Skip to comments.Thousands in NYC Protest Immigration Bill
Posted on 04/01/2006 4:04:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge
NEW YORK - Thousands of immigrants formed a line stretching more than a mile long Saturday as they marched across the Brooklyn Bridge, waving flags from more than a dozen countries as they demonstrated against possible immigration reform in Congress.
Heralded by a cacophony of trumpets, whistles and drums, the crowd of mostly Latin Americans gathered in downtown Brooklyn and trudged a path laden with symbols of the city's immigrant strength on their way to a plaza in lower Manhattan.
The marchers mustered in a neighborhood settled by the Dutch, crossed a bridge designed by a German, and finished in a square at the edge of Chinatown in an area that once held the Irish slums glamorized in the 2002 film "Gangs of New York."
On the way, they passed the Statue of Liberty, hot dog carts run by Middle Easterners, taxis driven by Russians and police officers speaking Chinese.
More than 10,000 people flooded Foley Square, turning it into a sea of colorful banners and echoing noise. The crowd came dressed in the colors of Mexico, Uruguay and Ecuador, but just as many draped themselves in red, white and blue.
"If you hurt immigrants you are hurting America," read a sign held by one marcher. "We are your economy," said another.
Another marcher, a woman from Mexico who spoke no English, carried a sign reading, "I cleaned up ground zero."
There were demonstrations across the country this week against legislation already approved in the House, which would make it a felony to be in the U.S. without the proper immigration paperwork.
Competing legislation under consideration in the Senate would take an opposite approach and give the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. a chance at citizenship.
"We came to say that we're here," said George Criollo, who arrived in New York a decade ago from Cuenca, Ecuador. "We have to speak, legal or illegal. We have to speak about this issue."
Criollo, who said his family was in the United States illegally, feared that legislation could lead to his deportation or jailing. In the House, legislation already has passed that would set penalties for anyone who knowingly assists or encourages illegal immigrants to remain in the country.
In Costa Mesa, Calif., about 500 people protested the crackdown on illegal immigrants.
"Aiding my kids should not be a crime," said Dagoberto Zavala, 52, who immigrated from El Salvador to the Santa Ana area, and said he brought his two children into the United States illegally. "Congress needs to know the laws we have don't work."
Last year, the Costa Mesa City Council approved a policy that would give local police in certain cases the authority to enforce federal immigration law. The plan is not likely to take effect for at least several months, as federal officials decide whether to accept the city's proposal. If put into effect, it would make Costa Mesa the first city in the nation to train its police in federal immigration enforcement.
Tiburcio Maldonado, 53, of Inglewood, Calif., holds an American flag during a demonstration to show opposition to proposed bill HR4437, legislation toughening the United States' stance on illegal immigration, in Costa Mesa, Calif., Saturday April 1, 2006. (AP Photo/Lucas Jackson)
Protesters march during the The Great Walk In Solidarity With Immigrants Saturday April 1, 2006, in New York. Thousands of immigrants formed a line stretching more than a mile long Saturday as they marched across the Brooklyn Bridge, waving flags from more than a dozen countries as they demonstrated against possible immigration reform in Congress. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)
A man waves a Mexican flag over the crowd during a rally at 'The Great Walk In Solidarity With Immigrants' in New York April 1, 2006. This march is one of many around the United States in recent weeks calling for rights and amnesty for immigrants. REUTERS/Seth Wenig
Tontos de Abril.
They're showing a little more PR savvy this time.
What is the AP trying to accomplish by including this? These people are not the hard-working, wholesome immigrants of yesteryear who patiently went through Ellis Island and settled down throughout the country and made this country what (well, what it used to be) it is today.
Seriously, after the borders are enforced and immigration laws reformed, there should be quotas from accepting new immigrants from Latin America.
And Jesse Jackson got a few hundred to march in New Orleans.
Illegal Irish in the NYC pubs and working as nannies. Illegal Chinese in the restaurants. Eastern Europeans here for decades. Every country on earth is represented here by illegals.
It's not just the hispanics who seem to have brought the wrath of G-D down on themselves.
This is about too much.
And the real agenda bubbles from the bottom.
Good grief these people are stupid. You want to win people over to your side this is not the way to do it.
Are there any other countries in the World that allow people to illegally enter and work?
Earlier in the week I got this strange bilingual text message on my cell phone teeling me to call the Arizona senator and tell him to vote against HR4437. Even had Kyle's phone number. I noticed that the number from which the text message was sent originated in Mexico!
You're right and that site was not open access especially for little women who speak no English.
More propaganda that will fail miserably along with the media lies.
Yes, and as we sit here today another 5 to 10 THOUSAND will enter illegally. And tomorow and the next day....
How many before you say enough?
Wonder what the rest of the cropped picture looks like?
Take this Poll and be heard by the Senators,
Somebody must have told these clowns they were p*ssing off most of America with their Mexican flag-waving antics. Now they're draping themselves in the American flag. BWAHAHAHAHA! And they can stop trying to tell me about the importance of immigration any time: my grandparents were LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who came into this country legally, learned English, took their citizenship tests, and became American citizens. LEGAL is the key word.
I love this one, "We are your economy,".
Your not my economy here in MN. And to aid the economy don't you have to be working as well?
Does this also apply to idiots in statehouses across the country who enact government benefits to illegals? Isn't that knowlingly assisting or encouraging?
All your country are belong to us.
"This land is my land, this land is your land"...
Let's try that again.
"This land WAS my land, this land WAS your land"...
According to Rush, McCain told them they'd better display the American flag or they'd tick off the rest of us. Apparently they listened to McCain.
Different illegals in different areas of the United States may not be the same, and though I have been to New York many times, I cannot say I know the illegals of NYC.
But I can say, I do know the illegals, specifically the illegals from Mexico, of the San Francisco Bay Area. I can tell you, among other groups, be it Viet, or Cuban, or Chinese and so on, attitudes change dramatically among one group from the other. And anyone who knows me, knows I am not afraid to intermingle among any group friendly or hostile, and being very political I have connected with some communities such as the Vietnamese for example.
But, there is a question that I am now pondering.
I hear Wall Street types call illegal aliens entrepreneurs, as if we are importing entrepreneurship by taking in the poverty of Mexico. The response of many conservatives to the no-borders crowd among Wall Street and within the Bush Administration is to ask, are we importing poverty?
I wonder about that, but I also wonder about another question.
Are we importing, Communism? I am not trying to be funny by asking such a question, albeit my anti-communism roots go way, way back.
I feel that I know the illegal alien culture very well simply because of where I live and of those who live around me and intermingle with me daily on a personal basis. And from my familiarity with and among illegal aliens from Mexico, I do not see the Communist element. But that may be my myopic view of reality. Because we do see the rise of radical socialists and communism in Latin American countries again on the rise, what to speak of Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. I know for a fact that the far left is gaining ground in Mexico, the Fidel Castro type wing of Latin communists and socialists.
I observed some of the Latino teenagers who were protesting, and I listened to what they were saying. What I heard, was typical of what I here Leftist Professors yell and indoctrinate into their students.
Now among the adult or elder Latinos, that is the illegals over 25 years old, they were saying different things then these teenagers. From the adult illegals, it was the standard complaints and demands typical of what we hear from the old media about "fairness", and "hard work" and so on.
But from the younger ones, the teenagers, it was a different message.
It was definitely a leftist message, defiant and trouble for our country. I heard about Mexican land grants, and attitudes that California is their Mexican nation, not Americas. And I noticed something that struck me - yes, many were flying Mexican flags. This included adult illegals. But among the adult iilegals, there were some waving American flags.
But among these teenagers, they waved the Mexican flag. And they shouted in cheer if others did so as well. They were Mexicans. Not just first, be always. They had an attitude. It was them against others attitude, and they were not asking but going to, as one said, take this country.
I think we better consider, that if amnesty is given again, this will encourage another 20 million to come. And I think it is very likely, the next 20 million will not be the same as the first 20 million. I think they will come in with the same message I heard from these teenagers the other day.
We also have to be very careful. We do not want to see Mexico go communist.
It is a very, very difficult situation.
That is only going to get worse, of which in large part I blame George Bush who has literally wasted six precious years not helping the situation. These were six precious years in the timeframe of what is changing around us. Now those years are lost, and they could have very well have been the years that could have made the difference.
And there isn't a damned thing any of us can do about it -- so stop whining and accept reality.
Folks, we have no one to blame for this but ourselves. We all knew what the Big Business Party was like when we voted for them. For us, it's God, then Country, then Money. For those we elected, it's Money, then Money, then Money. This is the result. Live with it, America.
"But what are we going to do, B-chan?" you ask?
The only thing left to do is this, and it only has two words:
You forgot the barf alert. Of course we know we are of foreign descent. My grandparents came over from the old country. So what if all this stuff is built and maintained by different ethiticities? EVERYBODY is of immigrant descent; there are no indigienous people. They all arrived from somewhere else, it's just a matter of when. I'm not impressed.
I don't want to pay my taxes. I think it's racist discrimination that I should have too.
Let's all march now - come on, who's with me???
You stupid bastard.
And a big eff you to our piece of crap government 'representatives' for allowing things to progress to this point.
...waving flags and laughing-as they crowded into all of our various local emergency rooms.
...carried a sign reading:
"Rest Assured, I'll not only get myself and all of my family members into local emergency rooms,
but also George Criollo and his entire family, Dagoberto Zavala, his two children and all of
his eighty-six cousins, but also Pedro Hernandez, his wife, their fouteen kids and sixty-five cousins,
along with Raul Fuentes, his sixteen children and all of their seventy-three cousins, but also Miguel Juan Zapata,
his dozen kids and one hundred and forty-three other relatives who are all illegals and of course,
Jesus Gonzales and his twenty-six kids along with his two hundred other assorted relatives."
(the last line in her sign reads:
"And while all of the four hundred of us stated above head towards your
local Emergency Rooms, you stipud gringos will hear - -
- a cacophony of trumpets, whistles and drums...while we laugh all the way."
Get 'em out/ Finish the Wall/ Bttt
"My father gave his life, making this country what it is. Murdered by the British with all of his men on the twenty fifth of July, Anno Domini, 1814. Do you think I'm going to help you befoul his legacy, by giving this country over to them, what's had no hand in the fighting for it? Why, because they come off a boat crawling with lice and begging you for soup."
Excellent post/ bttt