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'Transnationalists' Don't Take Immigration Reform Seriously
Real Clear Politics ^ | April 02, 2006 | John Leo

Posted on 04/02/2006 6:47:06 AM PDT by kellynla

In his 1995 book "The Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy," the late Christopher Lasch argued that America's political and cultural elites had opened up a gap between themselves and ordinary Americans. "Many of them have ceased to think of themselves as Americans in any important sense, implicated in America's destiny for better or worse," he wrote. They are increasingly detached from their fellow citizens and drawn to an international culture, Lasch said, or what we would today call a transnational culture.

Consider the current immigration debate in this light. In the transnational view, patriotism, assimilation and cultural cohesion are obsolete concerns. Borders and the nation-state are on the way out. Transnational flows of populations are inevitable. Workers will move in response to markets, not old-fashioned national policies on immigration. Norms set by internationalists will gradually replace national laws and standards. The world is becoming a single place. Trying to impede this unifying process is folly.

The term "transnationals" specifically refers to those working in and around international organizations and multinational corporations. More broadly, it indicates a cosmopolitan elite with a declining allegiance to the place where they live and work, and a feeling that nationalism and patriotism are part of the past.

To some extent, their worldview cuts across Democratic-Republican and liberal-conservative lines, and reinforces the other concerns that prevent immigration control: the desire for cheap labor and Hispanic votes. Old-line one-worlders and enthusiastic supporters of the United Nations hear the siren call. So do many academics, judges and journalists who attend international conferences and tend to adopt a common consciousness and world outlook.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
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To: kellynla
"John Fonte, of the Hudson Institute, notes that "transnationalism," like "global governance" and "multiculturalism," are presented by advocates as irresistible forces of history. Not so, he says. They are "ideological tools, championed by activist elites."
21 posted on 04/02/2006 8:11:56 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Paul C. Jesup
While the major urban cities burned, the smaller towns and cities would be fine because the armed citizens would shoot any people who try to riot and loot their property.

Before that the Army will be in charge and civilian disarmament will be ordered "for the good of everyone". Zones will be pacified and "weapons caches" found by the army in house to house cleansing operations. Ala Iraq.

22 posted on 04/02/2006 8:52:15 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: kellynla
"More broadly, it indicates a cosmopolitan elite with a declining allegiance to the place where they live and work, and a feeling that nationalism and patriotism are part of the past."

How quickly that tune will change if many countries became copies of a Zimbabwe or North Korea. Then, suddenly, Old Glry gets waved--" Um, yeah! We've always been patriotic!"

23 posted on 04/02/2006 8:57:17 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: kellynla
Statement: "'Transnationalists' Don't Take Immigration Reform Seriously"

Response: The attitude of the "Transnationalists"(Internationalist, Cosmopolitanism same thing) started circa WWI. Even earlier in Europe.

24 posted on 04/02/2006 8:57:17 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: bboop

"I keep thinking of this phrase in the Declaration of Independence --

"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR TO ABOLISH IT, and to institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such for, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

The government exists to guarantee our rights. It is therefore our servant.

The whole snotty-nosed bunch in the Senate need to go, if they do not work for us."


I nominate this for the best post of the day!!!


25 posted on 04/02/2006 8:59:44 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Frank T
"At the very least, it paves the way for a legitimate third party canditate."

Can you say President Hillary? The Democrats are praying for a 3rd party candidate so that Hillary can be elected with 40% (or less) of the vote. A new party isn't going to make any difference at this late date. We slept through the years when we could have done something about what "our betters" have planned for us short of a revolution. Who will the military side with? That's the only remaining question and my guess is the military was taken care of long ago except for some who will be "deserters." Anybody remember all those tests they were administering to the military 15 yrs. ago about would you fire on your fellow citizens?

26 posted on 04/02/2006 9:01:33 AM PDT by penowa
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To: antisocial

I thank you.


27 posted on 04/02/2006 9:33:16 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Uncle Fud
The two wings of the Perpetual Incumbency Party now believe that the system has been sufficiently rigged for their career security that they may so legislate without fear.

What makes it worse is that for the Congressmen who have been in there a while, getting kicked out of office isn't even a threat anymore. Most of them can make more money after they leave office as a lobbyist for foreign interests.

28 posted on 04/02/2006 9:34:10 AM PDT by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: Jack Black
Before that the Army will be in charge and civilian disarmament will be ordered "for the good of everyone".

The military does not have the athority to disarm the citizens, and they know it.

By federal law, the military cannot be used as a police force inside the U.S.

Note in New Orleans last fall, the military only fired in self defense, at people who fired guns at them first.

29 posted on 04/02/2006 9:40:10 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
The military does not have the athority to disarm the citizens, and they know it.

By federal law, the military cannot be used as a police force inside the U.S.

Federal laws can be repealed, voided by judges, ignored with impunity in times of emergency, have loophools cut into them, and be secretly broken.

As I recall the military was used as a police force at Waco, was it not? Given this example I see no reason to put much faith in the ability of federal laws to keep the military from operating in the USA.

IT DID HAPPEN HERE ALREADY!! NO ONE WAS EVER CALLED TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS ARMY OPERATION AGAINST US CITIZENS!!

30 posted on 04/02/2006 10:12:00 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

I seem to remember the ATF were driving those tanks.


31 posted on 04/02/2006 10:15:08 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Jack Black
The AFT and the Justice Department had control over those tanks.

If the Pentagon was in control, they would not have done that.

You seem to forget the most U.S. military soldiers are conservative. Also, a soldier by law does not have to follow an illegal order, like ordering them to illegally disarm their families and friends.

32 posted on 04/02/2006 10:21:40 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
While the major urban cities burned, the smaller towns and cities would be fine because the armed citizens would shoot any people who try to riot and loot their property.

God I hope you are right!!!!

I hear all the talk about standing up for what we believe, but I have my doubts.

In most cases today our Politicians are always the first to sell us out. To survive they only cover their own bottoms. There are a few US citizens percentage wise who would fight for what they believe, but aside from sharp tongues, and wits, most citizens of the US would lay down and roll over.

We have become a country who wants others to fights our fights for us, and we sit back and judge them. By in large we are fast to wave a flag and faster to judge our defenders.

I take my hat off to to the young men and women in law enforcement and the military. They have great strength to continue to defend the mealy mouths.

I would love to see all who march in defense of liberal ideas in America defends their homes and country. I want to see Ted Kennedy and Hillary lead the charge. We can't count on Bill he ran the first time.

33 posted on 04/02/2006 10:36:21 AM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Semper Fi)
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To: Uncle Fud
The two wings of the Perpetual Incumbency Party now believe that the system has been sufficiently rigged for their career security that they may so legislate without fear.

They, the internationalists, call their security, Homeland Security. The problem is that too many American soldiers, now veterans, were always told of a different vision of America, a vision of a place worth protecting by fighting and dying. The internationalists may be underestimating the strength of the ordinary American.

The Republican-Democrat elites advertise Homeland Security as protecting us from an external threat. What horse$hit. That’s the job of our armed forces. They tell us that we need it to weed out the Islamic terrorists within. Really! Just march the illegal’s back to the border when the local police catch them. Just fire the State Department. They are all bought off by the oil rich Arabs. We would be better off without a state Department. I would rather have a General or an Admiral explain foreign policy to sheiks. Commodore Perry did just fine by me with Japan. So did MacArhur. Homeland Security is really being formed to provide a huge federally controlled security apparatus. Don’t give me that crap that about not one person has yet been abused by it. When it starts it won’t be one abuse, it will be many.

The big question is when will the elites think they have the strength to use it? I don’t think the Republicans would try, yet. The Democrats would. They blew away Waco without any concern. They sent Elian back to Fidel without any resistance. Dead bodies littered Clinton’s path. He knows how to misuse police.

Who will be on the ordinary Americans side? Veterans? Local police? It could get messy. For those who pay little attention to history, keep in mind that American History is replete with forgotten insurrections and brutal suppression by the Federal and state governments.

Homeland Security is not what you are told it is. It is the beginning of an American Gestapo.

34 posted on 04/02/2006 10:47:07 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (From behind enemy lines)
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To: cgbg
All it would take is five key figures to bolt from both parties and create a new one.
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Name them.
35 posted on 04/02/2006 11:00:14 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Jarhead1957
I would love to see all who march in defense of liberal ideas in America defends their homes and country. I want to see Ted Kennedy and Hillary lead the charge. We can't count on Bill he ran the first time.

What the hell are you smoking? The Clintons would the charge to commit genocide against U.S. citizens.

36 posted on 04/02/2006 11:01:20 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: cgbg
All it would take is five key figures to bolt from both parties and create a new one.
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Name them.
37 posted on 04/02/2006 11:10:06 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Ooops forgot to put sarc at the end.


38 posted on 04/02/2006 11:16:00 AM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

Bump for later.


39 posted on 04/02/2006 11:21:56 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Jack Black

"The military does not have the athority to disarm the citizens, and they know it"

I thought the same about detainees of war and a day in court with a lawyer at one time.


40 posted on 04/02/2006 11:23:00 AM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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