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Thousands in NYC Protest Immigration Bill
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/1/06 | David B. Caruso - ap

Posted on 04/01/2006 4:04:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK - Thousands of immigrants formed a line stretching more than a mile long Saturday as they marched across the Brooklyn Bridge, waving flags from more than a dozen countries as they demonstrated against possible immigration reform in Congress.

Heralded by a cacophony of trumpets, whistles and drums, the crowd of mostly Latin Americans gathered in downtown Brooklyn and trudged a path laden with symbols of the city's immigrant strength on their way to a plaza in lower Manhattan.

The marchers mustered in a neighborhood settled by the Dutch, crossed a bridge designed by a German, and finished in a square at the edge of Chinatown in an area that once held the Irish slums glamorized in the 2002 film "Gangs of New York."

On the way, they passed the Statue of Liberty, hot dog carts run by Middle Easterners, taxis driven by Russians and police officers speaking Chinese.

More than 10,000 people flooded Foley Square, turning it into a sea of colorful banners and echoing noise. The crowd came dressed in the colors of Mexico, Uruguay and Ecuador, but just as many draped themselves in red, white and blue.

"If you hurt immigrants you are hurting America," read a sign held by one marcher. "We are your economy," said another.

Another marcher, a woman from Mexico who spoke no English, carried a sign reading, "I cleaned up ground zero."

There were demonstrations across the country this week against legislation already approved in the House, which would make it a felony to be in the U.S. without the proper immigration paperwork.

Competing legislation under consideration in the Senate would take an opposite approach and give the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. a chance at citizenship.

"We came to say that we're here," said George Criollo, who arrived in New York a decade ago from Cuenca, Ecuador. "We have to speak, legal or illegal. We have to speak about this issue."

Criollo, who said his family was in the United States illegally, feared that legislation could lead to his deportation or jailing. In the House, legislation already has passed that would set penalties for anyone who knowingly assists or encourages illegal immigrants to remain in the country.

In Costa Mesa, Calif., about 500 people protested the crackdown on illegal immigrants.

"Aiding my kids should not be a crime," said Dagoberto Zavala, 52, who immigrated from El Salvador to the Santa Ana area, and said he brought his two children into the United States illegally. "Congress needs to know the laws we have don't work."

Last year, the Costa Mesa City Council approved a policy that would give local police in certain cases the authority to enforce federal immigration law. The plan is not likely to take effect for at least several months, as federal officials decide whether to accept the city's proposal. If put into effect, it would make Costa Mesa the first city in the nation to train its police in federal immigration enforcement.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: finishthewall; immigrantlist; immigrationbill; nyc; protest; thousands

1 posted on 04/01/2006 4:04:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Tiburcio Maldonado, 53, of Inglewood, Calif., holds an American flag during a demonstration to show opposition to proposed bill HR4437, legislation toughening the United States' stance on illegal immigration, in Costa Mesa, Calif., Saturday April 1, 2006. (AP Photo/Lucas Jackson)


2 posted on 04/01/2006 4:05:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Protesters march during the The Great Walk In Solidarity With Immigrants Saturday April 1, 2006, in New York. Thousands of immigrants formed a line stretching more than a mile long Saturday as they marched across the Brooklyn Bridge, waving flags from more than a dozen countries as they demonstrated against possible immigration reform in Congress. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)


3 posted on 04/01/2006 4:06:14 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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4 posted on 04/01/2006 4:06:50 PM PST by jwalburg (If I have not seen as far as others, it is because of the giants standing on my shoulders.)
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To: NormsRevenge

A man waves a Mexican flag over the crowd during a rally at 'The Great Walk In Solidarity With Immigrants' in New York April 1, 2006. This march is one of many around the United States in recent weeks calling for rights and amnesty for immigrants. REUTERS/Seth Wenig


5 posted on 04/01/2006 4:07:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
Where was ICE with the net? Could have captured them and dumped them back over the board, where will this end, I'm afraid to think about it, the illeglas will have win won.
6 posted on 04/01/2006 4:09:10 PM PST by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Tontos de Abril.


7 posted on 04/01/2006 4:09:50 PM PST by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)
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To: NormsRevenge
The crowd came dressed in the colors of Mexico, Uruguay and Ecuador, but just as many draped themselves in red, white and blue.

They're showing a little more PR savvy this time.

8 posted on 04/01/2006 4:11:44 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: NormsRevenge
The marchers mustered in a neighborhood settled by the Dutch, crossed a bridge designed by a German, and finished in a square at the edge of Chinatown in an area that once held the Irish slums glamorized in the 2002 film "Gangs of New York." On the way, they passed the Statue of Liberty, hot dog carts run by Middle Easterners, taxis driven by Russians and police officers speaking Chinese.

What is the AP trying to accomplish by including this? These people are not the hard-working, wholesome immigrants of yesteryear who patiently went through Ellis Island and settled down throughout the country and made this country what (well, what it used to be) it is today.

Seriously, after the borders are enforced and immigration laws reformed, there should be quotas from accepting new immigrants from Latin America.

9 posted on 04/01/2006 4:11:50 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: NormsRevenge

And Jesse Jackson got a few hundred to march in New Orleans.


10 posted on 04/01/2006 4:12:19 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: NormsRevenge
Another marcher, a woman from Mexico who spoke no English, carried a sign reading, "I cleaned up ground zero."

Sorry but..LOL...
11 posted on 04/01/2006 4:15:04 PM PST by Dallas59 (MOHAMMED LIED-PEOPLE DIED)
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To: rockabyebaby
You do know, of course, that these people have been here all along. They were here yesterday and they'll be here tomorrow.

Illegal Irish in the NYC pubs and working as nannies. Illegal Chinese in the restaurants. Eastern Europeans here for decades. Every country on earth is represented here by illegals.

It's not just the hispanics who seem to have brought the wrath of G-D down on themselves.

12 posted on 04/01/2006 4:15:24 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
" police officers speaking Chinese"

This is about too much.

13 posted on 04/01/2006 4:16:41 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: jwalburg

And the real agenda bubbles from the bottom.


14 posted on 04/01/2006 4:16:56 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: NormsRevenge
waving flags from more than a dozen countries as they demonstrated against possible immigration reform in Congress.

Good grief these people are stupid. You want to win people over to your side this is not the way to do it.

15 posted on 04/01/2006 4:18:34 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sign up to donate monthly and you will be automatically entered in our "Win a Bear Hug Contest")
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To: NormsRevenge
"I cleaned up ground zero."

Does anybody know if I'm right to doubt this comment? I thought ground zero was pretty strictly controlled as far as access is concerned.
16 posted on 04/01/2006 4:21:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Are there any other countries in the World that allow people to illegally enter and work?


17 posted on 04/01/2006 4:22:41 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: NormsRevenge

18 posted on 04/01/2006 4:24:38 PM PST by Gritty (Illegal aliens are the bird flu of demographic change Bob Lonsberry)
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To: jwalburg
now that sign is funny..the Spanish conquer south America and subjugate the natives after 1492 and they belong yet European don't. Quite funny.
19 posted on 04/01/2006 4:25:21 PM PST by rottweiller_inc (Hillary isn't the smartest woman in the world; She's the village idiot.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Earlier in the week I got this strange bilingual text message on my cell phone teeling me to call the Arizona senator and tell him to vote against HR4437. Even had Kyle's phone number. I noticed that the number from which the text message was sent originated in Mexico!

http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html


20 posted on 04/01/2006 4:29:37 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: cripplecreek

You're right and that site was not open access especially for little women who speak no English.

More propaganda that will fail miserably along with the media lies.

HR4437 now!


21 posted on 04/01/2006 4:36:02 PM PST by romanesq
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To: OldFriend
You do know, of course, that these people have been here all along. They were here yesterday and they'll be here tomorrow.

Yes, and as we sit here today another 5 to 10 THOUSAND will enter illegally. And tomorow and the next day....

How many before you say enough?

22 posted on 04/01/2006 4:41:10 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wonder what the rest of the cropped picture looks like?


23 posted on 04/01/2006 4:43:11 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Gritty

Take this Poll and be heard by the Senators,

http://www.gopsenators.com/survey/immigration.aspx?category_meta_id=54c8d


24 posted on 04/01/2006 4:45:27 PM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Somebody must have told these clowns they were p*ssing off most of America with their Mexican flag-waving antics. Now they're draping themselves in the American flag. BWAHAHAHAHA! And they can stop trying to tell me about the importance of immigration any time: my grandparents were LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who came into this country legally, learned English, took their citizenship tests, and became American citizens. LEGAL is the key word.


25 posted on 04/01/2006 4:52:17 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: NormsRevenge

I love this one, "We are your economy,".

Your not my economy here in MN. And to aid the economy don't you have to be working as well?


26 posted on 04/01/2006 5:09:18 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: NormsRevenge
In the House, legislation already has passed that would set penalties for anyone who knowingly assists or encourages illegal immigrants to remain in the country.

Does this also apply to idiots in statehouses across the country who enact government benefits to illegals? Isn't that knowlingly assisting or encouraging?

27 posted on 04/01/2006 5:12:09 PM PST by Nevermore
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To: NormsRevenge

All your country are belong to us.


28 posted on 04/01/2006 5:12:54 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

"This land is my land, this land is your land"...

Let's try that again.

"This land WAS my land, this land WAS your land"...


29 posted on 04/01/2006 5:14:16 PM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Yardstick
They're showing a little more PR savvy this time.

According to Rush, McCain told them they'd better display the American flag or they'd tick off the rest of us. Apparently they listened to McCain.

30 posted on 04/01/2006 5:17:23 PM PST by ozarkgirl (http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php)
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To: NormsRevenge

Different illegals in different areas of the United States may not be the same, and though I have been to New York many times, I cannot say I know the illegals of NYC.

But I can say, I do know the illegals, specifically the illegals from Mexico, of the San Francisco Bay Area. I can tell you, among other groups, be it Viet, or Cuban, or Chinese and so on, attitudes change dramatically among one group from the other. And anyone who knows me, knows I am not afraid to intermingle among any group friendly or hostile, and being very political I have connected with some communities such as the Vietnamese for example.

But, there is a question that I am now pondering.

I hear Wall Street types call illegal aliens “entrepreneurs”, as if we are importing entrepreneurship by taking in the poverty of Mexico. The response of many conservatives to the no-borders crowd among Wall Street and within the Bush Administration is to ask, are we importing poverty?

I wonder about that, but I also wonder about another question.

Are we importing, Communism? I am not trying to be funny by asking such a question, albeit my anti-communism roots go way, way back.

I feel that I know the illegal alien culture very well simply because of where I live and of those who live around me and intermingle with me daily on a personal basis. And from my familiarity with and among illegal aliens from Mexico, I do not see the Communist element. But that may be my myopic view of reality. Because we do see the rise of radical socialists and communism in Latin American countries again on the rise, what to speak of Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. I know for a fact that the far left is gaining ground in Mexico, the Fidel Castro type wing of Latin communists and socialists.
I observed some of the Latino teenagers who were protesting, and I listened to what they were saying. What I heard, was typical of what I here Leftist Professors yell and indoctrinate into their students.

Now among the adult or elder Latinos, that is the illegals over 25 years old, they were saying different things then these teenagers. From the adult illegals, it was the standard complaints and demands typical of what we hear from the old media about "fairness", and "hard work" and so on.

But from the younger ones, the teenagers, it was a different message.

It was definitely a leftist message, defiant and trouble for our country. I heard about “Mexican land grants”, and attitudes that California is their Mexican nation, not America’s. And I noticed something that struck me - yes, many were flying Mexican flags. This included adult illegals. But among the adult iilegals, there were some waving American flags.

But among these teenagers, they waved the Mexican flag. And they shouted in cheer if others did so as well. They were Mexicans. Not just first, be always. They had an attitude. It was them against others attitude, and they were not asking but going to, as one said, “take this country”.

I think we better consider, that if amnesty is given again, this will encourage another 20 million to come. And I think it is very likely, the next 20 million will not be the same as the first 20 million. I think they will come in with the same message I heard from these teenagers the other day.

We also have to be very careful. We do not want to see Mexico go communist.

It is a very, very difficult situation.

That is only going to get worse, of which in large part I blame George Bush who has literally wasted six precious years not helping the situation. These were six precious years in the timeframe of what is changing around us. Now those years are lost, and they could have very well have been the years that could have made the difference.


31 posted on 04/01/2006 5:17:33 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
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To: miliantnutcase
If anything they are hurting the economy they pay no taxes..no withholding: no SS, no Medicare, no federal income taxes and yet they are receiving services......socialism is never good for an economy.
32 posted on 04/01/2006 5:20:36 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: NormsRevenge
It's over.

It's amnesty.

And there isn't a damned thing any of us can do about it -- so stop whining and accept reality.

Folks, we have no one to blame for this but ourselves. We all knew what the Big Business Party was like when we voted for them. For us, it's God, then Country, then Money. For those we elected, it's Money, then Money, then Money. This is the result. Live with it, America.

"But what are we going to do, B-chan?" you ask?

The only thing left to do is this, and it only has two words:

LEARN SPANISH

33 posted on 04/01/2006 5:34:15 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan Any questions?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
They forget to mention that the Dutch-Germans-Chinese-East Europeans-Japanese-Italians-Scandinavians-Russians-Poles--and all the rest did not demand a 'second language' be taught in our schools and be printed on our official documents to suit their fancies--no, indeed they made their children learn English and were proud to be American citizens without politicians playing games for their votes by ignoring those 'immigrants' who came before them and were bona fide citizens---plus, they did not march with flags of their native countries raised over the Stars and Stripes of the USA---this bunch wants to take and not assimilate as all before did---they want the rest out of their lands as they put it on their signs and banners--close the borders---round up and deport all illegals---thern consider a 'guest worker program' that is fully and fairly enforced---we can send men to the moon but cannot control our borders due to suckup politicians who care nothing about the nation except getting money for reelection term after term--not one dfime from me until I see some results of what the US citizens want.
34 posted on 04/01/2006 5:40:27 PM PST by cmotormac44
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To: NormsRevenge

You forgot the barf alert. Of course we know we are of foreign descent. My grandparents came over from the old country. So what if all this stuff is built and maintained by different ethiticities? EVERYBODY is of immigrant descent; there are no indigienous people. They all arrived from somewhere else, it's just a matter of when. I'm not impressed.


35 posted on 04/01/2006 5:44:35 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NormsRevenge


I don't want to pay my taxes. I think it's racist discrimination that I should have too.

Let's all march now - come on, who's with me???


36 posted on 04/01/2006 7:03:21 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
Criollo, who said his family was in the United States illegally, feared that legislation could lead to his deportation or jailing.

You stupid bastard.

And a big eff you to our piece of crap government 'representatives' for allowing things to progress to this point.

BITS

37 posted on 04/01/2006 7:46:41 PM PST by Looking4Truth (Radical Muslims and Illegal immigrants: Too stupid to create so they invade or destroy.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Thousands of immigrants formed a line stretching more than a mile long...waving flags..."

...waving flags and laughing-as they crowded into all of our various local emergency rooms.

38 posted on 04/01/2006 7:50:51 PM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Looking4Truth; NormsRevenge; Doe Eyes; Harmless Teddy Bear; cripplecreek; satchmodog9; ...
"Another marcher, a woman from Mexico who spoke no English, carried a sign reading..."

...carried a sign reading:

"Rest Assured, I'll not only get myself and all of my family members into local emergency rooms,
but also George Criollo and his entire family, Dagoberto Zavala, his two children and all of
his eighty-six cousins, but also Pedro Hernandez, his wife, their fouteen kids and sixty-five cousins,
along with Raul Fuentes, his sixteen children and all of their seventy-three cousins, but also Miguel Juan Zapata,
his dozen kids and one hundred and forty-three other relatives who are all illegals and of course,
Jesus Gonzales and his twenty-six kids along with his two hundred other assorted relatives."

(the last line in her sign reads:

"And while all of the four hundred of us stated above head towards your
local Emergency Rooms, you stipud gringos will hear - -

- a cacophony of trumpets, whistles and drums...while we laugh all the way."

39 posted on 04/01/2006 8:36:37 PM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Sic Luceat Lux

Get 'em out/ Finish the Wall/ Bttt


40 posted on 04/01/2006 8:37:21 PM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Gritty; Mia T; Travis McGee; rottweiller_inc; Doe Eyes; NormsRevenge
Do you suppose any of the four-hundred in my #39 also posed in your cartoon?
41 posted on 04/02/2006 7:52:22 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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The marchers mustered in a neighborhood settled by the Dutch, crossed a bridge designed by a German, and finished in a square at the edge of Chinatown in an area that once held the Irish slums glamorized in the 2002 film "Gangs of New York."


"My father gave his life, making this country what it is. Murdered by the British with all of his men on the twenty fifth of July, Anno Domini, 1814. Do you think I'm going to help you befoul his legacy, by giving this country over to them, what's had no hand in the fighting for it? Why, because they come off a boat crawling with lice and begging you for soup."

42 posted on 04/02/2006 7:58:21 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

Excellent post/ bttt


43 posted on 04/02/2006 8:29:40 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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