most are more concerned about NASCAR, Final Four, Desperate Housewives...etc....


28 posted on 04/01/2006 11:50:06 PM PST by teldon30 (Far right, elitist, sexist, cynical religious bigot and looter)
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To: RobbyS
That's why it's intellectually dishonest to say, as President Bush does, that immigrants 'do jobs that Americans will not do.'

Bush Jr. stammers this nonsense at every opportunity.

- and with his fellow immigration-leftists in the media beating the same drum, this lie is getting "repeated until true".

29 posted on 04/01/2006 11:59:27 PM PST by dagnabbit (George Bush is so fed up with illegals, he's making them to fill out the citizenship long form.)
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To: dagnabbit

I do know that some building contractors treat anglos who apply for job like dirt, that is to say like coolies--or Mexicans. One tale I heard was that he and several hispanics, only one who spoke English, was dropped off at a site in a new housing complex with just a jug of water and had to work in the broiling sun until he was picked up. The contractor not only cut him no slack, but was especially hard on his work, and made it clear wanted him gone. Part of the problem he had with the contractor was that he brought up the sometime shoddy work done by some newly hired Mexicans. He finish the house, but was not rehired. He solved his problem by becoming a suncontractor and managed to do quite well by hiring mainly Anglos and only those Hispanics who spoke English.


30 posted on 04/02/2006 8:03:28 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: longtermmemmory; Mad_as_heck

waive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wv)
tr.v. waived, waiv·ing, waives
To give up (a claim or right) voluntarily; relinquish. See Synonyms at relinquish.
To refrain from insisting on or enforcing (a rule or penalty, for example); dispense with: “The original ban on private trading had long since been waived” (William L. Schurz).
To put aside or off temporarily; defer.


wave ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wv)
v. waved, wav·ing, waves
v. intr.
To move freely back and forth or up and down in the air, as branches in the wind.
To make a signal with an up-and-down or back-and-forth movement of the hand or an object held in the hand: waved as she drove by.
To have an undulating or wavy form; curve or curl: Her hair waves naturally.


31 posted on 04/02/2006 8:27:28 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: MRMEAN
I don't have a problem with the Mexican flag being waved.

In Mexico.

32 posted on 04/02/2006 8:29:31 AM PDT by Allegra (No mosques were entered or damaged during this post.)
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To: Mike Darancette

These people will never assimilate.


The battle between Mexican Americans and illegals who think America is
their land isn't going to end soon.

33 posted on 04/02/2006 9:35:47 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: B4Ranch
The battle between Mexican Americans and illegals who think America is their land isn't going to end soon.

Make a guess which girl belongs in our country. Can't you just feel the love?

34 posted on 04/02/2006 10:29:51 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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