Posted on 04/02/2006 2:53:55 PM PDT by Crackingham
One day, Roger Mahony, then about 12, was working in his father's poultry processing plant in the San Fernando Valley when law enforcement agents searching for illegal immigrants raided the facility.
"I will never forget them bursting through the doors," Mahony recalled. "I was terrified by it. And I thought, 'These poor people; they're here making a living supporting their families.' . . . It had a very deep impact on me throughout the years." One of his father's workers was taken away.
Now Cardinal Roger Mahony, he leads the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. It is the largest Roman Catholic diocese in the country, and Mahony has recently placed himself and the church in the middle of the national debate on immigration.
On March 1, during Ash Wednesday Mass, the Hollywood-born clergyman attacked a House bill that would turn most people and institutions that aid illegal immigrants into felons. Calling it "blameful, vicious" legislation, Mahony vowed a campaign of civil disobedience in the archdiocese's 288 parishes if it becomes law.
Protest organizers and participants credited Mahony's fire from the pulpit -- and the educational campaign he initiated in January throughout his archdiocese -- with playing a critical role in organizing opposition.
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"People unfortunately always want to place the pro-life agenda in two boxes: abortion and euthanasia," he said, speaking of two issues opposed by most Republicans. "But our pro-life agenda encompasses a broad spectrum of issues, and [immigration] is one of them." Another aspect of that agenda is the church's opposition to capital punishment. In March 2005, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, for the first time in 25 years, launched a campaign against the death penalty -- another issue where it and many Republicans diverge.
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Isn't that what the Senate got rid of?
Sounds like the Cardinal's father wanted the cheaper, more pliable form of workers.
Please catch a clue, Your Eminence.
I don't believe a word Mahony Baloney says. Federal agents 50+ years ago tracking down and busting illegal aliens from Mexico...was the bracero program still in place or is he mixed up? What's the difference, at least the Feds were enforcing the law. Hey Mahony, why don't you raise he%% with the Mexican government and tell them to do something about making lives more liveable for their own people? Wouldn't that be the more Christian thing to do? Instead of having people travel dangerously to get here and then work illegally in a country that doesn't speak their language? What a blowhard. Agreed, it sounds more like he's trying to take the heat off his own profession of homosexuals and child molesters.
nice try. the Catholic Church also has a position on capitol punishment that most people who think themselves conservative like to criticize.
And they've had those positions since way before a few weaklings snuck into the priesthood.
Agreed. Don't forget the billions in narcodollars the Mexican economy also exists on. More misery and crime in the U.S. while the Mexican dope dealers profit and live large, while sharing with the government kingpins, too.
Again the MSM tries to confuse LEGAL immigrants with ILLEGAL immigrants
The article headline should read Catholic Church seeks amnesty for illegal acts by illegal aliens.
(isnt the church supposed to respect he laws of man with "unto ceasar" and all that?)
I've been calling him, "Bruce Baloney" for years.
Can anyone imagine, "Pope Baloney" the 1st!?
If the Cardinal wants to support immigration rights let him take the churches wealth and pay back the billions of dollars they have stolen from the taxpayers of this country. Otherwise he can shut the hell up and obey the law like we have to.
Claiming that Mahony is a synonym for the Church is a sign of ignorance.
Mahony makes me puke. That said, many Hispanics are very much opposed to abortion - but Mahony's precious Dem pols virtually force it upon them. Somehow, nobody has ever called Mahony to account for this. He honors (non Hispanic) pro-abortion pols at ever chance he gets. I wonder if the Hispanics have ever asked themselves why Mahony is so eager to get rid of their kids?
Think the taxpayers will reimburse those Catholics who sent their kids to Parochial schools but had to pay for public schools too?
The Cardinal is mandating that illegal immigrants, who are breaking the law everyday just by being in the United States, refuse to obey our laws. He's not a Catholic, is he?
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Before you ask, I been one since I was weeks old, and I'm one they tried it on. They need to finish their own business, before they have any crediability in any argument.
my sympathies, but the connection you allege between the Church's position on immigration and the sex abuse scandal is preposterous.
He is a disgusting piece of crap and I don't why the Pope leaves him in there.
He is only a Prince of the church.
Nationalism has always been a rival to the Catholic Church.
Why should they? I paid for my younger child's private schooling as a matter of choice why should the taxpayers' bear that burden?
well, how about expanding on this a little bit?
You are absolutely right. The reality of course is entirely different, but this is what the Dems have managed to make Hispanic voters believe (although fortunately, Cubans here in Florida do not accept this). I think Mexicans would make great immigrants - except that the Dems have grabbed them at the pass and converted them into raving entitlement-oriented leftists. Of course, with family from Boston, I recall that that the Dems did that with the Irish, too. Who do you think votes Dem in Boston, no matter how pro-abortion and anti-Catholic the party is?
In terms of Hispanics, this has been particularly bad because the Dems have the teachers unions behind them, and they have pushed through this stupid bilingual ed stuff, which essentially ensures that Hispanics will not learn English and will remain a separate group, owned by the Dems, forever.
As for the Dems and the blacks, that is too bizarre for words. I live in the South now, and the Democrats were always the party of slavery and the anti-integration party: but guess what all blacks down here are? Doesn't make any sense.
I'm also a Catholic who finds more reasons daily to reject the current leaders. They don't seem interested in anything but power. . . Mahoney was a CAUSE of the scandal and should certainly have been penalized.
No sympathies needed, I did not become a victim. as to Preposterous, I give that one to you.
My opinion has been called worse, I just have a little problem with the division between church and state when either gets into the others business.
I call him Phoney Baloney Mahoney.
Well it means competing for alligance, power etc. against another institution or belief which individuals develop an emotional tie to. Proto-nationalistic forces played a large role in the breakup of the once Universal Church in the West. These forces were sufficient that one would find Catholic monarchs allying with Protestants to fight other Catholic monarchs. Thirty Years War illustrated this perfectly.
I'm a Catholic, too. A Catholic clergyman in my area said that it is good that illegals are coming here because they are poor and hungry and we need to help them. He said that Jesus would have helped them.
Yes, I believe that those provisions have been removed.
More like the Catholic Church has always wanted to dominate nations.
I don't either. Sometimes Mahoney gets things right, but it's usually by coincidence.
Taj Mahoney?
LOL
I agree. One should not steal (no taxes, free schools) nor lie.
The church is promoting both here.
The Church does not consist of the clergy.
He must be related to the other dummy, Jerry Mahony. :-)
Give me a break
Yeah, I tried it when I was younger, but gave it up and went to the USMC.
No celibacy requirement in the Corps.
I agree with you 100 %, then the clergy might have a little credibility.
If Cardinal Roger Mahony is a Protestant, I stand corrected, and you have my heartfelt Apology. If not he is a Prince of the Church.
Sorry I had to take a minute and make sure I understood laity. I did, any your statement is the church consist of the people not the clergy.
Great throw the bums out!
It bothers me, too. I thought W was going to change the Clinton policy when he took office, but he has been as bad if not worse than Clinton in enforcing this. Did you read about the (fairly recent) wet-foot dry-foot incident here in Florida? We sent the Cubans back, although now apparently our government is trying to get them back to the US - fat chance. Too little too late.
Pyro, gotta run, you were fun. I looked at your home page, and see you describe your self as a Patriot, I never thought of myself as one, just a loyal American. Not bad for a person who has been around 67 years. Yeah I have grand daughters your age, they are supremely intelligent also, and great Catholics.
Look at my post and you may find a person who has as much or more catholic training than you. You and I absolutely differ on one thing, I believe in the separation of church and state.
I never was in a think tank, but when I was young, I did knock out a tank with a 3.5 rocket launcher.
Practice Humor, you may live to be an old fart like me.
Revoke the tax exempt status of the offending churches and give it to the illegals and watch them scream.
Interesting post but apparently misdirected to me.
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