Posted on 04/02/2006 9:57:25 AM PDT by Kokojmudd
What one says can only have traction with the validity of personal accountability behind it.
When I am wrong, I suffer the greater sting because my name is attached to what I have stated, therefore even when posting facetiously, I attempt to carefully consider the thrust of what I am posting.
Now consider this, This doctor "Doom" fellow is not the first to advocate the wholesale destruction of vast swaths of Humanity in the name of XXXX(pick your ideology). Again, a misuse of Science is advocated in the name of some type of evoltionary imperative. This is why evolutionary theory is looked upon as suspect by a great many religious folk. You can say this guy was a nut...but so was a certain mustached greating cards illustrator in the 1920's and thirties! Evolutionary theory may have some validity in describing the processes of life and its change over time, but it is constantly getting hijacked by those with more of a revolutionary anti-religious bent...who take the science into realms of thought it was never meant to go!
Certainly this fellow has pondered upon this. Then again...
"What one says can only have traction with the validity of personal accountability behind it."
Actually, the only thing that matters is the logic of the argument put forth.
"When I am wrong, I suffer the greater sting because my name is attached to what I have stated, therefore even when posting facetiously, I attempt to carefully consider the thrust of what I am posting."
Your personal guilt over faulty claims is irrelevant when examining your arguments.
"some type of evoltionary imperative"
Sorry meant to say "revolutionary imperative"!
Its not so much about guilt...just about accountability...regardless of all that Dr. "Doom"....real threat or just a nut?
"Its not so much about guilt...just about accountability..."
The arguments you make speak for themselves. Providing your real name (so you say) won't make them any better or worse.
He might be nuts, but he's using his credentials to prop up his nuttiness. And it seems, as usual, when "practical" scientists embarass the profession, the profession deals with it by pretending it didn't happen."
You noticed this as well. I was wondering how long before some members of the MMS (If you want to know what that acronym means, let me know and I'll freepmail it ) would show up.
For so-called 'guardians of science', you do get a lot of crickets chirping when nutcases like this guy pop up and tout their credentials to bolster their argument ( I can think of a few others where things get really quiet, like Dawkins and Peter Singer. Reminds me of the Muslim quiet after 9/11 ).
And, you'll notice the cynical irony of posting 'everybody be nice' or 'no personal attacks'on certain threads, and then no more than several posts later, there is the inevitable wisecrack about people of faith ( most of the time, Christian ).
At least one guy had the integrity to call this guy's flight of fantasy for what it was (Quark2005).
And if you haven't guessed, my level of disgust is pretty high. I think its pretty obvious who is making science look bad here. Some of those folks should engage in a little introspection instead of narcissism (although I doubt that capability exists).
Look I agree with you about the arguements part...I just use my own name when I put forth my own,....now about the subject at hand..."Dr Doom"...is this guy a nut and an afront to science or what...or is he a real threat? Could such a move to misuse science to kill billions really be feasible? What is your view?
The evo crowd is not restrained by this humility, and it is overly optimistic to expect its behavior to conform to conservative norms.
However, I'll buy your a beer if you ever come to the Carolinas, especially for one of our FReeps!
"The international soldier is almost always very much disliked by internationalists"
That is a very provocative statement...I shall have to ponder what Chesterton meant by it. Today's internationalists at the UN seem very much to want an international army...at least in the case of Darfur,...with the American military and treasury at the UN's disposal!
Scientific conferences are a lot like three ring circuses, except nerdier. :)
He likely wasn't the only guy giving a speech that day, or even at the same time. I could be wrong, though.
Jeepers, the inmates are running the asylum these days! And the writer of this piece doesn't seem all that healthy himself....
We do live in interesting times. It seems we are no longer able or willing simply to call an insane person insane, clear off his rocker, anymore. Instead, we give them "professional" awards -- e.g., "distinguished scientist" of the Texas Academy of Sciences. Man, are those guys and gals drinking the Kool-Aid or what??? Jeepers, it's embarrassing....
Go figure.
Thanks so much for writing, editor-surveyor, and for the ping!
I'm unsure why you've pinged me, but if you've stalked me enough to keep my screenname in mind for this, then surely you must realize that:
1) I quite firmly and stridently believe that there is a difference in kind between humans and the rest of the animal kingdom; and that the principle difference in kind is situated in our sentience.
2) In my view it's quite clear that humanity is the crowning achievement of evolution; indeed, that all of terrestrial evolution to date has been for the purpose of producing a species such as ours.
3) That not only has all of evolution to date been but a prelude to our emergence, but that moreover we will imminently rise altogether above evolution, as masters of earth's biological destiny.
In short, you would be extraordinarily hard-pressed to find anyone more 'anthropocentric' than me, not least amongst your smug theistic cohorts, who presumably view humanity as nothing but vile, sinful maggots defiling the sight of an angry God.
So, do me a favor, and leave me out of your little parodies in the future. Thanks!
He, Ward Churchill, and Peter Singer could serve as charter members of the faculty of the University of Hell.
People like the Professor mentioned have a tendency of telegraphing things they are involved in by talking around them in an arrogant fashion.
From the CDC website, here are symtoms of avian flu in humans--The reported symptoms of avian influenza in humans have ranged from typical influenza-like symptoms (e.g., fever, cough, sore throat, and muscle aches) to eye infections (conjunctivitis), pneumonia, acute respiratory distress, viral pneumonia, and other severe and life-threatening complications.
Please note the Professor's allusion to bird flu and recent publicity assoicated with bird flu's risk of mutating into an uncontrollable pandemic.
Couple this this "chemtrails" and the disappearance/deaths of numerous world-league microbiologists during the Clinton Administration as an interesting/unnerving conspiracy theory begins to emerge.
First of all, this is the path to madness. Do yourself a favor and make a u-turn! ;)
Second, the odd demise of multiple world-league microbiologists wasn't during the Clinton administration, but rather in the year following 9/11.
A more sure path to madness is to deny God.
Ummm.. That makes no sense at all. The path that you're on -- of chemtrails, staged deaths (or whatever you mean to imply), and engineered bird flu mass murder conspiracy -- has a 100% certainty of madness. So, you can't get any "more sure" than that. It also doesn't do much for your credibility or your cause, BTW.
Hear, hear!
Cheers!
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