Skip to comments.'Gospel of Judas' Called An Authentic Fabrication
Posted on 04/07/2006 6:38:55 AM PDT by presidio9
The National Geographic Society released the manuscript of what is called "The Gospel of Judas" yesterday. By National Geographic's own account, a team first assembled by the Maecenas Foundation has been working on the text since 2001. As a result of press releases tied to publication of the text, widespread coverage has repeated the claim that this is an authentic and unique representation of the historical relationship between Jesus and Judas, and that Jesus encouraged Judas to betray him.
Despite the careful work by scholars that has gone into a document of obvious interest, I have to express disappointment when I see National Geographic stoop so low into hyperbole as to distort the significance of this discovery.
In its release, National Geographic repeatedly states that it has "authenticated" the document. Several press outlets have simply repeated those claims. But "authentic" turns out to be a slippery term as used by the National Geographic Society. No scholar associated with the find argues this is a first century document, or that it derives from Judas. The release says the document was "copied down in Coptic probably around A.D. 300," although later that is changed to "let's say around the year 400." This amounts to saying that "The Gospel of Judas" is an authentic fabrication produced by a group of Gnostics in Egypt. Gnostics believed that their direct knowledge of heaven permitted them to understand what no one else knew, or could know by historical knowledge. For ancient Gnostics to believe in their own powers of divination is charming; for their flights of imagination to be passed off as historical knowledge in our time is dishonest or self-deceived.
During the second century, a theologian of the Catholic Church named Irenaeus referred to a writing named "The Gospel of Judas." Was that
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Gnosticism sounds similar to Christian Science belief.
Well, according to anyone who's ever done intensive work on the NT - be they Christian, Jewish, agnostic or what have you - all the NT documents except two absolutely date from the 1st century, and there is a good chance that the remaining two do date from the 1st century as well.
In addition to this unanimous scholarly opinion, there is the fact that early 2nd century writers (100-125 AD) reference the NT documents as if they were already well-known and established documents. Additionally there are substantial manuscripts of the NT existing from about the year 200 AD and fragments from before 125 AD, including a possible fragment from before 68 AD.
So the facts contradict you.
I was listening to a dj talk about this story this morning. The DJ said that the Judas Gospel dispels the story that Judas betrayed Christ of his own will, i.e. Christ asked Judas to drop the dime on him.
IIRC, Judas committed suicide the morning after he betrayed Christ. My question is this: When did Judas have time to write his Gospel if said Gospel includes events that took place only hours before his death?
Why is even FNC reporting the story as based on a true original rather than a fake copy.
The media should be screaming fromthe top.
I tend to think this is just an ancient version of the "Da Vinci Code"...or near equivalent.
Fiction has always been popular. ;)
Genuine ancient fiction. Written by Danus Brownus.
MY first thoughts also. Bet that was common for many of us here on this site.
Yes, yes, we have the new christian doctrine being heaved upon us....
Jesus did not rise from the dead, he was only sleepy, and after some herbs and a nice nap he awoke to proclaim "Look dude's I'm back from the dead!!"
Jesus did not walk on water. It was cold, he walked on ice.
Jesus was in cahoots with Judas to have him betray him. The kicker being he must have also told him to kil himself-- just to make the cover up more believeable.
You would be in the extreme minority on your view. Even most secular scholars who do not believe the NT holds any divine significance agree that most all the books of the NT were written in the 1st century.
So what's the date of the earliest surviving manuscript of the canonical Gospels?
It's probably the Times font that gave it away.
"After being discovered in Egypt in the 1970s, National Geographic's manuscript was badly damaged, perhaps as a result of repeated attempts by earlier owners to sell it (sometimes at a high price, which it never fetched). As late as last February, National Geographic reports, "a missing half-page of the gospel resurfaced in New York City." This does not inspire confidence in the chain of custody or the document itself..."
There are original fragments of Paul's writings?
And it came to pass that afterwards I didst receiveth a tidy sum of 30 pieces of silver for doing my Lord's bidding. But, yea I was consumeth by guilt for not having asketh more to aideth in the production of my original screenplay: Jesus Christ Superstar and thus find myself about to steppeth off a chair with a rope around my nec
Really good heresies never go away, they just sort of recycle as part of someone's latest revelation.