Skip to comments.Schools punishing wavers of U.S. flag (yet patriotic shirt confiscated could incite violence)
Posted on 04/02/2006 5:35:52 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
HESPERIA While thousands of Hispanic students spent the week facing suspension for walking out of class, now Caucasian students around the country are being handed the same penalty for waving the American flag.
Flaunting the American flag is precisely what 13-year-old Cameron Miles did at Ranchero Middle School on Friday.
Wearing two shirts, one with the American flag, school officials said he removed the one displaying his patriotism and began waving it at a group of Hispanic students on campus.
His friends began to hoist him on their shoulders so he could be more predominately displayed when the proctor asked him to give her the shirt, district spokeswoman Debbie Baker said. She explained that he cant incite an already sensitive situation and he told her, This is bullshit and ran.
Baker and the boys mother, Denise Schroeder, said he received a one-day suspension not for wearing the shirt, but for defiance of direction given by a staff member and using profanity.
But thats all they agree on.
Schroeder said she was never told by school officials her son had removed his patriotic shirt. She said he was told the shirt needed to be confiscated because him simply wearing it on campus could incite violence.
My son just wanted to show his classmates that he had pride for his country. Why is this a symbol that incites violence but the Mexican flag is not? Schroeder asked. My brother is in the Navy. Weve been wearing patriotic shirts for years. Rancheros colors are even red and white. Where are we going to draw the line with what they can and cannot wear?
Baker added that if it was a Hispanic student waving the Mexican flag at students to cause a problem, school officials would have taken the same action.
We still live in America and should be proud of the flag that represents our country. But using it as a symbol to incite violence cannot be tolerated, Baker said.
To some, HR 4377 is becoming secondary to controversy over displays of the American and Mexican flags.
I saw people I know from school waving the Mexican flag. If theyre so proud of that country they should go back there. But this is where they want to be., America. Thats the flag they need to be flaunting. How backwards is that? asked 17 year-old Mike Brown of Victorville.
At a high school in Pico Rivera a student hung the American flag upside in protest. The California flag was stolen and replaced by a Mexican flag, which the protesters hung above the American flag according to reports by the Associated Press.
Another report states that on Monday a Jurupa Valley High School senior started organizing a pro-America rally. The event would include the waving of the American flag to help demonstrate support for HR 4377 bill.
The organizer, 17-year-old Josh Denhalter, was suspended March 30, for handing out some 300 fliers to promote the rally.
In Colorado, students from Skyline High School walked out of class Friday mor ning to protest the school administration's new policy banning the carrying or wearing of American and Mexican flags. According to reports from the Rocky Mountain News, most of the 100 students were protesting that American flags were included in the ban. The ban likely will be short-lived, Principal Tom Stumpf stated.
Also on Friday, 17-year old David Guzman of Victorville left his job at the Victor Valley Mall and discovered all his patriotic flags and ribbons once proudly displayed on his car were stolen and the cars antennae was broken in half where a small U.S. flag hung just hours earlier.
I dont know who did it or why. But Ive had them on my car since 9/11 and it wasnt until now that anyone messed with them. Im Mexican. All of this is embarrassing to me and my family, Guzman said of the nationwide protests. I dont want people looking at me or my sister like were one of those idiots protesting for a getout-of-jail-free card.
Guzman said many in his family have reached the boiling point and he would march in a pro-HR 4377 protest if one were organized in a legal manner.
I think theres a lot of us who just want to be able to have a voice, too, Guzman said. These protesters dont speak for all Mexicans. I want people to understand that.
Turned out very interesting devolve. It certainly makes you stop and watch to see what comes next!
I started grade school in the mid seventies. We always said the Pledge.
I know you are smarter then this but I'll explain it for the rest of the class...
Mexico never kicked anyone's ass in a war, The Star and Stripes has been carried into battle by ass kicking Americans since the days of the revolutionary war.
Why just the sight of American soldiers under arms and wearing the Star and Stripes on sleeves of their uniforms is enough to make the average illegal wet themselves.
Therefore to prevent ultra-violent Mexican gangs from having spaz attacks and sporadic fits of rage, Americans have to hide the symbol of our benign dominance over lesser nations and those peoples that don't want anything from us but a free ride.
A REAL immigrant. Not one of those pretend, suck on the Americans teat and send all my money to my home country.
Enough is enough!!
This is America!
If the illegals love Mexico and their flag so much, then let them get their butts back to Mexico, take their Christmas colors with them and don't let the door hit them in the butt on the way out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This pc garbage is getting beyond ridiculous!
My fifth grade daughter still says the Pledge in school.
Beivenidos a Los Estados del Norte Departmento del Mexico canal!
There are some mighty sick folks out there.
The fact is that the illegals see this as an extension of Mexico and we saw tens of thousands of them in LA waving the Mexican flag. Reconquista? Last week Drudge had a Hispanic on his 50 state radio broadcast that talked about taking back the U.S. "a few houses and a few blocks at a time." By the way, I recently posted a famous quote that is relevant to this. For any who missed it I'd be glad to cite it again.
Upon reading the article it appears they address your concern.
It says something about how if it was someone else waiving the Mexican flag at other students they would have the same issue with it.
It sounds like the kid is a little punk who's not aruging against illegal immigration but just flaunting the American flag at anyone who is hispanic.
Please please read the article before you post.
From the article...
"Baker added that if it was a Hispanic student waving the Mexican flag at students to cause a problem, school officials would have taken the same action."
And, what, pray tell, is wrong with "flaunting" the American Flag??? Especially, when illegals are waving and flaunting the Mexican flag all over the place?
I don't get when/why it is PC to have OUR flag in our own country!
Yes, please post it or send it directly to me by private message. Thanks!
My kids say the Pledge every day here in Texas.
The First Amendment protects the right of citizens to express themselves in a variety of ways. Public school students, as young citizens, may engage in many modes of expression from the words they speak to the ideas they write and even the clothes they wear.
Students can engage in political speech, which is considered the type of speech at the core of the First Amendment. The Founding Fathers considered such speech essential to the development of a constitutional democracy. The U.S. Supreme Court spelled out those rights in a case concerning public school students who spoke out on a major political issue of their time the Vietnam War.
"In the first place we should insist that the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equity with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming an American and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any flag of a nation to which we are hostile. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." Theodore Roosevelt in a letter to the American Defense Society in 1919. I truly believe that this very prophetic and appropriate statement by TR is the FINAL answer to the illegal controversy with all the foreign flag waving and the other socio-economic disasters that are swamping us in America.