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'Big-Mouth' Bin Laden Angered His Lieutenants
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 4-6-2006 | Francis Harris

Posted on 04/05/2006 6:14:57 PM PDT by blam

'Big-mouth' bin Laden angered his lieutenants

By Francis Harris in Washington
(Filed: 06/04/2006)

A senior lieutenant to Osama bin Laden has told US interrogators that the al-Qa'eda leader's big mouth was a security liability.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed also complained that the schemes bin Laden approved lacked destructive ambition.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

Court papers released in America also depict the world's most notorious terrorist group as riven by internal disputes and hobbled by favouritism.

The allegations have emerged from CIA interrogations of Mohammed, the Kuwaiti accused of masterminding the September 11 conspiracy. His comments were released as part of the evidence in the trial of the would-be suicide pilot Zacarias Moussaoui.

Mohammed, held in American custody at an unknown location since his capture in Pakistan three years ago, portrays himself as a brilliant terrorist manager.

Throughout the discussion, he is almost contemptuous of the wealthy bin Laden, who held the purse strings.

According to Mohammed, bin Laden lacked inspiration and vision. The Saudi failed to understand the basic security requirements of terrorist plots, such as keeping silent about impending attacks. Mohammed cites bin Laden's decision to inform a group of visitors to his Afghan headquarters that he was about to launch a major attack on American interests.

Then he told trainee terrorists at the al-Farooq training camp "to pray for the success of a major operation involving 20 martyrs".

Mohammed and a fellow terrorist manager, Mohammed Atef, who was later killed in an American air attack, were so concerned that they asked bin Laden to shut up.

The men "were concerned about this lack of discretion and urged bin Laden not to make additional comments about the plot". Mohammed has been credited with inventing the use of hijacked aircraft flown into buildings as a terror method. His review of the first World Trade Centre attack in 1993 convinced him that even the biggest truck bombs lacked destructive impact.

When he tried to convince bin Laden that they should hijack 10 passenger aircraft and crash them into American "targets" in 1996, the Saudi was dismissive.

Three years later, a less ambitious hijacking plot was approved by bin Laden. But he then caused endless problems to planners by insisting on picking members of the suicide crews himself - and several of them were ill-suited to the task of blending into American society.

Referring to two favoured terrorists assigned by bin Laden, Mohammed said that one spoke little English and the other no English.

"They barely knew how to function in US society. The only reason they were involved in the 9/11 plot was because they had visas and because bin Laden. . . wanted the two to go on the operation."

Although Mohammed's statements are the result of interrogation, his words tally with counter-terrorism experts' understanding of his relationship with bin Laden.

A former FBI agent who worked on al-Qa'eda cases said: "They couldn't stand each other. They both had huge egos." Mohammed also said that he had profound doubts about Moussaoui, another bin Laden favourite, who was judged eligible for execution by an American jury earlier this week.

Believing that Moussaoui was not a "suitable operative", Mohammed sought to have him expelled. Bin Laden intervened, sending Moussaoui for a terrorist refresher course and declaring him "reformed". Mohammed remained unconvinced.

That view was shared by at least one FBI agent, who said that, but for his agency's "criminal negligence", the arrest would have caused the plot to collapse.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; angered; big; bin; binladen; gwot; his; laden; lieutenants; mouth; obl; osama; terrorism; waronterror; wot

1 posted on 04/05/2006 6:14:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

One can only hope that they are as petty as described.


2 posted on 04/05/2006 6:19:13 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: blam

I guess even murdering terrorists like to complain and whine about the boss.


3 posted on 04/05/2006 6:20:30 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: blam

DURKA DURKA DURKA!

4 posted on 04/05/2006 6:21:18 PM PDT by FierceDraka ("Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." - Capt. Mal Reynolds)
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To: blam

If Khalid is so smart, why was he caught while Osama has not been?


5 posted on 04/05/2006 6:23:11 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: blam

But this can't be true. There are so many "authorities" out there who claim that 9/11 was the work of Bush or Zionists.


6 posted on 04/05/2006 6:23:11 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly
But this can't be true. There are so many "authorities" out there who claim that 9/11 was the work of Bush or Zionists.

You believe that?

7 posted on 04/05/2006 6:30:33 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: blam

From the first line: "the al-Qa'eda leader's big mouth WAS a security liability"

All the way through this article, Bin Laden is spoken of, in the PAST tense.

If he was still alive, wouldn't this guy be saying- the al-Qa'eda leader's big mouth IS a security liability?


8 posted on 04/05/2006 6:32:54 PM PDT by spoiler2
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To: Doe Eyes

"You believe that?"

Of course not. I should have included the sarcasm tag.


9 posted on 04/05/2006 6:35:16 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: johniegrad

I don't care. I want them dead. All of them.


10 posted on 04/05/2006 6:35:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Cap Huff; Coop; Southack

I guess Binny isn't as loved by the foot soldiers as we were lead to believe.


11 posted on 04/05/2006 6:35:43 PM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: 1rudeboy

I hear you...:-)


12 posted on 04/05/2006 6:36:08 PM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: blam

This doesnt surprise me.

Bin Laden is just a charismatic figurehead IMHO
A richboy looking for meaning in life.

Zawahiri and the other nutters are to be feared.
Bin Laden was a "choir boy" according to them.
Lets never lose sight of "them"


13 posted on 04/05/2006 6:37:15 PM PDT by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: blam

Don't want to sink any ships from loose lips here, but is anyone else suspicious of the insults being hurled toward the two most infamous terrorist leaders this week? Hmmmmm....


14 posted on 04/05/2006 6:39:22 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: old-ager

How do you catch a corpse?


15 posted on 04/05/2006 6:40:00 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: old-ager
If Khalid is so smart, why was he caught while Osama has not been?

Good point. And those two 9/11 scum who he disapproved of because they "barely knew how to function in US society" weren't caught either, while KSM's star pupil, Jose Padilla, stepped off a plane in the US right into the arms of the Feds.

16 posted on 04/05/2006 6:43:24 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: blam
Isn't this the storyline to Office Space?
17 posted on 04/05/2006 6:47:18 PM PDT by fat city ("Journalists are sloppy, lazy and on expense account")
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To: fat city

18 posted on 04/05/2006 6:58:49 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: blam

No doubt these clowns are incompetant. Sad thing is that our government is worse. Political Correctness kills.


19 posted on 04/05/2006 7:00:44 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.)
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To: blam
Doesn't anyone else notice what is obvious to me?

If OBL was such a big mouth why didn't we hear about his plan for 9/11 before it happened?

20 posted on 04/05/2006 7:01:39 PM PDT by manwiththehands (I will remember in November.)
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To: manwiththehands
"If OBL was such a big mouth why didn't we hear about his plan for 9/11 before it happened?"

Wasn't some FBI guy out west screaming his head off before this happened? I think I heard/read that he raised the flag on this about 70 times.

21 posted on 04/05/2006 7:19:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
That view was shared by at least one FBI agent, who said that, but for his agency's Jamie Gorelick's Wall, which was "criminal negligence", the arrest would have caused the plot to collapse.

Fixed!

22 posted on 04/05/2006 7:23:43 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: blam
Wasn't some FBI guy out west screaming his head off before this happened?

He ran into Jamie Gorelick's wall.

23 posted on 04/05/2006 7:25:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: blam
Bears repeating: "That view was shared by at least one FBI agent, who said that, but for his agency's 'criminal negligence', the arrest would have caused the plot to collapse."
24 posted on 04/05/2006 7:40:24 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If McKinney gets a free slap, then we all should get a free slap)
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To: blam
after they get whatever they think they can get out of people like this ,they should load them into C-130's , fly them far out over the Indian Ocean and kick them out the back door.
25 posted on 04/05/2006 7:43:16 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: blam
They couldn't stand each other. They both had huge egos."

Sounds like they need a retreat from the stress of jihad!
26 posted on 04/05/2006 7:56:35 PM PDT by texas_mrs (Immigrants made this country great - Illegal immigrants are now destroying it)
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To: blam
Image hosted by Photobucket.com the shaikh not looking to sheik here though is he...

27 posted on 04/05/2006 8:16:14 PM PDT by Chode (1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT. American Hedonist ©®)
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To: blam

Mohammed has been credited with inventing the use of hijacked aircraft flown into buildings as a terror method.

Sorry, as far as I can tell Richard Bachman did in the short story The Running Man.


28 posted on 04/05/2006 8:59:22 PM PDT by hootiebird
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To: Chode
"the shaikh not looking to sheik here though is he..."
Someone has got to match Helen Thomas up with this guy. Their a perfect match.
29 posted on 04/05/2006 9:20:42 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: mylife

The 9-11 Commission report said that Zawahiri opposed attacking the US because he knew that a war with the US would be disastrous for al Qaeda.


30 posted on 04/05/2006 9:47:07 PM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: hootiebird
"Sorry, as far as I can tell Richard Bachman did in the short story The Running Man."

It was also the plot in Tom Clancy's book, Debt Of Honor.

31 posted on 04/06/2006 1:28:42 AM PDT by blam
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To: Dog; ravingnutter; Straight Vermonter

ping


32 posted on 04/06/2006 4:30:27 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Wiz

This cracks me up....bad mouthing the boss AQ style.


33 posted on 04/06/2006 4:31:11 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Image hosted by Photobucket.com and the RATs thought panties on the head was torture, helen thomas... now THAT'S torture!!!
34 posted on 04/06/2006 2:42:12 PM PDT by Chode (1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT. American Hedonist ©®)
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To: old-ager

He's the operational guy which forces him to be outside the cave once in a while. It's tough to be in a cave and still run things.


35 posted on 04/06/2006 2:44:23 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: Chode

Time to make the donuts?


36 posted on 04/06/2006 2:51:14 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Chode

What is sad is she probably really has a kind heart, it just doesn't seem to show when interviewing Republican POTUS.


37 posted on 04/06/2006 3:40:03 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: blam
riven by internal disputes and hobbled by favouritism.

WELL DUH! They're islamists!

38 posted on 04/06/2006 3:42:44 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: jaydubya2
Image hosted by Photobucket.com no sh!t... it's him with a little more hair!!! 8^)
39 posted on 04/06/2006 3:56:56 PM PDT by Chode (1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT. American Hedonist ©®)
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