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Is Tony Blair Becoming a Catholic?
NewsMax ^ | 4/2/06 | NewsMax

Posted on 04/02/2006 1:23:45 PM PDT by wagglebee

Persistent rumors that British Prime Minister Tony Blair, a Protestant, may convert to Roman Catholicism got a strong boost when the Times of London revealed Sunday that a Franciscan friar has been conducting Mass for the Blair family at Number 10 Downing St., the prime minister's official residence. Blair, nominally an Anglican, Britain's official religious denomination, has repeatedly denied reports that he plans to convert to Catholicism, his wife's religion. The Times notes that Blair participates in the Mass but does not take Holy Communion. Attending Mass has been a longtime practice of the prime minister. All of his four children share their mother's Catholicism, and the family has been quietly attending Mass not only at at home, but also at their official country residence, Chequers, since 2003, when they had to stop going to Westminster Cathedral and to other Catholic churches because of security concerns. Blair has previously denied he plans to convert to Catholicism, something that not too long ago would have been considered an outrage and a crime against the Queen, who is the official head of the Anglican Church. He says he only attends Catholic services so his family can worship together. There has never been a Catholic British prime minister, and Blair's wife, Cherie, is the first Downing St. spouse of a prime minister to be a member of the Catholic Church. Writing in the Guardian newspaper on Sept. 28, 2004, Francis Beckett and David Hencke noted that "Tony Blair today is effectively a Roman Catholic, though he has not yet, to our knowledge, been formally received into the church." Blair has been attending Mass with his family for years, and was once reprimanded for receiving Holy Communion by Cardinal Basil Hume. According to the Guardian, Blair attended Mass even before becoming prime minister. The Guardian reported that he regularly attended Mass at Westminster Cathedral, more often than not by himself, and always took Holy Communion. "The priests there knew him well," the Guardian wrote. "He would normally either attend the 9 a.m. Mass with his family, or the 5:30 p.m. Mass by himself." In 2003, when the Blairs visited the Vatican, they had a private meeting with Pope John Paul II. The pope's secretary, Archbishop Stanislaw Dziwisz, said a Mass just for the two of them, and both received Holy Communion from him. The Guardian, speculated that the pope would not have allowed that unless he was sure his visitor was, in his heart, a Roman Catholic. "The question of Tony's faith is dormant by decision," says a Catholic who knows the Blairs well, told the Guardian. "They have decided not to let news of his Catholicism break while Tony is prime minister."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blairandgod; britain; catholicism; tonyblair; uk
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I can't wait to see how the leftists will spin this.
1 posted on 04/02/2006 1:23:47 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: NYer; Salvation; Coleus; narses

Ping.


2 posted on 04/02/2006 1:32:25 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

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you could have made your own : )

I wouldn't have minded.


3 posted on 04/02/2006 1:35:09 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: wagglebee
Is Tony Blair Becoming a Catholic?

Who cares? As long as he doesn't become a muslim.....

FMCDH(BITS)

4 posted on 04/02/2006 1:35:15 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: nothingnew
Like Chuck?

5 posted on 04/02/2006 1:37:45 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Coleus

I've been driving for five hours, I'm too tired to play English teacher.


6 posted on 04/02/2006 1:38:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Punctuation is your friend.

Very interesting, thanks for posting.


7 posted on 04/02/2006 1:42:41 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: wagglebee

In 2003, when the Blairs visited the Vatican, they had a private meeting with Pope John Paul II. The pope's secretary, Archbishop Stanislaw Dziwisz, said a Mass just for the two of them, and both received Holy Communion from him. The Guardian, speculated that the pope would not have allowed that unless he was sure his visitor was, in his heart, a Roman Catholic.



"speculated?"


8 posted on 04/02/2006 1:47:16 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: wagglebee

has there ever been a pm who wasn't church of england?


9 posted on 04/02/2006 1:48:37 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: wagglebee

My guess is that he is a Catholic but will never admit it publicly while he is in office.


10 posted on 04/02/2006 1:48:53 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: wagglebee
Blair has previously denied he plans to convert to Catholicism, something that not too long ago would have been considered an outrage and a crime against the Queen, who is the official head of the Anglican Church.

Apparently this taboo is still in place or Blair would come out and admit his conversion, as seems to be the case.

11 posted on 04/02/2006 1:52:41 PM PDT by yuta250
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To: Siena Dreaming
My guess is that he is a Catholic but will never admit it publicly while he is in office.

Time for the Spanish Inquisition.


12 posted on 04/02/2006 1:56:06 PM PDT by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: wagglebee

kewl. Catholicism rocks.


13 posted on 04/02/2006 1:57:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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To: peyton randolph

Time for the Spanish Inquisition



or else the burning of Tony and Guy Fawkes in effigy!


14 posted on 04/02/2006 1:58:08 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: wagglebee

So what if he does?


15 posted on 04/02/2006 1:58:51 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Tevin
has there ever been a pm who wasn't church of england?

Disraeli comes to mind.

16 posted on 04/02/2006 1:59:59 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Brilliant

So what if he does?



that's a good question actually.


17 posted on 04/02/2006 2:00:38 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: buccaneer81

surely, disraeli was church of england. i really doubt england would have allowed a jew to be pm.


18 posted on 04/02/2006 2:01:38 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: buccaneer81

I think Disraeli started off Jewish. But didn't he become Church of England later on?


19 posted on 04/02/2006 2:01:48 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

I never read of any conversion. He was definitely Jewish when he became PM.


20 posted on 04/02/2006 2:02:47 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

if memory serves, disrael's mother was italian. maria something...


21 posted on 04/02/2006 2:03:25 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: Tevin
surely, disraeli was church of england. i really doubt england would have allowed a jew to be pm

Wrong, my FRiend. Google it. He was Jewish.

22 posted on 04/02/2006 2:03:58 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Harry Golden on Barry Goldwater: "I always knew that if a Jew ever got into the White House, he'd be an Episcopalian."


23 posted on 04/02/2006 2:05:54 PM PDT by Grut
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To: buccaneer81

nah, not even in the realm of possibility that britain would have allowed a practicing jew to be pm.


24 posted on 04/02/2006 2:05:55 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
Blair Catholic

the james "lizard face" carvill/bill clinton wonder boy is presently friends and allied with president bush and now wants to be a catholic as is his wife. I bet the democraps are seeing red. England is very big with contraception, abortion and population control I am wondering how he and his priest will reconcile these issues.

25 posted on 04/02/2006 2:06:04 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Tevin; Siena Dreaming
We were all sort of right...I think...

The son of Isaac, a Jewish Italian writer, Benjamin Disraeli had an Anglican upbringing after the age of twelve. With Jews excluded from Parliament until 1858, this enabled Disraeli to follow a career that would otherwise have been denied him. He was Britain's first, and so far only, Jewish Prime Minister

26 posted on 04/02/2006 2:06:31 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

according to nndb, he was "christian"; according to wikipedia he was baptized in the church of england at a young age.


27 posted on 04/02/2006 2:07:09 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: buccaneer81
I had thought he was Jewish, but these 2 URL's speak of him converting to christianity. I would love to know what the truth is:

http://www.sparknotes.com/biography/victoria/section7.rhtml

http://www.victorianweb.org/religion/jewschron.html

28 posted on 04/02/2006 2:11:33 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: buccaneer81
Looks like he may have had Jewish blood, but was a practicing christian.
29 posted on 04/02/2006 2:12:59 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Tevin

He was of Sephardic Jewish descent but baptised into the Church of England...


30 posted on 04/02/2006 2:14:35 PM PDT by Rosenkreutz
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To: wagglebee
I can't wait to see how the leftists will spin this.

If he does become Catholic,will he be a *real* Catholic or one of the Kennedy/Kerry/Pelosi types.

31 posted on 04/02/2006 2:14:43 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: wagglebee

Play English student.


32 posted on 04/02/2006 2:15:13 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Tevin
has there ever been a pm who wasn't church of england?

Benjamin Disraeli was Jewish.

Britain has never had a Catholic Prime Minister.

33 posted on 04/02/2006 2:15:26 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Siena Dreaming
Here's another that shows Disraeli's conversion at a young age, along with this family:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3686/is_199708/ai_n8761653

34 posted on 04/02/2006 2:19:26 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: buccaneer81; Tevin; Siena Dreaming
While D'Israeli was of Italian Jewish descent, he became an Anglican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disraeli

35 posted on 04/02/2006 2:19:39 PM PDT by ValenB4 ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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To: wagglebee; Coleus

Any chance he will close the abortion clinics? Probably not..


36 posted on 04/02/2006 2:19:39 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~¦ IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Coleus
I bet the democraps are seeing red.

Not really.In the eyes of the democRATS,there are many self-described "Catholics" who are "progressive" enough to understand that the Church's positions on abortion,homosexual marriage,etc are just so 19th Century.

37 posted on 04/02/2006 2:21:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: wagglebee

Its private family business in my opinion. Leave it for the tabloids.


38 posted on 04/02/2006 2:22:38 PM PDT by NTW64
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To: Siena Dreaming

disraeli's grave outside the chapel window of st. michaels in buckinghamshire

http://tinyurl.com/fgtuq


39 posted on 04/02/2006 2:23:30 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: wagglebee

Joseph Kennedy Sr. was the first Catholic PM.(just kidding)


40 posted on 04/02/2006 2:23:30 PM PDT by Frank_N_Sense (Chirac's DNA stain is on Hillary's blue dress?)
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To: wagglebee

Lock the car doors; there might be Catholics in the neighborhood.


41 posted on 04/02/2006 2:23:55 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Tevin
has there ever been a pm who wasn't church of england?

Yes, quite a few as I recall reading. Margaret Thatcher was Methodist. Benjamin Disraeli was Jewish.

42 posted on 04/02/2006 2:24:41 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: Tevin

looks like there never has been a pm who wasn't church of england.


43 posted on 04/02/2006 2:26:49 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: wagglebee

Welcome to the RC, Mr Blair! Hoorah!


44 posted on 04/02/2006 2:27:25 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
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To: stripes1776

oops, stand corrected. Thatch was indeed Methodist. thanks


45 posted on 04/02/2006 2:31:59 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: Frank_N_Sense
Joseph Kennedy Sr. was the first Catholic PM.(just kidding)

Are talking about the guy who Britain's first half-American Prime Minister booted out of the country for having publicly sided with Hitler and his pals?

46 posted on 04/02/2006 2:37:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: wagglebee

"I can't wait to see how the leftists will spin this."
They won't. They will just ignore it, if he converts. It will be a good step if he does.


47 posted on 04/02/2006 2:43:14 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer is the warrior we have been waiting for.We can trust him with our future.)
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To: Tevin

it appears harold wilson (pm in 60's and 70's) was the first non-anglican.


48 posted on 04/02/2006 2:47:19 PM PDT by Tevin
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To: maggief

LOL! My first thought!

Maybe if Tony becomes a Catholic, it will counterbalance Chuck's becoming a Muslim.


49 posted on 04/02/2006 2:47:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: Siena Dreaming

Disraeli was converted, more because of a dispute between his father and their rabbi than any real change of faith. If Disraeli had gone back to Judaism, he would not have been able to pursue his political career. Certainly he never denied nor disparaged his Jewish heritage.

In short, he was nominally Anglican, but I don't think we can tell what the faith of his heart was.


50 posted on 04/02/2006 2:51:45 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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