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Jill Carroll: I was forced to say things on video

Posted on 04/01/2006 1:02:53 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom

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1 posted on 04/01/2006 1:02:55 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

Did she take off the muslim rags from her head yet?


2 posted on 04/01/2006 1:03:29 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Kozak

yes, she was forced to say everything, including everything in her tv interview condemning the US and Bush.


3 posted on 04/01/2006 1:04:33 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: Kozak

Once in Germany she took off the doo rag


4 posted on 04/01/2006 1:04:36 PM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

posted April 1, 2006

Jill Carroll Statement
RAMSTEIN AIRBASE, GERMANY — I'm so happy to be free and am looking forward to spending a lot of time with my family. I want to express my deep appreciation to all the people who worked so long and hard for my release. I am humbled by the sympathy and support expressed by so many people during my kidnapping.

In the past few days, the US military and officials have been extremely generous, and I am grateful for their help. Throughout this ordeal, many US agencies have committed themselves to bringing me safely home.

My colleagues at The Christian Science Monitor have worked ceaselessly to secure my release, and worked with security consultants to do so. Many other news organizations, both inside and outside of Iraq, as well as many officials from Iraq and other countries, worked hard to bring about my freedom.

So many people around the world spoke out on my behalf.

Thank you, all of you.

During my last night in captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me they would let me go if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and wanted to go home alive. I agreed.

Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not. The people who kidnapped me and murdered Alan Enwiya are criminals, at best. They robbed Alan of his life and devastated his family. They put me, my family and my friends--and all those around the world, who have prayed so fervently for my release--through a horrific experience. I was, and remain, deeply angry with the people who did this.

I also gave a TV interview to the Iraqi Islamic Party shortly after my release. The party had promised me the interview would never be aired on television, and broke their word. At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times.

Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: That I refused to travel and cooperate with the US military and that I refused to discuss my captivity with US officials. Again, neither is true.

I want to be judged as a journalist, not as a hostage. I remain as committed as ever to fairness and accuracy--to discovering the truth--and so I will not engage in polemics. But let me be clear: I abhor all who kidnap and murder civilians, and my captors are clearly guilty of both crimes.

Now, I ask for the time to heal. This has been a taxing 12 weeks for me and my family. Please allow us some quiet time alone, together.

Richard Bergenheim statement

The Monitor wants to add its gratitude to everyone who is helping Jill return home. In addition we want to thank again all those in the Iraqi press who have been tireless in their campaign for Jill's release; we wish to thank the politicians, sheiks, and clerics in Iraq, Jordan, Egypt and other countries who have spoken out as well. And we need to thank all the citizens of Iraq, regular people like you and me, who continue to speak out strongly as well. We are in debt to too many people to thank them all. Jill will be home soon. As she writes, it is a time for healing. Let the healing begin.




http://www.csmonitor.com/earlyed/early_world040106.htm


5 posted on 04/01/2006 1:05:04 PM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief

Okay, she apologized. Now she should stay out of the Middle East.


6 posted on 04/01/2006 1:06:49 PM PST by hershey
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To: Kozak
As soon as she got some Western clothes she put them on.

Why is it you are so impatient for this rather plain looking woman to strip?

7 posted on 04/01/2006 1:06:58 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
yes, she was forced to say everything, including everything in her tv interview condemning the US and Bush.

Wasn't that made while she was captive?

8 posted on 04/01/2006 1:07:07 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Kozak


U.S. journalist Jill Carroll at the U.S. Airbase in Ramstein,
southwestern Germany, Saturday. (AP/Michael Probst)

9 posted on 04/01/2006 1:07:37 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

no, this was a post-kidnapping interview, but she still continued to say the same things until she left Iraq.


10 posted on 04/01/2006 1:08:28 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: hershey

"I want to be judged as a journalist, not as a hostage. I remain as committed as ever to fairness and accuracy--to discovering the truth--and so I will not engage in polemics. But let me be clear: I abhor all who kidnap and murder civilians, and my captors are clearly guilty of both crimes."


This quote puzzles me.


11 posted on 04/01/2006 1:08:59 PM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief

Not good enough.

SILL waiting to see HER say all this. NOT some spokesman.


12 posted on 04/01/2006 1:09:47 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: maggief
Well. Sure sounded fishy at first, but I'm glad to see she's retracted the LIES told about Americans in Iraq.

Amazingly, the LAMESTREAM PRESS never points out the incredibly SIMILARITIES between the rhetoric of the ISLAMO-FACIST TERRORISTS and the DEMOCRAT PARTY SUPPORTERS here in America.

13 posted on 04/01/2006 1:10:31 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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You know what happned? The dad had a long talk with Jill on the phone and told her to pipe down.


14 posted on 04/01/2006 1:10:55 PM PST by KavMan
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

Who wants to bet the 'rats at DU will say Bush forced her to make this statement?


15 posted on 04/01/2006 1:11:18 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: muawiyah

There was no reason for her to be wearing the hijab when she got out of custody. The rest of the clothes are perfectly understandable.


16 posted on 04/01/2006 1:13:06 PM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

Uhm, does she know she wrote this statement?


17 posted on 04/01/2006 1:13:06 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: hershey; maggief

I'm waiting for a few apologies from many who were quick to condemn her before she even made it to free soil.


18 posted on 04/01/2006 1:13:36 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

She went over there with an agenda so why would anyone think her agenda changed before, during or after the ordeal?


19 posted on 04/01/2006 1:14:41 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Kozak

Careful, ghetto girls will say you're a bigot. (sarcasm)


20 posted on 04/01/2006 1:15:42 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Who cares. She came home with her head attached to her body.

Daniel Pearl and Daniel Berg had a different outcome.

I begrudge the girl nothing. She is/was a naive useful idiot. Hopefully, she is now wiser.

21 posted on 04/01/2006 1:15:42 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: maggief
I want to be judged as a journalist, not as a hostage.

Just dont ask me to judge you as an American..

22 posted on 04/01/2006 1:15:59 PM PST by cardinal4 (David Gregory-the John Kerry of the Media Elite)
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To: Larry Lucido

Keep waiting. I still have my suspicions.


23 posted on 04/01/2006 1:16:43 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Mobile Vulgus
SILL waiting to see HER say all this. NOT some spokesman.

Fair enough. Until then, best to withhold (or at least qualify) all speculation.

24 posted on 04/01/2006 1:16:45 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
What I'm getting from this is that she's still anti-war and anti-military, but has had enough of a reality-check to feel and express gratitude toward everyone who worked for her release, even the military. Maybe a liberal who just took her first step toward becoming a conservative.

I think the US govt should start making it clear that in future no soliders' lives will be risked to rescue civilians who insert themselves into a war zone. The only exceptions would be those who are working in contractor or govt jobs supporting the military effort.

25 posted on 04/01/2006 1:16:48 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I'll apologize. I must admit I followed her case rather closely and was shocked to hear her interview in the Party's headquarters but the Arab garb.

Perhaps she was still under duress. She will tell us the whole story eventually.


26 posted on 04/01/2006 1:17:04 PM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

something tells me they didnt have to force her too hard


27 posted on 04/01/2006 1:17:28 PM PST by skaterboy
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To: radioproducer

Seems you were right and I was wrong


28 posted on 04/01/2006 1:17:58 PM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: hole_n_one

Is it just me, or does it look like she had time to stop at a salon in Baghdad and get some red highlights for herself?


29 posted on 04/01/2006 1:19:44 PM PST by oldleft
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To: maggief
"Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not. The people who kidnapped me and murdered Alan Enwiya are criminals, at best. They robbed Alan of his life and devastated his family. They put me, my family and my friends--and all those around the world, who have prayed so fervently for my release--through a horrific experience. I was, and remain, deeply angry with the people who did this."

Thank you, Jill. Now please put on a wet t-shirt to erase the months-long vision of you in a burka.

30 posted on 04/01/2006 1:20:16 PM PST by montag813
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

...well I dunno..she might have actually been under the gun when she said those things...at the Air Force Academy they tought us in POW training to say such if it meant the difference between life and death...I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt for the moment


31 posted on 04/01/2006 1:20:39 PM PST by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: OldFriend

I feel the same, I don't think most posting here understands exactly what she's been thru.


32 posted on 04/01/2006 1:21:15 PM PST by NTW64
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To: oldleft

She put on 30 lbs. while she was a captive, too.


33 posted on 04/01/2006 1:21:53 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Recovering_Democrat

DU is Dhimmicrat Underclass,right?...heh


34 posted on 04/01/2006 1:22:28 PM PST by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: txroadhawg
Excellent. I thought I saw her wearing the rags in Germany. that would have raised my concern about her statements. Glad to see she is not a sympathizer.
35 posted on 04/01/2006 1:23:09 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Larry Lucido

Oh yeah, sure, hypocrite. Damn if we appologize, damn if we are dupes. It's the old pharisean evil game of point scoring and ignoring the truth.

Journalists never appologize, have no possible neutrality in this war on terrorism yet pretend they do, but we should appologize?

I'll appologize to myself first for being a dupe of Jill and the media still, despite my suspicions.

It's fair to say that being in the dark as to their shenanigans would be a nice way to trap either way we go, trusting or distrusting. It's the convenience of media cover ups, laundering priviledges and demands of devaluing others by asking them to appologize.


36 posted on 04/01/2006 1:24:26 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: montag813
"I was, and remain, deeply angry with the people who did this."

Dead giveaway of a sentence (among others) written not by her but for her or dictated to her. Heck, but if you can fake sincerity you have it made!

37 posted on 04/01/2006 1:24:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: OldFriend
I begrudge the girl nothing. She is/was a naive useful idiot. Hopefully, she is now wiser.M

That's my take as well.

38 posted on 04/01/2006 1:24:33 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: muawiyah
Why is it you are so impatient for this rather plain looking woman to strip?

I didn't "want her to strip". I wanted her to demonstrate she had not gone over to the enemy. I am happy to see this is not the case.
39 posted on 04/01/2006 1:24:35 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: OldFriend

AMEN to that.

And, her statement thanks the US Military, which is more than we can say for the those rescued hostages from a couple weeks ago.

I hope she is a little more skeptical now about the claims of the other side.


40 posted on 04/01/2006 1:24:51 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: AmishDude
Sure there's a reason ~ apparantly you've never been a woman in the Middle East.

Those pictures were taken when she was still in the presence of Arab men who are the officers (and enforcers) in a political party which is compatible with her captors.

Her best course of action was to not pi$$ any of these cockroaches off.

41 posted on 04/01/2006 1:25:20 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Armigerous

What bothers me is, what she said in the interviews is not that different from what she said in her articles and columns. No one was holding a gun to her head then, were they?


42 posted on 04/01/2006 1:25:48 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: NTW64
With her life at risk for 3 months and all the mental torture I hope she seeks some help.
43 posted on 04/01/2006 1:26:14 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Hey, she's a professional writer ~ like many of us on FR.

Even our most casual conversations are weighed and trimmed before being tossed out into the wallow.

44 posted on 04/01/2006 1:26:39 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

As I understand she had American protection at the time. The notion that there were Arab men in the room shows entirely too much deference for someone who was imprisoned.


45 posted on 04/01/2006 1:27:14 PM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: American Quilter
At the moment American, British and Iraqi soldiers are undertaking major efforts to destroy a large kidnapping ring in Baghdad.

They are putting a stop to all of this.

46 posted on 04/01/2006 1:28:36 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: maggief
I'm satisfied, I wish her quick healing and lots of luck.
47 posted on 04/01/2006 1:28:59 PM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Kozak

But you still want to get her clothes off ~ you ol'debilman you!


48 posted on 04/01/2006 1:30:32 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

No, just that rag on her head.


49 posted on 04/01/2006 1:31:08 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; StopDemocratsDotCom

Now we will find out if she was an innocent victim or if this was a stunt set up with her friend, Natasha Tynes.


50 posted on 04/01/2006 1:31:11 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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