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British spy shot dead in Ireland
CNN ^ | 4/4/06 | AP

Posted on 04/04/2006 12:57:14 PM PDT by elc

DUBLIN, Republic of Ireland (AP) -- A former senior official of Sinn Fein recently exposed as a British spy has been found fatally shot in northwest Ireland, police said Tuesday -- an act certain to send shock waves through Northern Ireland's peace process at a critical moment.

Denis Donaldson, Sinn Fein's former legislative chief in the failed power-sharing government of Northern Ireland, admitted in December he had been on the payroll of the British secret service and the province's anti-terrorist police for the previous two decades. He then went into hiding -- because the traditional Irish Republican Army punishment for informing is death.

The IRA quickly denied responsibility Tuesday evening.

Ireland's national police said it was not clear whether Donaldson, 55, had been killed or had taken his own life. Police said the scene around his body in Glenties, County Donegal, was cordoned off for a forensic examination that was expected to run into Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: criminalconspiracy; expionage; gwot; ira; iraaretraitors; ireland; irishtraitors; irishwaronterror; iwot; knewitwasdangerous; longlivetheorangemen; pira; riskybusiness; sedition; sinnfein; sinnfeinira; terrorism; treason; wot

1 posted on 04/04/2006 12:57:17 PM PDT by elc
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

My memory is a little fuzzy - didn't good ol' Gerry basically guarantee this guys safety after his "confession"?


2 posted on 04/04/2006 12:58:56 PM PDT by elc
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To: elc
"didn't good ol' Gerry basically guarantee this guys safety after his "confession"?"

If he did he shouldn't have... Since there's no way he could guarantee it.
3 posted on 04/04/2006 1:02:44 PM PDT by babygene
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To: elc
I hate to be so cynical but isn't the "act-certain-to-send-shock-waves-through-Northern-Ireland's-peace-process-at-a-critical-moment" phrase getting a little old?

The "peace process" always seems to be "at a critical moment...."

"Shockwaves" are always predicted....

I think some people, and I'm not sure which people, are making bloody sure that there is never a successful "peace process."

JMH "Irish-American" O.....
4 posted on 04/04/2006 1:07:26 PM PDT by hummingbird (Bloggers killed the MSM Star.)
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To: babygene
If he did he shouldn't have... Since there's no way he could guarantee it.

True that, babygene.
5 posted on 04/04/2006 1:08:23 PM PDT by hummingbird (Bloggers killed the MSM Star.)
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To: elc

I have no sympathy for Irish teror but what did this guy expect? Nobody likes the doublecross.


6 posted on 04/04/2006 1:10:20 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: elc
What did they expect when they got that wussy anti-gun metrosexual to be 007... wait, this is not about the movie?
7 posted on 04/04/2006 1:46:13 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: hummingbird

Ever see "The Boondock Saints"?
Don't screw with the Irish!
"And shepards we shall be, for thee my Lord, for thee."


8 posted on 04/04/2006 1:46:45 PM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: elc; Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; ...
My memory is a little fuzzy - didn't good ol' Gerry basically guarantee this guys safety after his "confession"?

Yes, he also denied IRA involvement in the Northern Bank robbery, and he also denied been a member of the IRA 'army' council!!

I'm just after watching RTE news - Adams and McGuinness are already spewing BS, I'll bet they'll start blaming the British 'Securicrats'!!

9 posted on 04/04/2006 1:48:12 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: chae
Don't screw with the Irish!

The IRA aren't Irish, they are terrorists and traitors (they are engeaged in a politico-criminal conspiracy against the Republic of Ireland)!!

10 posted on 04/04/2006 1:51:08 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
The IRA aren't Irish, they are terrorists and traitors (they are engeaged in a politico-criminal conspiracy against the Republic of Ireland)!!

And they supported anti-USA Latin American marxist terrorists.

11 posted on 04/04/2006 1:57:39 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Ooops!! I forgot that bit, and we forgot the whole Middle East thing too!!


12 posted on 04/04/2006 2:07:36 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

I'm sorry. I don't have alot of knowledge about the IRA. I just had a knee-jerk reaction at the words "English spy".


13 posted on 04/04/2006 2:11:54 PM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: chae

That's fine!!


14 posted on 04/04/2006 2:13:18 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
Maybe the peace loving IRA will offer to cap the knees of the murder(s) like they did for Robert McCarthy's. Even though they claimed nothing to do with his murder it's that honor amongst thieves thing they have going on.

Methinks the IRA needs a new public relations firm.

I_T, did you ping kellyira to this thread so he can continue harping about what a noble band of thugs the IRA pigs are?

15 posted on 04/04/2006 2:24:22 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
Maybe the peace loving IRA will offer to cap the knees of the murder(s) like they did for Robert McCarthy's. Even though they claimed nothing to do with his murder it's that honor amongst thieves thing they have going on.

I wouldn't rule it out!!

Methinks the IRA needs a new public relations firm.

I dunno, they seem to be good at fooling a lot of people!!

I_T, did you ping kellyira to this thread so he can continue harping about what a noble band of thugs the IRA pigs are?

No, he'll just say it's MI6 in colusion with the Loyalists, or something to that affect!! I suppose Paul C. Jackass will turn up saying; "Donaldson should have kept his mouth shut!"

16 posted on 04/04/2006 2:31:44 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Nobody likes the doublecross.

He doubled crossed the IRA - I really like that.

17 posted on 04/04/2006 2:34:02 PM PDT by Colosis (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK) IRA = Ragheads)
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To: Colosis
He doubled crossed the IRA - I really like that.

Hehe, I LOVE it!!

18 posted on 04/04/2006 2:37:30 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

I was under the impression that Gerry was Belfast Battalion Commander on Bloody Sunday.


19 posted on 04/04/2006 2:38:07 PM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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To: TEXASPROUD

Yes, and Martin McGuinness was the Derry Commander - both climbed the ranks since!


20 posted on 04/04/2006 2:41:17 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: chae

Yeah man I saw it. Cool film, reminds me of the time I spent at Uni in Boston. Great city...
Are you saying its a good thing the man was murdered for being a UK spy?
Thats a bit dodgy man...


21 posted on 04/04/2006 4:11:32 PM PDT by Lost Humanist
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To: elc

Glenties! That's getting very close to home for me!


22 posted on 04/04/2006 4:12:08 PM PDT by Youngblood
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Then you do have sympathy for a campaign of terrorism that lasted decades. You have sympathy for the terrorists who bombed my home town in the UK and killed a couple of little kids. Or that blew up whole blocks of Manchester in the 80's. Who tried to murder the UK's PM twice. Who attacked Canary Wharf etc etc...
The man has ended up giving his life to ensure a peace of sorts exists in Northern Ireland. And you castigate him for being a 'doublecross'? I would phrase your words carefully mate, cos for those who have suffered at the hand of IRA terrorism it isnt a subject to taken lightly or with any mirth.


23 posted on 04/04/2006 4:19:06 PM PDT by Lost Humanist (Beware lest you lose the Substance by grasping at the Shadow- Aesops)
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To: Youngblood

Yes, in our own country - the b@st@rds!


24 posted on 04/04/2006 4:38:33 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

He was informing on a terrorist group, I mourn his loss.


25 posted on 04/04/2006 4:40:27 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Lost Humanist

Sorry, all my IRA information I got from a couple friends at work, very proud of the fact that their family was involved in a big fight, (possibly bloody Sunday?) and another good friend likes that his grandparents had to flee Ireland because of something involving leaving before they got arrested back in the day.
Had a knee-jerk reaction to anyone spying on Ireland, until I remembered IRA=bad.


26 posted on 04/04/2006 5:42:40 PM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: elc
Ireland's national police said it was not clear whether Donaldson, 55, had been killed or had taken his own life.

Either way, hanging around Glenties, after having been exposed as an informer, was suicide.

27 posted on 04/04/2006 5:53:46 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: chae

Thats cool man. But your mates at work need a chat. There have been many 'big fights' during The Troubles, and to be proud of the idea that ones family were involved in an attack against British troops is very, very sad. The man wasn't spying against Ireland anyway. He was spying against the IRA which is something very different, unless they are considered the heart and soul of the emerald isle....


28 posted on 04/04/2006 6:11:40 PM PDT by Lost Humanist (Beware lest you lose the Substance by grasping at the Shadow- Aesops)
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To: Lost Humanist

Like I said before I don't agree with the IRA (their goals or methods). I was simply stating that it probably wasn't wise to publicly admit his spying and expect the IRA not to take action.


29 posted on 04/04/2006 9:05:10 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

What I'm wondering is why, if this man was really a spy for the British for so long, when his cover was blown he wasn't given a new identity somewhere outside of Ireland as has been done with other agents. Ever heard of Martin McGartland? He was in an IRA cell for years but when his cover was blown they got him out immediately. Donaldson was a fool to believe he'd escaped the nutting squad.


30 posted on 04/05/2006 8:04:42 PM PDT by slane
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To: slane

Yeah thats a good one. Who knows. One could say the British Security forces had nothing left to gain from him, so felt no need to help the man out.
Another could say, as has been suggested in the news, that the man was offered assistance, and he refused it. I think he may have just been tired with all of it, and didn't want to run anymore. I cannot fathom the pressure he was under, and the circumstances that found him in such a position. The man had it rough.
I will say that the media didnt do him any favours in 'outing' him, and they have to bear some responsibility in this.


31 posted on 04/05/2006 9:51:38 PM PDT by Lost Humanist
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To: slane; Lost Humanist

I guess he made a same mistake Veronica Guerin did - the Gardai also warned her that her life was in danger from the Dublin criminal gangs, but she laughed it off.


32 posted on 04/06/2006 2:13:41 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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