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March 2001 Document: Saddam Regime Recruits Suicide Terrorists to Hit US Interests (Translation
Pentagon/FMSO Iraq Pre-War documents ^ | April 5 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 04/05/2006 7:38:07 PM PDT by jveritas

Edited on 04/06/2006 2:06:44 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: abner

I'm new here as far as being registered, lurked about a year. Don't have any answer to solve your questions.

Have been writing my elected people for 8 or 9 years with little and mostly no luck. This state is liberal and probably won't change real soon.

I'm going to keep doing it though. I thought I could probably do it better being here at FR. The very FReepers on this thread tonight are very inspiring people. The support is tremendous.

The time and effort that jveritas alone has put in is amazing. The doc tonight wasn't 2 hours translated and was being sent to talk shows, papers and I don't know where all.

I guess it's just going to be one small step at a time but I'm going to keep taking those steps and I think most everyone on this thread is going to do the same thing.

I'm not much of one to give pep talks but I guess that's what this is. IMO, the MSM isn't going to be able to ignore this forever and I want to see the looks on their faces when they have to start reporting. And I want to know that I might have had some little part of it.


201 posted on 04/05/2006 10:23:04 PM PDT by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: jveritas
Just to add some perspective; at the start of the war 70% of America thought Saddam was involved in 9/11. They want to believe Saddam was a terror supporter. They want to believe our troops took out a threat to the United States.

Even if the media pooh-pooh these documents, just getting them mentioned is vital. If the claims of "media bias" continue to rain down on them, they will have to offer at least the appearance of being fair. They will have to cover them.

202 posted on 04/05/2006 10:25:59 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: mattdono

I'm curious if the Left tried the same tactics to discredit the Verona papers a decade ago. Those documents busted wide open some of their pets ideals.


203 posted on 04/05/2006 10:28:50 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: jveritas; Tony Snow

Ping a ling a ding dong!

Thank you so much for posting this! Post more! Post More!

:)


204 posted on 04/05/2006 10:29:16 PM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: MNJohnnie; abner

I'm not much good at putting stuff in words but you just said most all of it, IMO.


205 posted on 04/05/2006 10:31:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: jazusamo; MNJohnnie; Dilbert56

Hear, hear!

Right now I feel like the Unsinkable Molly Brown! Don't try to burst my bubble! ;^) I'm on a roll, baby!


206 posted on 04/05/2006 10:37:51 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Howlin; jveritas

Thanks! I emailed it out to everyone I know plus I sent it to Debra Burlingame.


207 posted on 04/05/2006 10:40:52 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: Howlin; jveritas
Never have I doubted Saddam's desire to attack the United States or our interests overseas. The first Gulf War never ended for him and he knew that his only option was to use unconventional warfare. And, with or without WMD, I think this is the risk that the Bush administration was no longer willing to live with.

Thank jveritas for the great work, I hope many more such discoveries are forthcoming.
208 posted on 04/05/2006 10:56:22 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: jveritas

I hope you are getting some sort of compensation for this - great work!


209 posted on 04/05/2006 11:10:48 PM PDT by al_again
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To: jveritas
Awesome. Awesome work. Here is a list of the 911 hijacker names along with 911 'Candidate' hijackers name. Seems real odd that so many came from Saudi. Dont know what the Commission report meant by 'Candidate' hijacker.

Name List Extracted from 911 Commission Report Table of Names

911 Hijackers

Marwan al Shehhi Emirati; 9/11 pilot/hijacker (UA 175)(deceased)

Fayez Banihammad Emirati; 9/11 hijacker (UA 175) (deceased)

Ahmed al Ghamdi Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (UA 175) (deceased)

Hamza al Ghamdi Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (UA 175) (deceased)

Mohand al Shehri Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (UA 175) (deceased)

Ziad Jarrah Lebanese; 9/11 pilot/hijacker (UA 93)(deceased)

Saeed al Ghamdi Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (UA 93) (deceased)

Ahmad al Haznawi Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (UA 93) (deceased)

Ahmed al Nami Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (UA 93) (deceased)

Hani Hanjour Saudi; 9/11 pilot/hijacker (AA 77) (deceased)

Nawaf al Hazmi Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (AA 77) (deceased)

Salem al Hazmi Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (AA 77) (deceased)

Khalid al Mihdhar Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (AA 77) (deceased)

Majed Moqed Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (AA 77) (deceased)

Mohamed Atta Egyptian; tactical leader of 9/11 plot; pilot/hijacker (AA 11) (deceased)

Abdul Aziz al Omari Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (AA 11) (deceased)

Wail al Shehri Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (AA 11) (deceased)

Waleed al Shehri Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (AA 11) (deceased)

Satam al Suqami Saudi; 9/11 hijacker (AA 11) (deceased)

Candidate 911 Hijackers

Ali Abd al Rahman al (a.k.a.Abu Bakr al Azdi) Saudi; candidate 9/11

Saeed al Baluchi Saudi; candidate 9/11 hijacker

Saeed (“Jihad”) al Saudi; candidate 9/11 hijacker

Mushabib al Hamlan Saudi; candidate 9/11 hijacker

Qutaybah al Najdi Saudi; candidate 9/11 hijacker

Saud al Rashid Saudi; candidate 9/11 hijacker

Abderraouf Jdey (a.k.a. Faruq al Tunisi) Tunisian/Canadian; candidate 9/11 hijacker

Mohamed al Kahtani Saudi; candidate 9/11 hijacker; currently in U.S.custody

Zuhair al Thubaiti Saudi; candidate 9/11 hijacker

Ramzi Yousef (a.k.a.Abdul Basit) Pakistani; convicted mastermind of and co-conspirator in 1993 WTC bombing and Manila air (Bojinka) plots Khalid Saeed Ahmad Saudi; candidate 9/11 hijacker al Zahrani

210 posted on 04/05/2006 11:12:29 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: jveritas

Thank you for the translations, your effort is large and we are thankful.


211 posted on 04/05/2006 11:25:35 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: jveritas

Bookmarked..WOW Thank You!


212 posted on 04/05/2006 11:35:00 PM PDT by MEG33 ( GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: jveritas

The last one was GOLD.

THIS one is PLATINUM, my FRiend.


God bless YOU!


213 posted on 04/06/2006 12:08:31 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: jveritas

PING


214 posted on 04/06/2006 12:09:17 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: dinasour; Bahbah; HonestConservative; TruthNtegrity

MNJohnnie is asking if someone can bring this up later on Tony's Thread today.


215 posted on 04/06/2006 12:42:21 AM PDT by saveliberty (I win I win I win :-)
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To: jveritas

WOW!!!

DOWN GOES FRASER! DOWN GOES FRASER! DOWN GOES FRASER!


216 posted on 04/06/2006 1:05:00 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Senator Allen on Democrats: "...let's enjoy knocking their soft teeth down their whiny throats.")
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To: jveritas; fanfan; Howlin

Wow! Thank you for posting this jveritas, and thank you, fanfan and Howlin, for the ping.


217 posted on 04/06/2006 1:12:45 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (Come on, Gary, act! (I finally saw Team America and am still laughing))
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To: SittinYonder
Tell the NY Times. Jason Blair.

The NY DNC Times can spare us their habit of hypocrisy. We know FULL well they would be all over this if it fed their little pathetic hate Bush bubble world at the Times. This is just a desperate, pathetic, childish rationalization clutched at by the Times to spike information proving Bush right, and the NY Times WRONG on Iraq.

Once again we see the only Adult more pathetically incapable of admitting error then a child, is a "Journalist".

218 posted on 04/06/2006 1:18:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Liberals don't care about minorities... they just pimp them.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

I can't open this one!!!

I have been 'fooling' around on my computer today - but still --

and besides I can open other pdf files --- do I have to download something again

I'm xp home


219 posted on 04/06/2006 1:20:01 AM PDT by malia (FLIGHT 93 HAS DONE MORE TO FIGHT TERRORISM THAN THE WHOLE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!)
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To: jveritas

Thank you jveritas.

We continue to hear the accusations all the time from the left that this is Bush's war, that Bush intended to take out Saddam even BEFORE 9/11.

If Bush had access to this intelligence, now we know why.


220 posted on 04/06/2006 1:23:28 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Dog

Don't forget to forward it to all the bloggers that you know. Sometimes it's the "small" blogs that have the biggest punch. Also email this info to all of your friends and relatives. Put a link on your blog to jveritas' blogsite!


221 posted on 04/06/2006 1:54:19 AM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (Join the chickenhawk express at www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com)
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To: jveritas

you are the new FR hero!


222 posted on 04/06/2006 2:45:47 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: jveritas
NYTimes, NPR, WAPost, LATimes??? Where are you? The silence is deafening.
223 posted on 04/06/2006 3:53:26 AM PDT by Drango (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: jveritas
4/3/2001 announced by the top secret letter 246 from the Command of the military sector of Zi Kar on 8/3/2001 announced to us by the top secret letter 154 from the Command of Ali Military Division on 10/3/2001

Just to make clear on the date format, that's DAY/MONTH/YEAR, right?

224 posted on 04/06/2006 3:58:45 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: jveritas
Jveritas -- Freeper of the Year!
225 posted on 04/06/2006 4:16:12 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: jveritas

ping for later readinng

jveritas - spectacular

who have you made aware of this so far?

Have you pinged Tony Snow?


226 posted on 04/06/2006 4:20:23 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Senator Shays ?

Shouldn't that be Rep Shays?

227 posted on 04/06/2006 5:07:49 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: OXENinFLA

Right!


228 posted on 04/06/2006 5:09:31 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas
Fantastic job!!!! WOW!
229 posted on 04/06/2006 5:10:10 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping! :-)


230 posted on 04/06/2006 5:10:47 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Of course and you know what? That hit me after I had already gone to bed and was almost asleep. Don't know what I was thinking. That's what I get for doing this stuff waaaay past my bedtime.
231 posted on 04/06/2006 5:11:06 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I had not seen this.

I encourage freepers to e-mail this to Fox, Rush, Laura, etc. It wouldn't hurt to copy off the translations and send copies to your senators either. Or e-mail; we just need to make sure our legislators see this and start talking about the translations.


232 posted on 04/06/2006 5:17:51 AM PDT by Peach
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To: prairiebreeze

Thanks for the ping. I'm trying to figure out how we can push to make sure the translations gain some traction in the press.


233 posted on 04/06/2006 5:18:24 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach; prairiebreeze; jveritas; Howlin
It's been picked up by some important blogs already:

April 06, 2006
Saddam recruited suicide terrorists to hit US interests

234 posted on 04/06/2006 5:24:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All; Peach; prairiebreeze; jveritas; Howlin
And here:

April 06, 2006
Saddam Targeted American Assets For Terrorism

******************AN EXCERPT *************************

One of the most contentious issues of the Iraq War is whether the invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein served as a distraction from the war on terror or as an integral part of the overall war itself. This is no mere academic question; the answer not only impacts the political future of those who supported and opposed the invasion, but also has real implications for the American resolve to stay in Iraq to see the effort through to completion.

A new document from the captured Iraqi files in Baghdad now appears to show that Saddam Hussein's regime not only had ties to al-Qaeda and financed terrorist efforts but also explicitly attempted to recruit people to attack American interests. According to Laurie Mylroie, page 6 of the document is a memo from the command of an Iraqi air force base asking for volunteers for suicide missions:

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Translation of document as provided by JV

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If this translation stands up to further scrutiny, it will provide a substantial answer to the question of Saddam's role in terrorism, both in general and specifically aimed at America. This memo will prove that Saddam had no intention of remaining neutralized in the region. He not only funded and encouraged terrorism, but he actively recruited terrorists from the ranks of his own military to carry out suicide attacks on American interests.

Obviously, the terror missions could not be conducted under the color of Iraqi military or get traced back to them, otherwise the American forces -- especially under George Bush -- would almost certainly attack Iraq with everything we could muster. Saddam would also not be able to rely on his clandestine partners on the Security Council to wield their vetoes, as even France and Russia would have to acknowledge the right of the US to defend itself once Saddam initiated this kind of attack. So how would he hide the nationality and identity of these volunteers? He would have to "launder" them through another organization, one that would not necessarily immediately point back to Iraq -- like al-Qaeda.

It's also interesting that the Iraqi air force asked for these volunteers. By April 2001, the 9/11 attackers had already been selected and the pilot training finished. It appears that Saddam may have had a similar operation in mind, but using already-trained pilots that could easily handle commercial jets for the purpose of crashing them into buildings. It has already been discovered that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed wanted to conduct another wave of suicide hijackings after 9/11 but stopped when security got tight. Could it be that KSM wasn't the one concerned about operational security -- and that Saddam himself pulled out of Phase II?

If this translation holds up, it provides answers and even more troubling questions about Saddam and his connections to terrorism targeted against us. It also shows what a dangerously dumb decision it was to leave Saddam in power and to fritter away a dozen years at the UN in a vain attempt to defang the viper.

Posted by Captain Ed at April 6, 2006 06:00 AM

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This is from the Captain's Quarters Blog and is a major Blog in the Conservative side of the BlogoSphere..................


235 posted on 04/06/2006 5:32:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

I really hope so.


236 posted on 04/06/2006 5:32:40 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Dilbert56

Agreed.


237 posted on 04/06/2006 5:33:33 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good news. We have got to find a way to push these until the MSM starts picking up the translations also. We really need some heavy duty activism.


238 posted on 04/06/2006 5:34:12 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Darkwolf377; Cap Huff; Dog; Coop; AdmSmith; jmc1969; Straight Vermonter; Wiz; Marine_Uncle; ...

Blogosphere is passing the story....see above....posts #234 & #235.


239 posted on 04/06/2006 5:34:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Calpernia

Bump!


240 posted on 04/06/2006 5:35:14 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; jveritas

Did I miss it? Shame on both blogs for not givin credit to the translator!


241 posted on 04/06/2006 5:36:02 AM PDT by Drango (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: jveritas

bump


242 posted on 04/06/2006 5:36:22 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Awesome Ernest!

Bump

Bump

Bump!


243 posted on 04/06/2006 5:37:06 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Danae

I will translate and post more and more :)


244 posted on 04/06/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Peach
Nah, let them sit on their hands,,,,,

If they sit long enough ....then the story will be ....why were they trying to hide the story?....

245 posted on 04/06/2006 5:37:48 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Our own Republicans need to use this information at least before election day or people will never hear what the press was hiding from them.


246 posted on 04/06/2006 5:39:10 AM PDT by Peach
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To: hipaatwo

Thank you very much for doing this. If I may ask who is Debra Burlingame?


247 posted on 04/06/2006 5:39:18 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Drango; jveritas

They are now treating JV as an official hard rock source...he has his own Blog....It's OK!


248 posted on 04/06/2006 5:39:43 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I know the feeling, I went to bed early last night and woke up very early...and said , no sense laying awake in bed, something likely is happening on FR......will catch up on my sleep latter.


249 posted on 04/06/2006 5:42:07 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: al_again
My duty for this great country is done for free. I am in eternal debt to this great USA and what I am doing is just a very small payback because I can never pay this debt no matter what I do.

God bless America.

250 posted on 04/06/2006 5:42:33 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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