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'Ex-gay' group booted from conference
worldnetdaily ^ | April 4, 2006 | unknown

Posted on 04/04/2006 5:20:04 AM PDT by ovrtaxt


WND


'Ex-gay' group booted from conference

School counselors objected to materials at exhibit


Posted: April 4, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A group that believes people with same-sex attractions can abandon homosexuality was evicted from the Virginia Schools Counselors Association annual convention.

PFOX, Parents and Friends of Ex-gays and Gays, said school counselors at the event in Richmond, Va., last week objected to some of its materials and insisted the group leave.

Blogger Warren Throckmorton said PFOX was registered officially as an exhibitor at the conference, held at the Holiday Inn Select Thursday and Friday.

But the counselors association's current president, Tammy Davis, and past-president, Carol Kaffenberger, requested to meet PFOX Director Regina Griggs and insisted the group and its members had to leave.

Griggs said that after some discussion, the school counselors said two of PFOX's brochures were OK, one on bullying and another on teens. But the group, nevertheless, was told to leave because offering only two brochures would not be worth their time.

At that point, the hotel staff intervened and demanded the PFOX people leave, Throckmorton said.

One of the staff began to dismantle the table and police were called in.

PFOX members said they were willing to remove anything deemed offensive but were ushered out anyway.

One of the books the counselors didn't like was a title by leading reparative-therapy researcher Joseph Nicolosi. Another was a story of a transgendered person who warns against sex-change surgery.

Last year, the National Parent-Teacher Association refused PFOX's request to exhibit at its annual convention while welcoming a pro-homosexual activist organization – even inviting it to present a workshop.

PFOX had its application to exhibit rejected because it supports former homosexuals. The National PTA, however, sought the attendance of Parents, Families and Friends of Gays, a pro-homosexual advocacy group that promotes in same-sex marriage.

The National PTA also has allowed "It's Elementary," the homosexual-affirming video for schoolchildren, to exhibit at its conference for the previous three years.

Also last year, PFOX won a decision against the Montgomery County School Board in Maryland, halting the implementation of a sex-education curriculum that would have promoted gay religious organizations over ex-gay ministries and traditional religions.

The judge, in writing his decision, criticized the curriculum for engaging in "viewpoint discrimination" by excluding ex-gay material. The school board also had approved materials published by homosexual advocacy groups that positively portray homosexuality while making negative references to ex-gays.

"The National PTA is discriminating against a class of students and that is just wrong," Griggs said at the time.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: agenda; exgays; gayrights; homosexual; homosexualagenda; hypocrisy; multicultural; pfox; politicalcorrectness; psychology; pta; schoolcounselors
Multicultural political correctness only works one way it seems.

I guess some pigs are more equal than others.

1 posted on 04/04/2006 5:20:09 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt

The intolerant Tolerant Left...


2 posted on 04/04/2006 5:26:09 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (CODE PINK has blood on their hands and they can never, never wash it off)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Sounds like a Christian convert in Afghanistan.


3 posted on 04/04/2006 5:30:04 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: ovrtaxt
We can only promote the lifestyle of death and damnation, we can't promote hope of getting out of it.
4 posted on 04/04/2006 5:31:53 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: ovrtaxt

Doesn't surprise me, but I thought the court case that went in PFOX favor was a good sign. This deal is war without end...


5 posted on 04/04/2006 5:35:36 AM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: Always Right
We can only promote the lifestyle of death and damnation, we can't promote hope the actually possibility of getting out of it.
6 posted on 04/04/2006 5:36:29 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Always Right

That would contradict the lie that people are born gay. Can't have that!


7 posted on 04/04/2006 5:36:52 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: ovrtaxt

It's all in the agenda.


8 posted on 04/04/2006 5:39:53 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: ovrtaxt

Email the VA School Counselors Assn and tell them to stop the CENSORSHIP of the truth.

vsca@vsca.org


9 posted on 04/04/2006 5:41:38 AM PDT by Gopher Broke (I would rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Teddy Kennedy)
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To: ovrtaxt

Can anyone doubt that the Teacher's unions are just a bunch of communists hell bent on the destruction of America?


10 posted on 04/04/2006 5:42:53 AM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: ovrtaxt
Another was a story of a transgendered person who warns against sex-change surgery.


11 posted on 04/04/2006 5:43:41 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: little jeremiah; scripter; DirtyHarryY2K; DBeers

I wonder when the turd burglars will try to legalize stoning Christians to death?


12 posted on 04/04/2006 5:54:07 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here over ten years, in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: ovrtaxt

I'm really tolerant, and gee I sure hope your tolerance lines up with my tolerance. Otherwise, get your arse out of my conference.


13 posted on 04/04/2006 5:58:36 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: ovrtaxt

Waiting for the ACLU to get involved on free speech grounds...


14 posted on 04/04/2006 6:02:37 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: ovrtaxt

I actually think the relationship between homosexuality and public education has been around for many years. Thinking back to when I was in elementary school (mid 1970's), I now realize that my 3rd and 5th grade teachers were card-carrying lesbos who lived together. Luckily, at that age, I was too young to draw the conclusion and gay themed material hadn't made it into the teaching syllabus yet.


15 posted on 04/04/2006 6:15:12 AM PDT by Niteranger68 ("Only 4 out of 3 Democrats actually vote.")
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To: Unam Sanctam
Waiting for the ACLU to get involved on free speech grounds...

The ACLU will defend PFOX and its right of free speech up to the Supreme Court level if necessary. Sarc

16 posted on 04/04/2006 7:09:48 AM PDT by bulldozer
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To: FormerLib

First they have to shut up everyone who disagrees with them, as evidenced in the article, and then shut up all whose disagreement is founded on religion based morality (which includes every religion). Step by step.


17 posted on 04/04/2006 8:23:21 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Does that mean all ex-drinkers and ex-drug users will be banned from AA and substance abuse treatment groups?


18 posted on 04/04/2006 10:09:17 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: rfreedom4u

Just from the school counselor conferences.


19 posted on 04/04/2006 10:13:16 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Doctor Raoul
The intolerant Tolerant Left...

Rather agenda driven looneys exploiting the fear of the once proud American mainstream to challenge anything, however wrongheaded and self-destructive, if it may get them labelled as "bigoted," or unenlightened.

We will wake up, very, very soon, or you can kiss everything that once made America recognizable as a shining achievement of Western culture, good-bye.

William Flax

20 posted on 04/04/2006 10:17:22 AM PDT by Ohioan
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21 posted on 04/04/2006 5:01:16 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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To: ovrtaxt
The most intolerant among us, attempting to force all to tolerate the intolerable!


BTW, I just watched "The Chronicles of Narnia" It was awesome!! If anyone hasn't seen it, do. It is available on DVD now, and the parallels to Christianity are unmistakable, which is why the left hates it.

Also on sale at none other than Walmart today, was Brokebutt. Might I suggest we out purchase the sale of that, by buying the DVD of Narnia? Not that it won't happen anyway, but every dvd sold will show you can be sure! And Narnia is well worth the purchase price, and the time to watch it! (off topic I know, and I apologize)
22 posted on 04/04/2006 7:39:00 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: Gopher Broke; little jeremiah; scripter; DirtyHarryY2K; DBeers; ovrtaxt; Unam Sanctam; RacerF150; ..
Hey Everybody,

I have posted before and I am worried I am going to start sounding like a broken record. I am a man who has dealt with some issues around homosexuality, so I know from whence I speak.

I just got back from a counseling session tonight. I have posted about my therapy in other threads. By some act of an incredibly merciful God, I found the best counselor in the world for dealing with these issues (there are about three professional counselors in the U.S. who deal with homosexuality who are worth anything, that I know of). How did it work for me? This Saturday I will be shopping for an engagement ring and going to ask the sweetest, most wonderful woman in the world to marry me. I would never have reached this day if it wasn't for the counseling sessions I went to for the past three years. Now my counseling sessions are winding down. I'll probably stop soon. Job done.

It is hard to describe what I feel when I read articles like this, about people who prevent people who struggle with homosexuality from obtaining information about getting help. Great sadness, followed by anger.

There is so much I can say. First I want to thank you good people for being concerned about this issue. At the end of the day, a "fixed" homosexual orientation only affects 2 or 3 percent of the population, so most people don't think about it too deeply. They just believe what they see on T.V. So the people on this thread at least have the ability or care enough to look beyond the surface. It's encouraging to me that you guys are out there.

Does anyone see the self-fulfilling prophecy in all this? Counselors aren't allowed access to information, so they don't learn how to help people struggling with homosexuality, so the strugglers don't get good help and remain stuck. This becomes the proof that homosexuality is "inborn" and can't be changed! Unbelievable.
23 posted on 04/04/2006 10:36:21 PM PDT by SoulMan
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To: SoulMan

That's an awesome testimony! I have had similar experience- not so much with homosexuality, but with sexual addiction in general. I ended up actually having a salvation experience many years ago, and now I help others.

Pop culture is still pretty much owned by people like the control freaks in this article, but individuals like us can overtake it in time. Have a blessed marriage- it's a blast! Been married 13 years myself. :)


24 posted on 04/05/2006 5:08:09 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: SoulMan
Does anyone see the self-fulfilling prophecy in all this? Counselors aren't allowed access to information, so they don't learn how to help people struggling with homosexuality, so the strugglers don't get good help and remain stuck. This becomes the proof that homosexuality is "inborn" and can't be changed! Unbelievable.
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And the counselors who do seek out information and do try to learn more are shunned by their colleagues.

Professionals care MORE about the opinion of their other professionals than they do about their clients or patients. And,,,that's the truth.
25 posted on 04/05/2006 5:16:03 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: ovrtaxt

My question to all:

So...what is your excuse for sending your precious children to government schools?

There are really only a few valid excuses. You are so poor, so dysfunctional, or so ignorant that homeschooling or private schooling is impossible. And,,,if you didn't send your child to the government assigned indoctrination camp, armed police would soon be at your door.


26 posted on 04/05/2006 5:19:03 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: ovrtaxt

One more thing:

It is time that those who homeschool or privately school their children STOP defending their decision!

It is time that we ask those who government school, " WHY on earth are you doing this to your children?!". It is time that those using government schools squirm. They should be the people with the explanations.


27 posted on 04/05/2006 5:21:19 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

lol preach it!

My kids are homeschooled- in fact, they finished out their year a few weeks ago.


28 posted on 04/05/2006 5:22:42 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: SoulMan
Congratulations!!! And thank youso much for telling us about this. It is such a blessing to know that people are getting cured and they are able to live fulfilling lives. (I mean to know first hand)

May God bless you and your soon to be fiance abundantly in all ways.

29 posted on 04/05/2006 6:38:18 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: SoulMan

BTTT for your comments.

The truth set people free; lies enslave. It's that simple.


30 posted on 04/05/2006 8:17:21 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: SoulMan

I think it is even more incidious.

I think the homoadvocates are essentially trying to arrest the normal devopment of children to never leave the "girls are icky" stage.

If anything the homosexual "clubs" approved by the PTA and promoted by GLSEN should be treated the same as any other child sex solicitation group. (see the arrests of travel agencies to asia for such sex tourism)


31 posted on 04/05/2006 8:46:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ovrtaxt
I'm sure the ACLU will be filing suit in support of PFOX post-haste. /sarc

The homo-left recognizes the effectiveness of the Ex-gay movement and will do whatever it takes to marginalize and destroy them.

I Do Exist
32 posted on 04/05/2006 8:52:18 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals regardless of their party affiliation.)
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