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Townsend gets 30 days in jail
Orlando Sentinel ^
| March 29, 2006
| Amy C. Rippel
Posted on 04/01/2006 3:16:30 PM PST by andyk
Ashley Townsend, a college student who ran a red light in 2004 and killed two girls as they crossed the street with their mother, has pleaded guilty to vehicular homicide and was booked into the Orange County Jail One of her attorneys, Bill Barnett, would not comment.Tuesday evening, records show. Court records show the 23-year-old woman was booked into jail about 6 p.m. Tuesday and the Florida Highway Patrol was the arresting agency.
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She was ordered to serve 30 days in the Orange County Jail without the chance of work release. After she is released from jail, she will then be on seven years' supervised probation with the Department of Corrections, which can be transferred to Leon County. She also must serve 500 hours of community service, completing 10 hours per month by speaking to young drivers about safe driving. Her drivers license was revoked for three years Witnesses and authorities said Townsend ran a red light at Goldenrod and Bates roads and struck Anjelica Velez, 5, and Victoria Velez, 2, while they were crossing the street with their mother on Oct. 27, 2004.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: ashleytownsend; townsend
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If someone is going to tell me that this is a duplicate, they'd better post a link to the existing thread with the exact same title. Otherwise, don't waste my time.
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:16:31 PM PST
by
andyk
To: andyk
30 days for killing 2 babies...outrageous.
To: andyk
3
posted on
04/01/2006 3:18:12 PM PST
by
Thumper1960
(The enemy within: Demoncrats and DSA.ORG Sedition is a Liberal "family value".)
To: SouthernFreebird
To: andyk
Link doesn't work.
I have a five year old and a two year old. If some stupid teenager ran them over, I would tear her head off and go to jail myself.
Thirty days for murdering two babies? WTF?
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:20:40 PM PST
by
teenyelliott
(Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
To: SouthernFreebird
I can't get over this. I read a story today already about a pitbull owner who received 3 years because her dog killed an elderly woman. This lady kills two baby girls and gets 30 days.
6
posted on
04/01/2006 3:20:47 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: andyk
She should just thank her "lucky stars" every day that she didn't hit and kill a dog instead!
They would have thrown the book at her!
To: politicket
She should just thank her "lucky stars" every day that she didn't hit and kill a dog instead!
Sad, but true! I'm stunned by this ruling.
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:22:22 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: andyk
Florida shyster and crooked judges at work. Nothing to see here. Just move along,
The perp would have absolutely gotten much, MUCH more time if she had killed a puppy.
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:25:01 PM PST
by
FormerACLUmember
(No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
To: andyk
hell she could be a teacher and bang one of her kids and get more time....o'reilly is gonna be on this one too as well he should
To: andyk
Another horrible judicial injustice in Floriduh. Sickening!
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:28:53 PM PST
by
demkicker
(democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
To: SouthernFreebird
No big deal. They're just blobs of tissues, remember?
To: teenyelliott
Ashley Townsend's booking mug. Try the link again, it works fine for me.
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:31:35 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: andyk
Father is politically connected Tallahassee lawyer. EOS
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:32:29 PM PST
by
MindBender26
(Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
To: MindBender26
Father is politically connected Tallahassee lawyer
Ah, I didn't know that. I'm sure the reporter accidentally left that part out...
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:35:22 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: MindBender26
Father is politically connected Tallahassee lawyer.Well, that explains it. Each child is worth only 15 days.
To: skaterboy
She was a Teacher......When it happened.
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:41:59 PM PST
by
samantha
(cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
To: samantha
"She was a Teacher......When it happened."
And she's not bad looking either. Pretty people tend to get less severe sentences.
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:49:03 PM PST
by
jdm
To: andyk
Here's the byline for this photo:
Ivan (left) and Yamilka Velez, the parents of Anjelica and Victoria, who were killed last October react to the news Ashley Townsend, the driver who struck and killed their daughters, turned her self into authorties today. (RED HUBER/ORLANDO SENTINEL) Mar. 16, 2005
I guess it was either a hit-and-run, or charges weren't filed for six months.
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posted on
04/01/2006 3:49:18 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: andyk
I can't imagine the despair those parents are going through.
To: andyk
If it was a hit and run, I'm even more disgusted.
To: jdm
Girl next door,Teacher,well to do,highly educated, but irresponsibly lousy driver.
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posted on
04/01/2006 4:00:19 PM PST
by
samantha
(cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
To: andyk
Yep, the link worked this time.
I cannot understand how those children's lives are only worth thirty days.
It is a crazy world.
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posted on
04/01/2006 4:12:19 PM PST
by
teenyelliott
(Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
To: teenyelliott
Thirty days for murdering two babies? WTF? It was an ACCIDENT.
Should Laura Bush should be in prison too?
To: MindBender26
Or an Illegal Immigrant.
"We don' need no stinkin' laws".
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posted on
04/01/2006 4:13:22 PM PST
by
radar101
(The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
To: IRememberElian
Should Laura Bush should be in prison tooI don't know what you are talking about with that, but going 45mph through a red light is not an accident. A car is a deadly weapon, and should be treated as such. 45mph toward an intersection, with pedestrians? How long would you have to be distracted from driving to NOT know you were approaching an intersection?
She pleaded guilty to homicide, and she gets one month for killing two children?
I am not saying she did it on purpose. But she did kill those children, and one month is insane.
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posted on
04/01/2006 4:18:06 PM PST
by
teenyelliott
(Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
To: teenyelliott
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posted on
04/01/2006 4:34:50 PM PST
by
stylin19a
(I never put my foot in my mouth...I shoot that sucker off long before it gets anywhere near my mouth)
To: andyk
To: IRememberElian
It was an ACCIDENT.I was going to post the same thing. However, after reading the hysterical calls for blood postings by so many self rightous, nose in the air, perfect assholes that never ever did anything wrong in their life, I decided it wasn't worth the effort to talk with these MADD mother, retribution types.
God bless you and good luck.
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posted on
04/01/2006 4:40:53 PM PST
by
metalurgist
(Believe in my God or I will kill you.! The cry of all religious extremists.)
To: metalurgist
hysterical calls for blood postings by so many self rightous, nose in the air, perfect assholes that never ever did anything wrong in their life...MADD mother, retribution types
LMAO!
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posted on
04/01/2006 4:54:26 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: metalurgist
Agreed. She's not going to re-offend.
Look, from a jurisprudential standpoint she didn't murder anyone. She didn't mean to kill those people. That's why we have statues like vehicular homicide and the like.
Terrible? Yes. Reprehensible? Sort of. She ran a red light. I've done that too. The difference was the results, and the legal system recognizes that: I got a ticket; she's a convicted felon. But the underlying act was the same.
What it comes down to is your philosophy on why we punish people? If the goal is to punish people so that they won't re-offend, then this sentence is probably appropriate. I highly doubt she will, in the future, run a red light and accidentally kill people. I'm not even sure that's possible; can you recommit an accident? If we punish primarily to deter others from participating in that conduct, this case is more complicated because of the innocuousness of the underlying act. I think everyone would agree that 30 days in jail is a severe punishment for running a red light. If that were the punishment, no one would run red lights. But here we're not punishing that, we're punishing running a red light and accidentally killing people. That confuses things and makes the entire deterrent effect questionable. No one wants to accidentally kill people (even people who would, on purpose, kill other, certain people). So I don't see what a more severe punishment does here ("It's not so bad if you run a red light, but just don't do it at an inopportune time"). Or maybe we punish people to make us feel better that we've put this person in jail? If that's your theory, that's fine, just admit to yourself that that's why you want the more severe punishment.
Having said this, it's, in my opinion, fairly obvious that this is a complicated issue. Legal scholars still fight about stuff like this, whether we should incarcerate people in order to make society feel better. That said, I hope this shed some light on why she probably got the deal she got from the state. This is rough to prove in front of a jury. Is it different if the light was green but she was putting on makeup? In that situation isn't there an argument she should have been watching the road and she took on that responsibility when she got behind the wheel? What if the light was yellow?
I'm not sure the state could have convicted, so they gave her the deal, and she, probably wisely, took it.
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posted on
04/01/2006 5:18:18 PM PST
by
Grn_Lantern
(Let's go to work...)
To: andyk
Is she any relation to the Townsend/Kennedys?
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posted on
04/01/2006 5:20:02 PM PST
by
YourAdHere
(Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
To: andyk
"she will then be on seven years' supervised probation with the Department of Corrections, which can be transferred to Leon County." Not a chance she gets through seven years without f'ing up again; at least enough to invoke a hearing to revoke her proby.
To: andyk
Locally we had a race-car-driver-in-training run over a mentally retarded boy who was off the roadway pushing his bike up a hill. The driver got fined $1500 and spent 40 days of a 45 day sentence in jail.
His father ran over a pedestrian when he was about the same age. He didn't even get the jail time, just court costs.
Runs in the family, I guess.
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posted on
04/01/2006 5:34:13 PM PST
by
HighlyOpinionated
(In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
To: SouthernFreebird
Do you think she started out that day, "I think I will kill two babies today?"
Or do you think she cries herself to sleep, knowing the nightmares she will face, everyday?
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posted on
04/01/2006 5:36:34 PM PST
by
patton
(Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
To: Grn_Lantern
Excellent post.
I would also assume there will be a Civil case against her at a later date. Her being found guilty helps that prospect.
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posted on
04/01/2006 6:01:37 PM PST
by
headstamp
(Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
To: teenyelliott
This being Florida, I'm surprised she wasn't tried for capital murder(and she should have been.)
To: stylin19a
Okay, well, my opinion is that a wreck involving two vehicles is a tad different than running over pedestrians in a crosswalk.
Thanks for the link. I had never heard that.
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posted on
04/01/2006 6:27:53 PM PST
by
teenyelliott
(Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
To: Grn_Lantern
Good post, but it won't mollify FR's Old Testament Retributionists.
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posted on
04/01/2006 6:28:38 PM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
To: darkangel82
"This being Florida, I'm surprised she wasn't tried for capital murder(and she should have been.)"
If you accidentally kill someone will you commit suicide?
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posted on
04/01/2006 6:30:44 PM PST
by
RHINO369
To: RHINO369
No, but if I take a human life, the state can now take mine.
To: Mr. Jeeves
FR's Old Testament Retributionists
Does that mean that you don't think that retribution should be one of the reasons for punishing criminals? Or, that it is one of the reasons, but you think 30 days jail is more than appropriate in this particular case?
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posted on
04/01/2006 6:42:09 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: darkangel82
Ok if you accidently kill someone can I kill you?
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posted on
04/01/2006 6:42:37 PM PST
by
RHINO369
To: andyk
"Does that mean that you don't think that retribution should be one of the reasons for punishing criminals? Or, that it is one of the reasons, but you think 30 days jail is more than appropriate in this particular case?"
Why must you punish an accident? Like someone else said does Laura Bush deserve to be punished for running a stop sign and killing someone too?
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posted on
04/01/2006 6:46:33 PM PST
by
RHINO369
To: RHINO369
Why must you punish an accident? Like someone else said does Laura Bush deserve to be punished for running a stop sign and killing someone too?
Wow, I'm sorry. I thought it was a simple, reasonable, friendly question. I can see you're not interested in such things. Your answer could have been "yes, I think 30 days jail is more than appropriate in this case". I hope I haven't struck a nerve.
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posted on
04/01/2006 6:54:02 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: teenyelliott
dead in a crosswalk dead in the car, both from a blown stop sign and one is different ?
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posted on
04/01/2006 7:08:20 PM PST
by
stylin19a
(I never put my foot in my mouth...I shoot that sucker off long before it gets anywhere near my mouth)
To: jdm
Pretty people tend to get less severe sentences. I really hope that rule holds true in Cynthia McKinney's case. ;)
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posted on
04/01/2006 7:14:53 PM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
To: stylin19a
dead in a crosswalk dead in the car, both from a blown stop sign and one is different ?
There were two dead in the crosswalk, and it was a red light, not a stop sign. The mother says that she had the go-ahead to cross. But, what does it matter? It was just an accident.
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posted on
04/01/2006 7:41:07 PM PST
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: andyk
Kind of funny to read the responses to this thread, and then read one about Red Light Cameras.
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posted on
04/01/2006 7:49:53 PM PST
by
Doe Eyes
To: metalurgist
It was an ACCIDENT. I was going to post the same thing. However, after reading the hysterical calls for blood postings by so many self rightous, nose in the air, perfect assholes that never ever did anything wrong in their life, I decided it wasn't worth the effort to talk with these MADD mother, retribution types. God bless you and good luck.
I feel terrible for the victims but I often see the book thrown at defendants in these situations while habitual, violent criminals (especially child molesters) are let off easy. There should be a distinction between an accident and cases where it was done on purpose.
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posted on
04/01/2006 7:50:24 PM PST
by
Kokojmudd
(Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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