Posted on 04/03/2006 1:21:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON - Ask for a pillow and blanket to help get through a long flight and you may be out of luck. Or you may be able to buy a "comfort package" from Air Canada for $2.
Like to check your luggage curbside? That could cost up to $3 a bag.
Airlines are starting to charge for many services that once were free — such as assigned seating, paper tickets and blankets.
Air travelers who don't fly often may be in for some unpleasant surprises when they reach the airport this summer.
"They're going to be confused and they're going to be somewhat upset," said Kevin Mitchell, president of the Business Travelers Coalition. "Is it going to stop them from flying? No."
Intense competition from low-fare airlines along with high jet-fuel prices have led many established carriers to cut back or charge passengers for amenities.
Many airlines no longer serve meals on flights, instead charging for snack boxes and sandwiches.
Sharon Ansara, a government supervisor from El Paso, Texas, flew an American Airlines flight from Dallas to Washington Monday morning.
"We didn't even get peanuts," she said after the 2-1/2 hour flight. "They offered us a snack pack for $4. It stinks."
American spokesman Tim Wagner said that passengers have made it clear that their first priority in buying an airline ticket is price. The company offers a la carte services — such as snack packs — for those willing to pay for them.
Air Canada, which recently emerged from bankruptcy, decided against eliminating pillows and blankets, as some airlines have done. Instead, the airline decided to give passengers the choice of buying an inflatable pillow and a light fleece blanket for $2, according to spokeswoman Isabelle Arthur.
There are limits to what passengers will pay for.
American Eagle, which flies commuter flights for American, experimented in January with charging passengers for soft drinks.
"They evaluated customer response," Wagner said. "The customer response was, 'No, we don't want to pay $1 for a soft drink.'" The test ended, he said.
Some services once taken for granted are now viewed as amenities as the burden of ticketing now falls on the passenger with the home computer instead of airline employees.
Talking to an airline reservation agent instead of booking a ticket on the Internet will add $5 or $10 to the price of a ticket. A paper ticket instead of a computer-generated one will cost $20 or $30 for a domestic flight.
Passengers are also finding that the limits on baggage size and weight are lower, and that airlines are enforcing them. For most airlines, passengers are charged at least $25 for a bag that weighs more than 50 pounds. A third checked bag will cost $80 on many airlines.
Some airlines are now even charging to reserve seats with extra legroom.
United Airlines charges $24-$99 to sit in the Economy Plus section, which has five extra inches of leg room.
Some international carriers also charge for aisle or bulkhead seats. Northwest Airlines in March began charging $15 for exit rows some forward aisle seats.
Carol Mundt, a retiree who lives in the Washington area, travels frequently for visits and vacations. She heard about Northwest's new seat assignment charges.
"I was appalled that they would charge me for my aisle seat," she said while waiting to pick up a friend at Washington's Reagan National Airport.
Northwest spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch said Northwest has to be able to compete against low-cost airlines like Southwest, which doesn't assign seats at all.
The a la carte pricing approach is working for Southwest, which carried more people in the U.S. than any other airline. With the exception of overweight and oversize bags, Southwest doesn't charge for its services.
A soft drink, a bag of pretzels and a changed ticket don't cost extra, said Southwest spokesman Ed Stewart.
But Southwest doesn't offer services such as assigned seating or keeping an eye on an unaccompanied child.
Continental Airlines is one of the few that still offers hot meals on domestic flights.
Sandy Gorie, 45, a real estate project manager, lives in Cleveland and takes Continental to Washington on Monday mornings and returns on Friday nights.
"I've been doing this since November and my Continental experience has been great," she said.
They will keep charging a buck here, three there and wonder why people are getting nastier as they fly. Add in the reports that they are more prone to lose bags and run behind schedule, and you have a perfect storm forming.
This story is about 6 months old.
They were never free. These fees were included in the price of tickets. How fast do you think they'll waive the barf bag fee when little Billy starts spewing across three rows?
"We didn't even get peanuts," she said after the 2-1/2 hour flight. "They offered us a snack pack for $4. It stinks."
Whaaa! Stop at a Quickee-Mart on the way to the airport and fill your purse with peanuts at 2 packs for 99 cents. For 4 bucks you could stop at Subway!
$2.00 to go to the bathroom. It's coming!
"We didn't even get peanuts," she said after the 2-1/2 hour flight. "They offered us a snack pack for $4. It stinks."
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Really sucks, doesn't it? I take my own food now. Much better quality and I get what I want, when I want it. :-)
The airlines respond to the market. My guess is that people are going to want to fly Continental...
They will keep charging a buck here, three there and wonder why people are getting nastier as they fly.
The ideal scenario would be for large numbers of these people to simply stop flying. It wasn't all that long ago that airline travel was considered a luxury. Maybe it needs to become a luxury once again.
On the other hand, I learned to hate flying long before 9-11-2001. It became much worse after that, and I only fly when it isn't feasible to drive. For me that is in an emergency or if the drive is longer than 12 hours. I also think if not for my wife, that 12 hour limit might stretch a bit more. She just isn't long on driving.
Cost is a factor, but much more, I simply hate the atmosphere at airports these days.
Then I expect a refund of $10 per minute when the flight is late!
(along the lines of a Seinfeld episode w/George)
I'd call the United Nations about that! Clear violation of human rights! Worse than the starvation in Africa!
"We didn't even get peanuts," she said after the 2-1/2 hour flight. "They offered us a snack pack for $4. It stinks."
She didnt pay for the ticket if she is on govt business..
It does my heart good to see government drones getting tweaked.
That would be a great moneymaker!
Leave one free bathroom back in steerage class, and charge for all the others.
You ought to register your intellectual property before someone else steals it.
Pack a lunch and bring a jacket even if the weather on the ground is warm.
Maybe there is a business here: sell your food for just under what the flight attendants are charging. Sort of like the guy at the front of Home Depot selling hot dogs.
"United Airlines charges $24-$99 to sit in the Economy Plus section, which has five extra inches of leg room."
I'd pay somewhere in that range for the extra space, given the choice, at least for longer flights (anything over 2 hours, and maybe even then). That's my 6'3" on the subject.
My problem with flying is getting squished in a seat that is only comfortable if you are under 5 ft tall and only weigh about 90 lbs....
One to stand, two to sit, and toilet paper is an extra two dollars. (Basic idea was from the movie PCU.)
One pair of "Depends" 50 cents?
TSA is above the law of common decency...to anyone but arab men between the ages of 18 and 45 that is...
If I gotta fly there.....I aint going...
Exactly! Tip: be sure to use lots of fragrant spices in your lunch/dinner (ground cumin, 5-spice powder, fresh thyme, fresh ground allspice and so forth). Improves the cabin atmosphere enormously.
Either pay 50 cents for the depends or 25 dollars for the seat cleaning bill.
Is that correct? Southwest has the highest domestic volume??? Dang.
They won't waive the barf bag fee.
They'll just charge each passanger in those three rows a Vomit Protection Fee. ;-)
"United Airlines charges $24-$99 to sit in the Economy Plus section, which has five extra inches of leg room."
Here's a tip if you're flying to Europe. British Air has something called Premium Economy, big comfy chair with a foot-rest in a separate cabin from economy. Same meal and service as economy. It ranges about $200 to $500 over the cost of an economy class ticket, depending upon time of year and your departure city. Best way to get to Europe comfortably without breaking the bank.
Amenities?? They have AMENITIES???
The next time I fly to Europe I will gladly pay extra for an aisle seat. 9 hours from Atlanta to Paris was miserable next to the window!
Incidentally, when I flew from Paris to Kiev on a Ukrainian carrier I ordered a beer. When I reached for my wallet I was shocked to learn that beer was free! I wasn't expecting this.
LOL...set the tone with some shrimp cocktail, then put on a lobster bib, spread some newspaper over your tray-table, and then bring out a big Dungeness crab and work it over for an hour or two. "Excuse me, do they have any of those little shell-cracker plier-things in First Class?"
The call button is soon to be replaced with a bill slot/credit card reader.
When are they going to get the movie theater attitude: Outside food and drink is strictly forbidden. Violators will be made to walk the plank.
I'm waiting for airlines to start packing two people in per seat. $50 extra for the top spot. $100 extra for an attractive seatmate of the appropriate sex.
Except I would get seated next to the guy who refuses to pay for the bathroom and instead brings on his own Depends !!!
Okay folks, were passing around a bucket to take up a collection to lower the landing gear.
I do not believe that is right.
Southwest is highest.
Here is the link.
http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2006/bts013_06/html/bts013_06.html#table_01
There's definitely a market out there for that kind of thing -- it's just matter of figuring out how much revenue you can get if you eliminate the steerage section and focus entirely on first-class travelers.
"We didn't even get peanuts," she said after the 2-1/2 hour flight. "They offered us a snack pack for $4. It stinks
Is it any wander Americans are overweight. This lady is bitching because she had to go 2 1/2 hours without food......my God.........is that all Americans live for? People can't even sit through a movie or sporting event without stuffing their faces.......gross!
Could almost hear the drools...heh heh heh.
"My guess is that people are going to want to fly Continental"
Especially if they start charging for bathrooms. Incontinental could cost you a fortune.
Attention skycaps, there goes your dollar per bag tip.
Attention skycaps, there goes your dollar per bag tip.
That's why the airlines did this. They realized that the skycaps, mostly middle-aged black guys [in my experience] were actually making a decent living, and decided that was a profit center to be tapped.
Nightly Business Report ran with this story tonight. They said some airlines were going to start charging more fore isle seats.
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