Posted on 04/01/2006 3:30:49 PM PST by neverdem
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was challenged over the issue of abortion yesterday for the first time in her re-election race this year, as a possible Republican opponent tried to chip away at her image as a moderate who supports adoption.
John Spencer, who leads the field of Republican candidates in endorsements and fund-raising, visited a pregnancy center in Brooklyn that promotes adoption and denounced new federal legislation that would regulate advertising for these centers. The centers often operate near and compete with abortion providers, sometimes by using graphic material to discourage abortion.
"Hillary Rodham Clinton is telling voters that she is pro-adoption and wants to reduce abortions," Mr. Spencer, a former mayor of Yonkers, said in an interview. "But now her liberal Democratic friends are trying to hurt crisis pregnancy centers that encourage adoption."
The bill, introduced by Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, a Democrat whose district includes the East Side of Manhattan and parts of Queens, would authorize the Federal Trade Commission to crack down on any pregnancy center that suggests in its advertising that it provides abortions. A spokesman for Ms. Maloney said some of the centers mimic trademarks of Planned Parenthood clinics to lure women for anti-abortion counseling.
"Then they lock the doors and show videos of aborted fetuses and other propaganda," said the spokesman, Afshin Mohamadi.
New York Republican leaders face a tricky balancing act on abortion rights in this year's Senate race. They do not want to come off as extremist opponents, they say, since a majority of New Yorkers favor abortion rights. But they also want to paint Mrs. Clinton as a liberal on abortion and plant doubts about her message in favor of adoption and cutting abortion rates — not so much to defeat her in New York, but to muddy her image if...
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I just betcha those doors are not locked and any person not inclined to sit there and view what abortion really is can just stand up and walk out.
I'm sure glad the Clinton Campaign gets to decide who her opponent is.
Uh, precisely what could be *bad* about anti-abortion counseling?!
The NYGOP should have put John Spencer fron and center from day one. Instead we've had to suffer through the incompetance of Pirro and the absurdity of "K.T." Go Spencer!
Uh, precisely where did I infer that there was something *bad* about it? I merely pointed out that I believe it's a lie that the doors were "locked".
I am 110% pro-life, but no person is obligated to listen to my, or any pro-lifers', viewpoint on the matter if that person does not wish to.
Well, the Republic would be much better off were hillary herself aborted years ago.
So "mimicking trademarks" is "suggesting that it provides abortions" is committing actionable fraud. Seems promoting abortion matters more to liberals than the First Amendment.
The NYGOP is almost always too smart by half. "K.T." seems like a bad joke. John Spencer is a far superior candidate, IMHO.
Whenever I live in NY, I'm always registered with the Conservatives. I was lucky it wasn't close last year. I didn't have to vote for Bloomberg. I never voted for Giuliani. I voted for Pataki just the first time.
I can't stand RINOs that ignore the Bill of Rights. Thank God for the Conservative Party. I can live with my votes.
The fact that Spencer is even in the Times shows that he will give The Queen a run for her money.
Uh, I was referring to the article...
The NYS Republican Party THINKS it can't get anyone elected, unless they run a pro-abortion liberal. However, pro-abortion, liberal Howard Mills lost to Schmuckie with a humiliating 24%.
Pro-life John Spencer won the mayor's race in Yonkers, twice, and who knows how many other times he would have won if it weren't for term limits.
Former Senator Al D'Amato won in the 90's, by the same number of votes cast on the NYS Right-to-Life line. Later he promoted pro-abortion Pataki, so the NYS Right-to-Life did not endorse D'Amato, and he LOST!
When former A.G. Vacco was endorsed by the NYS Right-to-Life Party - he WON! The next time around, his campaign manager unwisely told him not to seek the NYS Right-to-Life Party endorsement, and Vacco lost by the number of votes cast on the NYS Right-to-Life Party line.
My NY state senator is a pro-life, conservative.
Majority leader GOP Bruno is pro-life.
Minority GOP leader Assemblyman Tedeski is a pro-life, conservative.
And so it goes............
With many pro-lifers, a candidate being pro-life will be their litmus test. On the other hand, pro-"choicers," for the most part, will vote for a candidate because of other issues. I read a poll on this.
IIRC, D'Amato had that added onto the Defense Bill appropriations.
http://www.members.tripod.com/~joseromia/samuel.html
The baby was not aborted, very much the opposite, but the picture and accompanying story is a powerful one, about 5 years old, but maybe it's time to show that babies are not just an inhuman growth until the moment of birth.
This one is named Samuel Alexander Armas, and while quite famous, I didn't learn of the lad's existance until a few minutes ago.
The beast and her campaign geneouses jumped wrong. They did everything posssible to help Spencer kill Pirro because they thought she would be the tougher candidate. They were and are wrong. If they ran against Pirro they would have had nothing to worry about. Pirro would have parrotted every position the beast has ( kill babies, "marrying" gays,grab guns affirmative action). Pirro would have been seen as nothing more than the beast with much better legs.
Now they have a problem. Oh, I fully understand that New York is a rat soaked state, but with the beast running two campaigns at the same time that will hurt her.
The beast is the one who will be doing a delicate balancing act. She is the one who will have to do the careful lying.
Both John Spencer and the crazy rat will demand that she say and do things she won't want to say or do. Pirro just couldn't do that. So howie wolfson, you've got what you thought you wanted. Now what?
"I'm pretty certain the RTL Party endorsed each of Senator D'Amato's four races for the U.S. Senate, including his final (unsuccessful) re-election race."
My husband and I used to be committeepersons for the NYS Right-to-Life Party, and they told us that the reason they did not endorse D'Amato for the last time was because D'Amato pushed to have pro-"choice" Pataki for governor.
I think that schmuck Jack Newfield even wrote a column about it for the New York Post-if I'm not mistaken-when that paper still carried his byline.
Well, the Republic would be much better off were hillary herself aborted years ago.
Is this a joke? You cannot be this disrespectful to someone and wish them dead just because you disagree with someone's politics. Even I am not that low and I can hit some below the knees.
fyi:
National Right to Life Committee
With respect to the National Right to Life Committee, I regard the part that they have been playing in the political process as contemptible. Even as we sit here today, they have refused to endorse a pro-life candidate for the U.S. Senate, Congresswoman Linda Smith of Washington State, and have endorsed her pro-abortion opposition for the Republican nomination, Chris Bayley. In New York State, they have actively campaigned for Al D'Amato, to be the nominee of the Right-to-Life Party of New York for the U.S. Senate, despite the fact that D'Amato has voted for every pro-abortion Supreme Court nominee, including Breyer, Ginsburg, David Souter, Sandra Day O'Connor, etc.; despite the fact that he is one of the principal burden-bearers for the homosexual movement on the floor of the U.S. Senate. Despite all of this, the National Right to Life Committee has endorsed D'Amato for the Right-to-Life Party of New York nomination for the U.S. Senate over a 100 percent pro-life candidate.
They can't even make the excuse that D'Amato wouldn't be on the ballot, that the only choice would be a liberal Democrat, if Droleskey (pro-lifer Droleskey) were to succeed, because D'Amato already has the Republican nomination, and the nomination of the so-called Conservative Party in New York State. So I regard this organization (the National Right to Life Committee) to have prostituted itself for the many hundreds of thousands of dollars it has received from the Republican Party. I think its behavior is disgraceful, reprehensible -- they should be ostracized, repudiated, condemned, and exposed by every person who considers himself, or herself, to be pro-life.
excerpt: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19259
btw, this article mentions BOTH the RTL PARTY and the RTL COMMITTEE. Sometimes the two get confused.
Anyway, my main point on previous post, was to make the point that it doesn't hurt to be pro-life, as much as the NYS Republican Party thinks it does.
"I know that when he ran against Schumer he had an opponent vying for the RTL nomination, but I believe he beat him by two-thirds of the internal balloting.
I think that schmuck Jack Newfield even wrote a column about it for the New York Post-if I'm not mistaken-when that paper still carried his byline."
I wasn't a committeeperson in '98, so don't know the mechanics of it, but a RTL Party officer told me that they did not back D'Amato again (against Schumer), because he supported pro-abort Pataki.
In fact, most of the pro-abortion Republicans in New York State lose by just as wide a margin-if not a greater one-than their pro-life counterparts.
I do believe, however, that D'amato had the RTL ballot line in that election.
The position of the RTL Committee is something that I'm not quite as familiar with.
I do know that Pataki and Co. subverted the party-and substituted a Republican shill as chairman-before the last election in which it was still on the ballot.
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