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Water tank vandals a pair of whiz kids
The Boston Herald ^
| 04/07/2006
| Sara Withee
Posted on 04/07/2006 3:13:25 AM PDT by Panerai
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posted on
04/07/2006 3:13:27 AM PDT
by
Panerai
To: Panerai
This coffee, tastes weird.
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posted on
04/07/2006 3:18:36 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Doing the job Americans will do, paying the taxes illegals don't pay.)
To: Panerai
Great reporting; the story first says that they urinated in the water tank, then it says that they "relieved themselves" in the tank, and then that the water was tested for E. Coli and other harmful bacteria.
If they HAD only urinated in the tank, there would be no concern for E. Coli or other bacteria, since urine is sterile. They obviously defecated in the tank. Stoopid reporter....
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posted on
04/07/2006 3:24:50 AM PDT
by
Born Conservative
(Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
To: Born Conservative
"If they HAD only urinated in the tank, there would be no concern for E. Coli or other bacteria, since urine is sterile. "
Absolutely entirely FALSE! The number one cause of urinary tract infections is E. coli for which there is a really nasty drug-resistant strain running around the US. There are any number of other infections in the urinary tracts a people. Chlamydia Trachomatis (sexually transmitted) can be spread to the respiratory tract by ingestion. The list of infections that thrive in urine is incredibly long and would require several months of research just to find the bulk of know sources.
As an example:
J Infect. 1998 Mar;36(2):244-5. The nPCR detection of Chlamydia pneumoniae and Chlamydia trachomatis in children hospitalized for bronchiolitis.
Khan MA, Potter CW.
Department of Medical Microbiology, Medical School, University of Sheffield, U.K.
Nasopharyngeal aspirates from children admitted with the diagnosis of bronchiolitis, were screened for Chlamydia pneumoniae, and C. trachomatis. The nested PCR was found to be more sensitive that amplified the DNA extracts of up to two elementary bodies of the test strains. Using this technique, C. pneumoniae was detected in two (1.3%), and C. trachomatis in 26 17.1%) of the 152 samples tested. This study indicated C. pneumoniae infections to be unusual in children with bronchiolitis.
PMID: 8945706 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
To: HEY4QDEMS
"It does have a little wang in it."
-"Hollywood Knights" reference.
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posted on
04/07/2006 4:03:14 AM PDT
by
Hillarys Gate Cult
(The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
To: Panerai
Good thing they weren't terrorists putting poison into the water. I thought water supplies were supposed to be protected.
To: Panerai
If it was this easy for a couple punks to get into, what the heck does that say about keeping it safe from terrorists?
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posted on
04/07/2006 4:15:04 AM PDT
by
Ladysmith
((NRA, SAS))
To: kittymyrib
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posted on
04/07/2006 4:17:22 AM PDT
by
Ladysmith
((NRA, SAS))
To: Panerai
I know that pointing out a 15 year old boy did something stupid (as a former 15 year old boy, I have personal experience in this area) is redundant...
What were these kids thinking? Did they expect not to drink or eat anything with water and refrain from bathing until the tank had emptied of the water they contaminated? Its gross even for a 15 year old boy.
To: babyface00
Right you are! And in a perfect world no one has ever whizzed in the pool either.
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:48:50 AM PDT
by
newcthem
To: newcthem
I like your screen name - very creative.
To: Born Conservative
Not neccessarily! Part of the Standard water test is for e-coli. It is an indicator organism. Stands to reason that if someone has contaminated the water in any way, you run the full gamut of tests.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:22:54 AM PDT
by
rock58seg
(Republicans on ports,As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
To: kittymyrib
Do the math. 1.3 million gal tank. If they put in 1.5 gals of lets say poison, it would still only be 1 part per million.
By weight we are talking about 10,400,000 lbs. It would require a 10 pound sack of contaminant to equal 1 part per million.
Remember also that water is leaving and entering the tank at the same time further diluting the contaminant. It really is more difficult than one would think to effectively poison a large water supply.
That does not mean, These idiots should be taken lightly.
It does mean, however, that we should keep these "scares" in perspective.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:36:29 AM PDT
by
rock58seg
(Republicans on ports,As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
To: rock58seg; kittymyrib
I did the math, out of idle curiosity - I knew it would take "a lot", but I was kind of curious to see how much "a lot" would turn out to be ;)
Anyway, potassium cyanide is relatively cheap to make, highly toxic, and readily soluble in water. LD50 for KCN is 10 mg/kg, or thereabouts, so to make 1 8 oz. glass of water highly toxic, we want to shoot for 680 mg/glass, assuming a 150 pound (68 kg) person. To contaminate 1.3 million gallons to that extent - ignoring for a moment the issue you raise about dilution from water flowing into and out of the tank - would then require just over 14,000 kg of KCN, or about 15-1/2 tons of the stuff. Which is, to say the least, a little bit more than you're going to haul in a backpack. A really sophisticated attacker might try a biological agent rather than a chemical agent, but in that case, you're way beyond what someone can cook up in a basement lab.
To: MedicalMess
Absolutely entirely FALSE! The number one cause of urinary tract infections is E. coli for which there is a really nasty drug-resistant strain running around the US. There are any number of other infections in the urinary tracts a people. Chlamydia Trachomatis (sexually transmitted) can be spread to the respiratory tract by ingestion. The list of infections that thrive in urine is incredibly long and would require several months of research just to find the bulk of know sources. Whoa; calm down. Your assumption seems to be that the kids had UTI's. My point was that normally, urine is sterile. You wouldn't expect an adolescent male to have a UTI (not saying it can't happen, but it's very low on the probability list).
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:37:11 AM PDT
by
Born Conservative
(Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
To: rock58seg
Is the water kept in the tanks sterile? Is the water totally isolated from micro-organisms? Do your think that 300-400cc of urine in a 1.3 million gallon tank (even if the urine was infected), would contaminate the water supply?
There's probably more urine (on a percentage basis) in the public swimming pool than in this tank (and some people do inadvertantly swallow pool water). Aside from that, my original point is that it sounded as though they defecated in the tank; E. Coli is a common organism in feces and shouldn't normally be in urine.
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:42:51 AM PDT
by
Born Conservative
(Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
To: Panerai
Send them to Malaysia for a good caning.
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:46:08 AM PDT
by
Shanda
To: Panerai
Now if only they were Mexican, here illegally, they could walk off scott-free...
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:50:38 AM PDT
by
Bean Counter
(Hope Springs Eternal...)
To: Panerai
"It does have a little 'wang' to it."
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:52:25 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Great to see another Hollywood Knight's fan. Still one of the funniest movies ever.
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:53:08 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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