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The Resurrection of Art: Moving on from Dada
Breakpoint with Charles Colson ^
| April 4, 2006
| Charles Colson
Posted on 04/04/2006 7:36:28 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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To: Mr. Silverback
For those curious: Tada...! Dadaism
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posted on
04/04/2006 10:04:10 AM PDT
by
sully777
(wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I totally agree with you. In the beginning, it was fun! And never meant to be taken seriously. When fools started to think they could elevate themselves by seeing some imaginary meaning in it did it really become a pain in the @$$. Like the Oldenburgs, totally! Who really needs a giant lumpy melted ice cream cone in the middle of the park? But the original dadaists, even if they were "anti-artists" had a really cool visual style mixed with humor that was quite appealing. I think it had a positive influence on graphic design, even if a negative one on "fine art".
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posted on
04/04/2006 11:28:34 AM PDT
by
To Hell With Poverty
("This is our Common and we're going to stay here until we leave!" - Random Boston Commie)
To: Mr. Silverback
I think the art elites are easily entertained.
To: NaughtiusMaximus
Well, I refuse to make room for dada. :-)
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posted on
04/04/2006 12:07:52 PM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
("I was in such a hurry to climb that tree, I punched a squirrel.")
To: sully777
I'm more partial to surrealism. Dream-like imagery and the sensations of the subconscious are fascinating in a way Dada only hinted at.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
04/04/2006 1:48:29 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Mr. Silverback
I have four criteria for what I consider to be great art. They have seldom led me wrong.
- It must be a work of great craft. If the artist cannot manipulate the medium to intended effect, it is not great art.
- It must be entirely original. Good retreads are not great art.
- It must forever change the way the viewer experiences the world. Great art opens up one's perceptions to new ideas and ways of "seeing."
- It must teach something new or appear different every time you interact with it.
This set of criteria obviously disqualify the vast bulk of what we see as "modern art," but is in no way restrictive. As you will see in this link,
this qualifies as great art.
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posted on
04/04/2006 2:27:05 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: Carry_Okie
I studied religious art while in seminary. The thesis was that art reaches its highest form when it inspires the observer to experience the numena, the ethereal. Seems like so much drivel to me today.
I don-t know anything about art but I know what I like.
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posted on
04/04/2006 8:25:03 PM PDT
by
Louis Foxwell
(Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
To: Mr. Silverback
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posted on
04/04/2006 8:31:46 PM PDT
by
kanawa
(My dog ate my tagline)
To: Mr. Silverback
To: goldstategop
Metamorphosis of Narcissus by Salvador Dali (1937)
La muchacha en la ventana by Salvador Dali (1925)
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posted on
04/04/2006 11:06:51 PM PDT
by
sully777
(wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
To: r9etb
Some nihilistic artists are and were capable of producing fine works of art, including Picasso, Duchamp and Man Ray. Much of their output was puzzling at best, but one is astonished at the rare gems, for example Duchamp's "Nude Descending a Staircase." If Duchamp had never joined any group or uttered any nonsensical opinions, the work would be seen today for what it is: a beautiful expression of man's longing for the sublime. Did Duchamp have an ulterior motive for the piece? Probably. And so we dismiss it as a grand con. The painting is weighed down by its century.
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posted on
04/04/2006 11:13:36 PM PDT
by
ashtanga
To: goldstategop
Metamorphosis and other Dali pieces seemed to have influenced Gerald Scarfe, IMO. Scarfe was used for Pink Floyd's The Wall. Here is some of his work. If you've seen the movie, the artwork is astounding. He also helped Disney bring the story of Hercules to life.
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posted on
04/05/2006 12:15:11 AM PDT
by
sully777
(wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
To: conservativepoet
You're welcome, of course.
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posted on
04/05/2006 6:41:41 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
("I was in such a hurry to climb that tree, I punched a squirrel.")
To: sully777
I don't know why that one qualifies as dada...I mean, it looks like a real painting. :-)
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posted on
04/05/2006 6:53:47 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
("I was in such a hurry to climb that tree, I punched a squirrel.")
To: Mr. Silverback
In 1925 an American painter made the most significant statement of his own "ism". Working without the benefit of copying the "masters", this painter made compositions from his ideas about the great American western landscape.
MAYNARD DIXON "CLOUD WORLD"
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posted on
04/05/2006 7:07:10 AM PDT
by
Utah Binger
(Southern Utah, where the world comes to see America!)
To: Mr. Silverback
I was there yesterday. We got there just in time to 'experience' an electronic piano concert. What a waste of seven or eight baby grands! They (he?) could have done
Rhapsody in Blue but, no. I escaped this cacophony by heading into the exhibit area. I have a $20 landscape painting over the monitor which holds more interest for me than anything I saw in there.
Thankfully, there's also a French Impressionist exhibit which salvaged this foray into the arts.
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posted on
04/05/2006 8:35:30 AM PDT
by
pa_dweller
(South of the border - a phrase fast losing its meaning)
To: Liz; Joe 6-pack; woofie; vannrox; giotto; iceskater; Conspiracy Guy; Dolphy; Intolerant in NJ; ...
Art ping!
Let Republicanprofessor, me or woofie know if you want on or off the art ping list.
A thread with a religious theme, but pertinent.
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posted on
04/05/2006 8:49:09 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Delicacy, precision, force)
To: Mr. Silverback
Wife (clutching her chest in exhileration): "His struggle is man's struggle."
Husband: "He's a loathsome, offensive, brute...yet I cannot look away."
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posted on
04/05/2006 8:55:06 AM PDT
by
sully777
(wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
To: sully777
I'm not a tremendous fan of Dali, though I still admire his work, and even his showmanship. I own a book by him on classical painting technique that is pretty good, even though filled with his own witticisms.
I much like that painting of the girl in the window...although dreamy, it hardly looks surreal. Am I missing something in it?
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posted on
04/05/2006 8:55:14 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Delicacy, precision, force)
To: Sam Cree
Am I missing something in it?
Dali couldn't do feet well
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posted on
04/05/2006 8:57:22 AM PDT
by
sully777
(wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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