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Indiana Is Open for Business
National Review Online ^ | 3/28/06 | Bret Swanson

Posted on 04/05/2006 9:02:13 AM PDT by cicero's_son

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To: mysterio

I-69 will carry over $150 BILLION dollars in trade per year through Indiana.

In the real world, most people see that as a good thing. You know...jobs, economic development?

And this legislature did more to fight eminent domain abuse than any other legislature in Indiana history.

Anyway, you've obviously got some kind of personal axe to grind with Mitch--so feel free to have the last word.


21 posted on 04/05/2006 10:04:02 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son

Oh, and let's not forget his "non-liberal" push to increase "sin" taxes, just like every dem we've seen for the past 20 years. But I guess those don't count as tax increases, since he's a "republican."


22 posted on 04/05/2006 10:04:12 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Last I checked, Republicans and conservatives were for:

economic growth
reduced scope of government
strong 2nd amendment rights
restrictions on abortion
education reform
room for religion in the public sphere

Daniels has been a champion for all of the above.

Meanwhile, you can't stand him because he's making you change your clock 2x per year. What a crybaby.


23 posted on 04/05/2006 10:06:03 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son

The extension could have just as easily used upgraded existing roads, but the government was only for new terrain from day one. They even wasted our tax dollars on a fake "study committee" to make an informed decision that was already made before the committee ever met.


24 posted on 04/05/2006 10:07:18 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: 68skylark

Thanks, skylark.

I understand that a lot of people are nervous about all the change Daniels is pushing, but I think he will be vindicated in the end.

As for education reform, you heard it here first. That will be THE issue in 2007.

As a matter of fact, he tried to push through an education de-regulation/school choice bill already, but the Democrats and a few liberal Republicans killed it in the Senate.


25 posted on 04/05/2006 10:07:48 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son

The guy is a dud, and luckily, he's a one term dud.


26 posted on 04/05/2006 10:09:16 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

I get it.

You're an engineer. A road-building expert.

You know a lot more than the umpteen expert panels that have studied this issue for the last 40 years.

And so we should just trust you when you say "use existing roads" despite all the evidence that the upgrade would cost more and yield poor results.


27 posted on 04/05/2006 10:09:31 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: mysterio

I get it.

You're an engineer. A road-building expert.

You know a lot more than the umpteen expert panels that have studied this issue for the last 40 years.

And so we should just trust you when you say "use existing roads" despite all the evidence that the upgrade would cost more and yield poor results.


28 posted on 04/05/2006 10:09:41 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: mysterio
The guy is a dud, and luckily, he's a one term dud.

Just out of curiosity, which liberal Democrat will you be supporting in 2008 for Governor?

Bart Peterson? Pat Bauer? Jonathan Weinzapfel? Vi Simpson?

29 posted on 04/05/2006 10:11:04 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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The UPGRADE would cost more than building a new terrain road and stealing property from towns and landowers who are going to fight this thing for years to come? That's a real scream.


30 posted on 04/05/2006 10:12:00 AM PDT by mysterio
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Probably whoever the libertarians run.


31 posted on 04/05/2006 10:12:36 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Oh, btw, the route was selected even before Mitch came into office.

But you probably knew that, didn't you?


32 posted on 04/05/2006 10:13:21 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: mysterio
Probably whoever the libertarians run.

In other words the equivalent of a blank check to whatever Democrat is running.

I hope you examine your conscience between now and then over issues beyond DST (abortion, gay marriage, corruption, etc.).

If after doing that, you're still comfortable with Pat Bauer as speaker and "any Democrat" as Governor, then I guess there's nothing more we can say to each other.

33 posted on 04/05/2006 10:16:45 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: 68skylark
Too hard? I don't think so. I too didn't like his proposed tax increase. Funny, he never really offered to radically cut spending.

I think selling (technically leasing) off the toll road is questionable, and building a new terrain highway is bad bad move too. I mean they're complaing about the trouble they have keeping up existing roads, but then they go ahead and say lets build a new one? But hey, I guess its important to get the flow of illegals into this state as efficient as possible. They might have to spend an extra 15 ~ 20 minutes going a different route.

Oh, and our Double Daylight Saving Time (Or as I like to call it: Daniel's Stupidity Time) is pissing me off to no end as well.

34 posted on 04/05/2006 10:18:31 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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I don't think it'll be hard to re-elect Mitch. All that would have to be done is to point northward and say "see, up there (MI) is what happens if you elect a Democrat (Granholm)."

Of course we might get lucky and be rid of Jenny this year.


35 posted on 04/05/2006 10:22:23 AM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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Oh, btw, the route was selected even before Mitch came into office.

So, he couldn't have nixed it? Couldn't have said that it would be cheaper and more friendly to upgrade an existing route?

36 posted on 04/05/2006 10:23:09 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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As for education reform, you heard it here first. That will be THE issue in 2007.

Sounds wonderful.

This may be a tough and thankless task -- I'm really afraid that most Hoosiers just don't care that their public education system sucks. I'm stunned at the way DST gets everyone so worked up, but public education reform gets a yawn -- those are screwed-up priorities IMHO.

37 posted on 04/05/2006 10:23:35 AM PDT by 68skylark
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I'm stunned at the way DST gets everyone so worked up, but public education reform gets a yawn

DST was sold, got everyone worked up, by telling us that we were backwards and unenlightened, or unsophisticated, by not going to DST. Completely ignoring the fact that our being in the eastern timezone was based on politics and not geography.

Oh and I really liked Daniels argument that he couldn't attract business' to this state because we didn't change our clocks. I'm sorry, but if these supposedly intelligent people are not smart enough to figure out what time it is (we didn't exactly keep it a secret), then I'm not sure they're the type we want to attract to our state.

Since we are geographically located in the central timezone, but politically were in the eastern zone, we had a good compromize going there; esentially Central DST YEAR ROUND! (quite progressive of us, eh?) Eventually Congress will get around to mandating that, they've already expanded it starting in 07.

As for education, I guess we should brace ourselves for tax increases. I've never seen any so called education reform proposals that didn't require throwing money at it.

Ditch Daniels

38 posted on 04/05/2006 10:49:20 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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A lot of people get worked up over DST. I just don't understand the passion that this issue brings out.

To me, it's just not important -- I can think of a dozen issues that matter more.

39 posted on 04/05/2006 10:51:53 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
Well for me, I hate having to change over two dozen clocks, and even so, my body tells me they're wrong, as do the cues from the sun in the sky, and just when you get used to it, bang, change them back.

It's stupid, and I don't like the way it was rammed down our throats. I think it is indicitive of the thought process, and disregard Daniels has, and it will be a factor in other important issues as well. Indeed, as you say there were more pressing issues, but what was one of the first ones he went after? Education, tax reform...? Well okay, tax reform in the application of tax increases.

Say's a lot about the guy.

BTW: My first car was a 65Skylark.

40 posted on 04/05/2006 11:14:23 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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