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Weld hopes to capture Libertarian Party line(Libertarian is not a bad word in my lexicon)
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| JOE MAHONEY
Posted on 04/07/2006 5:20:28 AM PDT by freepatriot32
ALBANY - GOP gubernatorial hopeful Bill Weld is sailing into uncharted waters in New York Republican politics: He's making a major run to line up the backing of the tiny Libertarian Party. Weld confirmed to the Daily News last night that he would "definitely be interested" in winning the Libertarian line
"'Libertarian' is not a bad word in my lexicon," he said, noting one of his favorite expressions is: "I want the government out of your pocketbook and out of your bedroom."
Asked about the party's opposition to the war on drugs, Weld said he'd back medical marijuana, but added, "I'm not for the decriminalization of drugs."
Because Republicans are outnumbered by Democrats in New York by a 5-3 ratio, GOP candidates covet a second ballot line.
Overwhelmingly, their partner has been the Conservative Party. But Weld's more conservative GOP rival, John Faso, has a virtual lock on the Conservative line
TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: albany; capture; gop; govwatch; hopes; libertarian; libertarians; line; newyork; party; to; weld
counting down the number of seconds before the repblibots come on here saying how he is just doing this so he can smoke dope and visit prositutes legally :-)
To: traviskicks
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:21:07 AM PDT
by
freepatriot32
(Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
To: freepatriot32
The LIBERALtarians are sideways rats who don't have the stomach or honesty to call themselves what they are.
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:23:50 AM PDT
by
jmaroneps37
(John Spencer is the warrior we have been waiting for.We can trust him with our future.)
To: freepatriot32
anti gun Weld is a what now????
he is the worst type of RINO.
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:24:38 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
To: freepatriot32
"but added, "I'm not for the decriminalization of drugs."
He is not a true believer. lol
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:28:01 AM PDT
by
verity
(The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
To: freepatriot32
When he ran here, I left the gov slot blank.
Pro pot, pro choice, and pro gun control, there was no way I would ever vote for him.
After winning, he invented the euphemism "fees" to replace "taxes". A real RINO piece of work.
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:35:28 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Doing the job Americans will do, paying the taxes illegals don't pay.)
To: freepatriot32
I'm not for the decriminalization of drugs." From the discussions with libertarians here, I expect he will be able to make up for it by defending porn.
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:35:57 AM PDT
by
madprof98
To: Vaquero
anti gun Weld is a what now???? he is the worst type of RINO. Libertarian William Weld was also the person who prosecuted so-called tax protestor, Richard Aitken. Richard Aitken was a fireman who was prosecuted for non filing by then U.S. Attorney, William Weld. Richard Aitken was convicted, then his conviction was reversed by the 1st court of appeals in Mass, then in the retrial (because Richard Aitken had already served jail time by then) Richard Aitken decided to plead nolo contendre because he was running out of money. The government had never accepted a nolo contendre plea before this in one of those tax protestor trial cases. Richard Aitken's plea was accepted however and he lives in Rockford, Mass., I believe.
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:36:35 AM PDT
by
Stepan12
To: jmaroneps37
The LIBERALtarians are sideways rats who don't have the stomach or honesty to call themselves what they are.Relax and smoke a joint, dude. /sarcasm
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:38:45 AM PDT
by
Stepan12
To: verity
I think the Republican Party is not quite where it ought to be on some issues. The party could stand some improvement.
I think the Libertarian Party holds some ideas which I consider "non-serious". I think Libertarians could modify their positions somewhat and become a credible political party.
I think the Democrat Party has gone off the deep-end and cannot be rescued.
I dream of a day when America has 2 political parties:
Republicans: Socially conservative, diplomatically strong, maybe too loose with money.
Libertarians: Guarding against intrusive government, diplomatically uninterested, conservative on fiscal matters.
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:39:45 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
To: jmaroneps37
"The LIBERALtarians are sideways rats who don't have the stomach or honesty to call themselves what they are."
I would argue just the opposite, that most of today's conservatives don't have the honesty to call themselves what they are; liberals. What conservative in his right mind could make a case for Social Security being viable in any form, have any Constitutional foundation at all? None, but it happens today. The conservative movement has been coopted by government money in the form of student grants and loans, SS, Medicare, corporate welfare, you name it. Any conservative that supports anything other than a Constitutionally limited government is a liberal, and unfortunately, I'd say that 70% of the conservative movement falls into that basket. And when it comes right down to it, what's worse, a "liberaltarian" on the fringe of politics, or a "conservative" who is in the belly of the beast?
To: freepatriot32
"Libertarianism is the heart and soul of conservatism."
- Ronald Reagan
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posted on
04/07/2006 5:57:54 AM PDT
by
NCPAC
I have been a long time conservative and am a very conservative Christian. Over the last few years however I have developed some very libertarian tendencies. Why the slow change?
1) Where have you gone Ronald Reagan? The Republican Party has abandoned the idea of smaller government, lower taxes and cutting spending. They have gone to Washington and become politicians
2) American is now a Socialist State and the Republicans do not seem to be concerned about it at all. Welfare, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Corporate welfare it just keeps getting worse and worse.
3) Drugs should be legalized I know this is a hard one to swallow for most conservatives but I encourage everyone to read the information at drugwarfacts.org especially the economics section. I want to see less drug use. The answer is legalization, prevention and treatment not throwing our money away on ineffective law enforcement. (As I get older I find myself aware of the slow erosion of our freedoms. I dont want people telling me what to do and I especially dont want the government telling people what they can or cannot do.) (How do you reconcile libertarianism with conservative Christianity? Easy. I want to be free to live and practice my religion the way I see fit. I do not want to see the government telling people how to live because what if the government decides that it does not like some of my behavior. What of the drug users, the prostitutes, the homosexuals? Leave them alone and let God deal with them as He sees fit. If I as an individual can change someones behavior, fine. The government needs to stay away.
4) I am a laissze-faire capitalist. Every time that the government interferes its bad news. The Republican party keeps moving farther and farther away.
Currently I feel like a man without a party. If only there was a Pro-life, strong national defense libertarianesque party, I would be a very happy man.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:28:25 AM PDT
by
ejroth
To: freepatriot32
Some Libertarian ideas are pretty good.
But I don't think their position on open borders is acceptable - ESPECIALLY today.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:38:11 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: jmaroneps37
No, not really, socialist RINOS like yourself just need to get over the fact that we don't like big government or regulation of private life.
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:17:56 AM PDT
by
Grebrook
To: Grebrook
""Libertarianism is the heart and soul of conservatism."
- Ronald Reagan"
So what? He was a Democrat once too. Does anyone in his/her right mind think Reagan would be in favor of no borders, no drug restrictions, and/or no laws against prostitution?
Just have the integrity to come out of the rat's closet and scream out who you really are. Liberaltarians never have been anything but hurt to Republicans and help to their masters the rat.
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:54:15 AM PDT
by
jmaroneps37
(John Spencer is the warrior we have been waiting for.We can trust him with our future.)
To: freepatriot32
Bill Weld and the Liberal-tarians == Perfect together.
Good riddance, Billy-boy.
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:55:21 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(I don't vote for liberals regardless of their party affiliation.)
To: Grebrook
No, not really, socialist RINOS like yourself just need to get over the fact that we don't like big government or regulation of private life.
But you're perfectly happy to use big government (i.e., the federal judiciary) to overturn locally established and implemented law.
Bunch of lying phonies.
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:58:59 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(I don't vote for liberals regardless of their party affiliation.)
To: ClearCase_guy
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posted on
04/07/2006 8:15:37 AM PDT
by
verity
(The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
To: Antoninus
Libertarian principles of small government and personal freedom are the heart of conservatism, as espouded by Reagan. Get over it. Without fiscal conservatives and libertarians the Republican party is nothing. We're the ones who make or break the party, and that's why the GOP is panicking because they know we're sick and tired of the deficit spending, the massive government expansion and invasion by the federal government into state matters.
Big government RINOS like you belong in the Democratic party. Feel free to join them anytime you like.
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posted on
04/07/2006 8:34:38 AM PDT
by
Grebrook
To: freepatriot32
Weld is a great libertarian. He should join their party ASAP!
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posted on
04/07/2006 9:42:11 AM PDT
by
Galveston Grl
(Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
To: Grebrook
Without fiscal conservatives and libertarians the Republican party is nothing.
The GOP simply can not win an election--any election--without support from social conservatives. They are the backbone of the party. And the increasingly imperious and intractable tone of the "moderate" wing of the party is causing a huge problem right now.
In New Jersey, we've seen an major increase in the amount of antipathy the GOP displays toward social conservatives. In 2001, the 'fiscal conservatives and libertarians' helped torpedo a brilliant true conservative (fiscal and social) candidate in Bret Schundler. Some of the typical RINOs publicly endorsed Jim McSleazy over Schundler. It was from that moment on that I decided that I will never again vote for a candidate who is not a social conservative. I'm far from the only one. The result is that we now have no Republicans in major state-wide offices.
And if you can find two libertarians who have the same platform on any 5 issues, let me know. Most of them have an ideology which conforms precisely to their own idiosyncratic vices--if they do it, they want it legalized. If they don't do it, they don't. It's the perfect political ideology for the 'me' generation.
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posted on
04/07/2006 9:52:11 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(I don't vote for liberals regardless of their party affiliation.)
To: freepatriot32; albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; Americanwolfsbrother; AlexandriaDuke; ...

Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
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posted on
04/07/2006 12:16:00 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
To: verity
"but added, "I'm not for the decriminalization of drugs." He is not a true believer. lol
He doesn't like guns. I'm sure he has your support.
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posted on
04/07/2006 12:21:29 PM PDT
by
jmc813
(I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
To: freepatriot32
A third party is going to pull a lot more votes this November.
Maybe it will wake up the other two liberal parties that have been running things into the ground.
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posted on
04/07/2006 1:21:53 PM PDT
by
Supernatural
(A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
To: jmaroneps37
The LIBERALtarians are sideways rats who don't have the stomach or honesty to call themselves what they are.
ROFL!
Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free.
.
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posted on
04/07/2006 3:23:45 PM PDT
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: ZULU
But I don't think their position on open borders is acceptable - ESPECIALLY today
LOL!
Republicans are in charge now. The borders are open now. Libertarians believe you can control immigration by curtailing services and employment to illegals. Republicans believe you can control immigration by granting amnesty every 20 years or so. I think the Libertarian way is more effective.
"Immigrants used to come to America seeking freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom from government. Now they come looking for free health care, free education, and a free lunch"...Harry Browne
.
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posted on
04/07/2006 3:31:45 PM PDT
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: jmaroneps37
So what? He was a Democrat once too.
The Libertarian movement converted Reagan from a Liberal to a Conservative.
Does anyone in his/her right mind think Reagan would be in favor of no borders
Reagan granted amnesty to illegals and left the border open.
no drug restrictions
"Of course Dad was for legalization. He wasn't crazy, he didn't want his kids in jail!"...Michael Reagan
no laws against prostitution?
Reagan was opposed to all nanny state laws. Prostitution is a local issue. If you want prostitution in your town, that is up to the voters in your town.
.
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posted on
04/07/2006 3:42:34 PM PDT
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: jmc813
Hey, young punk, my gun cabinet is quite full.
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posted on
04/07/2006 3:49:47 PM PDT
by
verity
(The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
Comment #30 Removed by Moderator
To: jmaroneps37
The LIBERALtarians are sideways rats who don't have the stomach or honesty to call themselves what they are. I wish you people would stop repeating this canard.
Libertarians and liberals are as different as night and day.
To: Antoninus
But you're perfectly happy to use big government (i.e., the federal judiciary) to overturn locally established and implemented law. Bunch of lying phonies.
Going to the courts may not be the most prudent measure, but I fail to see how it makes the libertarian a phony.
If a libertarian is opposed to government intervention in his life, and he uses the courts to reduce government intervention in his life, where is he being inconsistent? It's like calling the Founding Fathers a bunch of phonies because they wanted a limited government, but made each branch "powerful" enough to check each other.
It's not an infringement on your liberty if you are prevented from infringing on another's liberty. Libertarians are not anarchists, so why shouldn't they rely on government's LEGITIMATE purpose, the protection of liberty?
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posted on
10/16/2006 8:55:33 PM PDT
by
timm22
(Think critically)
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